The Obama Boom.

[Arne]

How can somebody as stupid as this guy get into congress?

"the greater the national debt the greater the wealth of the nation"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjbPZ...dailypaul.com/

[92bDad]

Originally Posted by Arne

How can somebody as stupid as this guy get into congress?

"the greater the national debt the greater the wealth of the nation"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjbPZ...dailypaul.com/

That was a great link!!!

I checked out a few more of Jan's interviews...some good stuff.

I'm sure he or others have these types of interviews where they trip the interviewee up...regardless of ideological background.

This is a great example of how the media works and how they can spin a story, an interview, soundbites or anything else to say what they want them to say.

There is no doubt in my mind that CNN, FOXNews, MSNBC, and all other news outlets have there own agenda with what they are presenting to the people.

Imagine for a moment, if all the networks spent 8 years showing us Jan type interviews that made 'D' look like bafoons...while showing little of the bad interviews for any other party...I am willing to bet that the 'D' candidates around the nation would get voted out Unanomously...

The same can be said if an overwhelming majority of the media decided to portray "R" in a negative light, while being softball to the "D" party.

This link you gave is like looking at the media through a microscope and showing just how much power they have.

At the end of the day, I doubt seriously that any of us on this board are truly informed when it comes to our government, the officials we elect, the policies that effect each and everyone of us.


I would love to see an election where we NEVER SEE or HEAR The candidate, but rather...we can read about how the candidates voted on bills and the reasons they voted the way they did.

I don't want to kno if they are D or R or something else. I don't want to know their name. I don't want to see them or hear them...I just want to know the facts about how they vote, and the reason they voted the way they did...or if they didn't vote the reason they chose not to vote.

I don't want to know if they are Christian or not, I don't want to know if they are Man or Woman...Gay or Straight...nor do I want to know what their cultural heritage is or was.

I simply want to know who the political decisions they have made in their various positions that they have worked in.

This woudl eliminate Rhetoric, this would eliminate race, gender, faith...basically it would bring it down to the individual and how they vote on the job.

I would think that a voting record would be THE most important qualification of politicians, yet it appears to be the least reviewed item.

Today is more about rhetoric and social affiliation than it is about the job itself.

I'm willing to bet that many of us on this board who passionately disagree with what we see, would actually vote for the same candidate if we only knew them as a number and how they voted.

[dude1394]

This may belong in the hope and change thread..but this one's going to be going for much longer I fear.

The Conference Board said its consumer confidence index, which stood at about 37 last month, plummeted to 25 in February, easily the worst ever. The index has been published since 1967 and just a year ago stood at 76.

Even in an abysmal economy, the dive in confidence was stunning. Economists say people's increasing worries about job cuts and their dwindling net worth could lead to even further cutbacks in spending.

"This reflects the catastrophic collapse of confidence in the economy - in the stock market, in the banking system and to some extent with the elected officials," said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist at the Economic Outlook Group.

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by Arne

How can somebody as stupid as this guy get into congress?

"the greater the national debt the greater the wealth of the nation"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjbPZ...dailypaul.com/

wow.

[dude1394]

The Obama Boom....A Tax Boom and a Deficit Boom...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...-budget-a.html

Obama's Budget: Almost $1 Trillion in New Taxes Over Next 10 yrs, Starting 2011

February 26, 2009 12:00 PM

President Obama's budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals.

1) On people making more than $250,000.

$338 billion - Bush tax cuts expire
$179 billlion - eliminate itemized deduction
$118 billion - capital gains tax hike

Total: $636 billion/10 years

2) Businesses:

$17 billion - Reinstate Superfund taxes
$24 billion - tax carried-interest as income
$5 billion - codify "economic substance doctrine"
$61 billion - repeal LIFO
$210 billion - international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform
$4 billion - information reporting for rental payments
$5.3 billion - excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas
$3.4 billion - repeal expensing of tangible drilling costs
$62 million - repeal deduction for tertiary injectants
$49 million - repeal passive loss exception for working interests in oil and natural gas properties
$13 billion - repeal manufacturing tax deduction for oil and natural gas companies
$1 billion - increase to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers
$882 million - eliminate advanced earned income tax credit

Total: $353 billion/10 years

[Mavdog]

Originally Posted by dude1394

The Obama Boom....A Tax Boom and a Deficit Boom...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...-budget-a.html

looking at this list, the word "repeal" appears over and over.

the plan takes away many special interest tax concessions, as well as restoring the prior tax rates on those married households with incomes greater than $250,000. a more fair tax structure imo.

the list doesn't mention the tax relief being given to middle income households either.....or the tax relief to businesses who invest in our country.

[dude1394]

A truly astounding "achievement". A comment on theOne's budget.

In 32 days, Barack Obama has contributed to the debt nearly half of what the George Bush did in 8 years. The debt went up $4.3 trillion under Bush in 8 years. Obama has contributed nearly $2 trillion in 32 days. And if you add in Obama's health care government takeover, a $650 billion down payment over ten years as he calls it, that would contribute another $65 billion (on average) to the deficit this year.

Bush was poor at holding the line on spending. Obama is thousand times worse. Just who is going to pay for all this? And it's not the upper 2% of the income earners. Obama could take all the upper 2%'s income and their assets, and it wouldn't even put a dent in the deficit.

[dude1394]

Taxes...deficits...and energy prices...oh my..

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/carbon-rules-boost-gasoline-electricity/story.aspx?guid={6ADB4BD2-CCAC-4E44-9404-72A7452DD600}&dist=morenews

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Carbon dioxide emissions will draw a price of about $13.70 a ton based on President Barack Obama's proposed federal carbon cap included in his budget proposal, Point Carbon Managing Director Veronique Bugnion said Friday. A carbon price of $13 per ton would produce an increase in the cost of gasoline of 12 cents per gallon, a 6% increase over current retail gasoline prices. A 6.8% increase for average retail electricity rates is also projected, though Bugnion added that more coal heavy regions might see higher increases. Some of the increase might be offset by new renewable energy construction under renewable electricity standard proposals in the House and Senate, Point Carbon noted. End of Story

[dude1394]

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