12-24-2012, 05:42 PM
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Cuban's AMA on Reddit
Light x-mas eve reading - not much at all on the Mavs, but still amusing.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...his_is_my_ama/
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RT @TyLawson3 Good game between Dallas and Portland. Good thing we didn't end up getting Dallas. Coach Karl lost his mind.
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12-25-2012, 10:16 AM
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Of course it isn't much Mavs. He doesn't put the same zeal into the Mavs as he once did. He is becoming Sterlingesque.
That is what Stern doesn't care about. Only LA and NY can continue to spend forever. Every other team has to make hard decisions regarding their salary cap obligations. It's why Harden was traded. It was why Asik was released. etc.
SA will drop as soon as Duncan retires. OKC got lucky and got Westbrook and Durant, but that team better win within 2 years or they will be gone. Memphis has a year or two window before the salary wheels come off.....
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12-25-2012, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bayliss
Of course it isn't much Mavs. He doesn't put the same zeal into the Mavs as he once did. He is becoming Sterlingesque.
That is what Stern doesn't care about. Only LA and NY can continue to spend forever. Every other team has to make hard decisions regarding their salary cap obligations. It's why Harden was traded. It was why Asik was released. etc.
SA will drop as soon as Duncan retires. OKC got lucky and got Westbrook and Durant, but that team better win within 2 years or they will be gone. Memphis has a year or two window before the salary wheels come off.....
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I agree that he seems to have chilled out a bit as an owner, and he clearly has other interests now as well. But he's never seemed like the person that could sit still with a single project. But he's still likely the most intensely connected and involved owners in the league, front row at every game and deeply invested in everything the team does, and I think we are starting to take it for granted.
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RT @TyLawson3 Good game between Dallas and Portland. Good thing we didn't end up getting Dallas. Coach Karl lost his mind.
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12-25-2012, 12:03 PM
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"Front row at every game" hurt us more than it helped. And last time i checked star players love to trash talk with Cuban, but they do not really want to play for him. They prefer a quiet owner with a big pocket instead of Cuban and his big mouth...
Last edited by markus1234; 12-25-2012 at 12:04 PM.
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12-25-2012, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by markus1234
"Front row at every game" hurt us more than it helped. And last time i checked star players love to trash talk with Cuban, but they do not really want to play for him. They prefer a quiet owner with a big pocket instead of Cuban and his big mouth...
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Wow...
Just, just stop posting!
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12-25-2012, 12:47 PM
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Last edited by markus1234; 12-25-2012 at 12:50 PM.
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12-25-2012, 01:36 PM
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http://www.13moon.com/prophecy%20page.htm
http://mayankin.com/blog/
Tons of people see it like that.
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12-25-2012, 01:47 PM
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Ton of people = 2 links!
Ok, i can give you 2 links of anything!
All i know is, that he is known as the best owner and that most player do want to play for him!
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12-25-2012, 02:20 PM
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Here is an other nice one....
http://juniormiller1310.blogspot.de/...1_archive.html
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The Mavericks Season to Forget
I won't beat a dead horse--we all know that the Mavs 2010-11 season was, at best, a limp defense of their magically-won title. I did find two Bill Simmons entries on Grantland.com quite entertaining, regarding the Mavs half-hearted effort to go back-to-back. The first is dialogue between Cuban and Dirk before the start of the season:
"OK, Dirk, here's the plan."
"I'm listening."
"We're throwing away our title defense. We're just going to put it in a Dumpster and smear it with dog feces. By the end of the regular season, Delonte West will be our third-best player, we'll be relying on an overweight Vince Carter, we'll have turned Tyson Chandler into a three-headed dose of mediocrity called Brendian Haywonimight, and unless Jason Terry is feeling it, you'll have to shoot every single time in the fourth quarter of every playoff game."
"Got it."
"We might win one game against Oklahoma City, that's it. Then you'll have the spring and summer off."
"Sounds good. One question: Why would we do this?"
"Because we want to sign Deron Williams this summer. This was the only way."
"Deron Williams … the guy who acted like such a dick in Utah that they flipped him into two top-three lottery picks and never looked back and since then he's been playing for a lottery team?"
"Yeah, that Deron Williams. Also, we have a 2.2 percent chance of getting Dwight Howard, too."
"Dwight Howard … the guy who's three months away from quitting on his team and needs season-ending back surgery?"
"Seriously? That's going to happen? How do you know this?"
"I just do."
"Crap."
"Any chance we can come up with another plan?"
(Dead silence.)
The second was this postseason award the Mavs received from Simmons:
The Another 48 Hrs. Award for "Worst Title Defense"
Two schools of thought: (a) the only thing that matters is winning a title, and (b) part of winning a title is defending that title. I believe the latter, which is why I remain lukewarm on the '83 Sixers as an All-Time Greatest Team (they got bounced the following year in a humiliating Round 1 loss to New Jersey), and why I love the '86 Celtics so much (they were banged up the following spring and could have rolled over, but they didn't). Dallas's willingness to toss away their title defense for cap space (and the "chance" at Dwight Howard and Deron Williams) always seemed a little too clever, as well as a massive underestimation of everything Chandler did on and off the court.1
What rarely gets mentioned here: Had they convinced Chandler to take a little less to stay, they could have pursued Deron Williams this summer (with Dirk and Chandler as the bait) and maybe even used Chandler as trade bait for a sign-and-trade for Howard (either in February or this summer, which wouldn't have been any more callous than how they treated Chandler, anyway). And they could have actually defended their title.
Here's where a Mavs fan might say, "I don't care, we won the title." Yeah, but you also won the "One of the Worst Title Defenses Ever" title. In the Shot Clock Era, only two defending champs missed the playoffs: the '99 Bulls (no MJ or Pippen) and '70 Celtics (no Russell or Sam Jones), but since both teams were rebuilding, you can't totally blame them. Four other defending champs were bounced in Round 1: the 1981 Lakers (lost a best-of-three miniseries to Moses Malone's Rockets), 1984 Sixers (lost a five-gamer to Micheal Ray's Nets), 2007 Heat (swept by Chicago) and 2012 Mavs (swept by Oklahoma City). That's a short list. The Mavs outsmarted themselves; heck, they couldn't even complain about Lamar Odom as he stole money from them for four straight months, because Odom's agent (Jeff Schwartz) represents Williams as well.
And by the way … why are we so convinced that NBA free agents are so desperate to play in Dallas again? Because they want to play with Nowitzki … who's about to turn 34 and cross the 45,000-minute career barrier? Because they want to play for Cuban … who didn't take care of Nash in 2004 or Chandler in 2011 when both guys wanted to stay? You don't think players around the league noticed how Cuban handled Chandler's situation? Even if we've learned not to count out Cubes (especially when things look bleak), I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't grab a do-over for the last 11 months.
Cuban's decision to play for free agency was a big gamble. It may pay off, it may not. In fact, the Cuban decision and the upcoming Rangers decision on what to do with Josh Hamilton are two of the biggest risk/reward decisions that any club in this town has ever had to face. Could be very fun to follow, or very disappointing, depending on the outcome of each.
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12-25-2012, 03:02 PM
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Other star players trash Cuban? Who cares?
Dirk is the only star player to play under Cuban. He's the only star player in the league with a valuable opinion on the subject.
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12-25-2012, 04:31 PM
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If dirk signed off on this "plan" then it's a good thing he has holger as an advisor.
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