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Alonzo Mourning
I know I will get flame for this.
Yes, he's old, but he's an unrestricted FA. He is still servicable for 20 mins/game. He is still very good as a defender/block shot/rebounder. He proved that during the finals. We could offer him the MLE. |
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06-30-2006, 10:05 PM
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complete FA list
Atlanta Hawks Restricted: Anthony Grundy, Royal Ivey (T), Donta Smith (T) Unrestricted: Al Harrington Limited Salary Protection: Esteban Batista (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to $150,000 if not waived before 7/15/06; to $250,000 if not waived before 8/15/06) Boston Celtics Restricted: None Unrestricted: Michael Olowokandi Limited Salary Protection: Ryan Gomes ($300,000 salary protection for 06-07 if waived before 7/1/06, thereafter protection is full), Orien Greene (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to $100,000 if not waived before 7/1/06; to $200,000 if not waived before 8/2/06) Charlotte Bobcats Restricted: Melvin Ely, Bernard Robinson Unrestricted: Lonny Baxter, Kevin Burleson, Jumaine Jones, Jake Voskuhl Limited Salary Protection: None Chicago Bulls Restricted: Luke Schenscher, Darius Songaila Unrestricted: Randy Livingston, Jannero Pargo, Eric Piatkowski Limited Salary Protection: Eddie Basden (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if on opening day roster for the 06-07 regular season), Othella Harrington (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 7/16/06) Cleveland Cavaliers Restricted: Drew Gooden Unrestricted: Alan Henderson, Ronald "Flip" Murray Limited Salary Protection: Stephen Graham (no salary protection for 06-07) Dallas Mavericks Restricted: DJ Mbenga Unrestricted: Darrell Armstrong, Jason Terry, Keith Van Horn Limited Salary Protection: Rawle Marshall (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 8/8/06), Josh Powell (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 10/2/06) Denver Nuggets Restricted: Francisco Elson, Nenê Hilario Unrestricted: Greg Buckner, Howard Eisley, Reggie Evans, DerMarr Johnson Limited Salary Protection: None Detroit Pistons Restricted: Alex Acker Unrestricted: Kelvin Cato, Tony Delk, Lindsey Hunter, Ben Wallace Limited Salary Protection: None Golden State Warriors Restricted: None Unrestricted: Calbert Cheaney Limited Salary Protection: Will Bynum (no salary protection for 06-07 if waived before 7/17/06, thereafter protection is full) Houston Rockets Restricted: Keith Bogans, Maciej Lampe (T) Unrestricted: Ryan Bowen (P), Rick Brunson, Richie Frahm, David Wesley Limited Salary Protection: None Indiana Pacers Restricted: Fred Jones Unrestricted: Eddie Gill, Scot Pollard, Peja Stojakovic Limited Salary Protection: None Los Angeles Clippers Restricted: Boniface N'Dong Unrestricted: Vin Baker, Sam Cassell, Walter McCarty, Vladimir Radmanovic Limited Salary Protection: Daniel Ewing ($200,000 salary protection for 06-07 if waived before 8/2/06, thereafter protection is full), James Singleton ($50,000 salary protection for 06-07 if waived before 7/1/06, thereafter protection is full) Los Angeles Lakers Restricted: Devin Green Unrestricted: Devean George, Jim Jackson Limited Salary Protection: Smush Parker (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived on or before the day prior to the start of the 06-07 season), Ronny Turiaf ($50,000 salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to $100,000 if not waived on or before the day prior to the start of the 06-07 season), Von Wafer (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived on or before the day prior to the start of the 06-07 season) Memphis Grizzlies Restricted: Antonio Burks Unrestricted: Chucky Atkins, Bobby Jackson, Lorenzen Wright Limited Salary Protection: Anthony Roberson (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 8/1/06), Lawrence Roberts (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 8/2/06) Miami Heat Restricted: None Unrestricted: Shandon Anderson, Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton, James Posey (P) Limited Salary Protection: Earl Barron (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 7/29/06), Jason Kapono (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 7/1/06) Milwaukee Bucks Restricted: Jiri Welsch Unrestricted: Reece Gaines, Ervin Johnson, Jermaine Jackson, Toni Kukoc Limited Salary Protection: None Minnesota Timberwolves Restricted: Ronald Dupree, Justin Reed, Bracey Wright (T) Unrestricted: Marcus Banks, Anthony Carter Limited Salary Protection: None New Jersey Nets Restricted: None Unrestricted: Lamond Murray, Cliff Robinson, John Thomas, Jacque Vaughn Limited Salary Protection: Scott Padgett ($450,000 salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 7/1/06) New Orleans Hornets Restricted: None Unrestricted: Rasual Butler, Speedy Claxton, Marcus Fizer, Marc Jackson (ETO), Aaron Williams Limited Salary Protection: Linton Johnson (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 7/1/06), Moochie Norris (no salary protection for 06-07) New York Knicks Restricted: Jackie Butler Unrestricted: Maurice Taylor (ETO), Qyntel Woods Limited Salary Protection: Ime Udoka (no salary protection for 06-07) Orlando Magic Restricted: Trevor Ariza, Mario Kasun Unrestricted: Stacey Augmon, Bo Outlaw, DeShawn Stevenson Limited Salary Protection: Travis Diener (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to $50,000 if not waived before 7/8/06; to $125,000 if not waived before 8/1/06) Philadelphia 76ers Restricted: Willie Green, Shavlik Randolph, John Salmons Unrestricted: Matt Barnes, Michael Bradley, Chris Webber (ETO) Limited Salary Protection: None Phoenix Suns Restricted: None Unrestricted: Eddie House (P), Tim Thomas, Dijon Thompson Limited Salary Protection: Nikoloz Tskitishvili (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 8/1/06) Portland Trail Blazers Restricted: None Unrestricted: Voshon Lenard, Joel Przybilla Limited Salary Protection: Steve Blake (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to full if not waived before 7/2/06) Sacramento Kings Restricted: None Unrestricted: Jason Hart (P), Jamal Sampson, Bonzi Wells, Corliss Williamson (ETO) Limited Salary Protection: None San Antonio Spurs Restricted: None Unrestricted: Sean Marks, Nazr Mohammed, Nick Van Exel Limited Salary Protection: Melvin Sanders (no salary protection for 06-07) Seattle SuperSonics Restricted: Chris Wilcox Unrestricted: Mikki Moore (P), Mike Wilks Limited Salary Protection: Noel Felix (no salary protection for 06-07) Toronto Raptors Restricted: None Unrestricted: Mike James, Darrick Martin, Alvin Williams (ETO, $5,400,000 salary protection for 06-07), Loren Woods Limited Salary Protection: Andre Barrett (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to 25% if not waived before 9/1/06; to 50% if not waived before 10/31/06) Utah Jazz Restricted: Keith McLeod (T), Andre Owens Unrestricted: Jarron Collins, Matt Harpring, Greg Ostertag, Milt Palacio Limited Salary Protection: Devin Brown ($500,000 salary protection for 06-07) Washington Wizards Restricted: Jared Jeffries, Awvee Storey, Billy Thomas Unrestricted: None Limited Salary Protection: Peter John Ramos (no salary protection for 06-07, but will increase to $372,276 if not waived before 8/16/06. If on team's active or injured list on the first day of the 06-07 season salary protection increases to full), Donell Taylor (no salary protection for 06-07) |
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06-30-2006, 10:35 PM
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In other words, there are far better options to go after than Zo....
Besides, for Zo it's either the Heat or Retirement.
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06-30-2006, 11:24 PM
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Zo was always 1 game away from retirement... I am utterly in disbelief that he recovered to the level he did from that kidney problem.
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07-01-2006, 12:35 AM
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i really don't have any sympathy for that man. its his own damn fault he popped a few too many pills in his earlier years.
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07-01-2006, 12:48 AM
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Looking through that list I saw quite a few names of guys that I had just assumed had already passed away due to the effects of the aging process. Just looking at the unrestricted guys there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot useful players here. I am sure the Mavs can find 1 or 2 guys somewhere. Just might have to play with the guys they already got.
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07-01-2006, 01:12 AM
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Naw, he'll either stay with the Heat or retire. I'd expect we'd resign Benga over signing Zo.
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07-02-2006, 10:02 PM
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Quote:
 This disease he got was pretty rare....He was fortunate to have his cousin donate.
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07-02-2006, 11:08 PM
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Mourning can take the idiot walker with him to where-ever he retires to. The quicker the better.
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07-02-2006, 11:22 PM
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When is walker a FA again, we should go after him.
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07-03-2006, 12:59 AM
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It doesn't matter anymore, we resigned Benga, so their is no way we sign Zo.
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07-09-2006, 01:23 PM
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Spurs unable to land Mourning
Web Posted: 07/09/2006 12:00 AM CDT Johnny Ludden Express-News Staff Writer The Spurs hope to finish their search for a new center within the next few days after making a hard, yet unsuccessful, push to lure Alonzo Mourning from Miami. Aware that Mourning planned to re-sign with the Heat or retire, the Spurs knew they would have a difficult time convincing him to leave Florida, where his family has been settled for much of his 13-year career. But Spurs officials were initially encouraged this past week when Mourning showed interest in joining them. The Spurs' optimism, however, had diminished by Saturday afternoon. Mourning is now expected to return to the Heat and help them defend their NBA title. Spurs officials also have looked at the available big men in Europe, as well as trade options, but will probably sign someone from the small pool of NBA free-agent centers this week. Utah's Jarron Collins and Memphis' Lorenzen Wright are the top remaining unrestricted free-agent centers. New York's Jackie Butler and Charlotte's Melvin Ely are young with potential, but each is a restricted free agent, which would force the Spurs to wait up to a week to see if their offer would be matched. Indiana's Scot Pollard, Boston's Michael Olowokandi, Charlotte's Jake Voskuhl, Denver's Francisco Elson (restricted), Toronto's Loren Woods and Chicago's Luke Schenscher (restricted) are other options. The Spurs tried unsuccessfully to sign Mourning a few seasons ago. He turns 37 in February and is three years removed from a kidney transplant, but that didn't deter the Spurs from again seeking his services. Mourning averaged 7.8 points, 5.5 rebounds and 2.66 blocks — the third-most in the NBA — in 65 games for the Heat last season. He remains one of the league's best interior defenders and would have been a good fit next to Tim Duncan. Because Duncan also will play some center and Lithuanian big man Robertas Javtokas will help back up the position, the Spurs could have used Mourning at the start of each half and kept his minutes in check. Signing Mourning to a two-year contract with a healthy raise from the $1.1 million he made last season also would have fit well with the Spurs' financial plans: Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are the team's only players currently under contract after the 2007-08 season |
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07-09-2006, 07:42 PM
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Wow, if he went to the Spurs, watch out. That's great that he's not going there. Phew!
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07-09-2006, 08:20 PM
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Mourning did not have kidney problems because of pill popping. Ignorance abounds it seems. Good Lord....MT was even correct.
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07-09-2006, 11:13 PM
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Yeah wasn't it just kidney failure? I don't think it was from drugs.
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07-10-2006, 09:41 AM
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I thought mournings kidney disease was a byproduct of anit inflammatories which are in no way illegal or should ever be mentioned as popping pills. i hate zo as he is a pos but to act like he brought the kidney troubles on himself is wrong.
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...gewanted=print So yes, it is very likely that Mourning wrecked his career and almost killed himself by taking a performance enhancing drug.. which is exactly what anti-inflammatories are. Some players choose to live healthy lives and avoid the risk of dangerous drugs (like Fred Hoiberg ... see here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ins...nflammatories/) . Other less honorable individuals choose to try to cheat the healing process and roll the dice. Looks like Mourning crapped out. Last edited by madape; 07-10-2006 at 01:52 PM. |
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07-10-2006, 01:59 PM
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I wouldnt exactly equate anti inflammatories with pill popping either though.
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Zo's an arrogant jackass and I simply hate him, no i'm not bitter about him pretty much beating us but i'm still very bitter about his unprofeswsional behaviour way back when traded to Toronto and whining his way to sign with the Heat. You would think a veteran like him would have a little more courtesy to that organization. No respect to him (or Vince Carter, damn lazy slacking all-star) whatsoever.
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07-10-2006, 08:31 PM
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pill popping. what i mean is he took too many for his own good. when u look on the box of advil and tylenol and all that and it says take 2 pills every 6 hours or whatever the dosage is then you don't do more then that. Zo took way more than he should have. thats why his kidneys failed.
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07-10-2006, 08:34 PM
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but thanks anyway dr w/ your ignorance talk
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07-10-2006, 10:24 PM
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Speaking from experience (my wife is suffering from kidney failure), Zo's problems likely did not come from over usage of anti inflamatories, but prolonged use under a doctors care. That is one of the major contributors to my wife's current condition. I wont go in to the way doctors today play Russian roulette with there patients well being. Just inform yourself if taking any long term medication.
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