So much for Vince Young to the Texans..... - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Drbio · 02-10-2006, 11:56 AM

HONOLULU -- In a move that could augur the selection of Southern California tailback Reggie Bush as the first overall pick in the 2006 draft, league sources here for the Pro Bowl confirmed late Thursday that the Houston Texans have exercised a "buy back" clause in quarterback David Carr's contract, paying him an $8 million bonus to secure his services for three more seasons.

Retaining the four-year veteran quarterback, who would have become eligible for unrestricted free agency had the Texans not exercised the option, makes it highly unlikely that Houston will choose Texas quarterback Vince Young with the top pick in the draft April 29.

Some fans have urged the Texans to choose Young, a Houston native. But Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported weeks ago that Houston officials are locked in on Bush, the 2005 Heisman Trophy winner.

There is still some chance that Houston could choose Young or perhaps Southern California quarterback Matt Leinart. But doing so would mean keeping a young quarterback on the bench for a few seasons, or trading Carr.

The Texans' confidence has wavered only slightly in Carr in four seasons. Every indication in recent weeks was that the Texans would pay the "buy back" bonus to keep Carr.

Former NFL head coach Dan Reeves, who served as a consultant to Texans owner Bob McNair, recommended keeping Carr, the top overall choice in the 2002 draft. First-year head coach Gary Kubiak, who has a strong reputation around the league for developing quarterbacks and whose presence could enhance Carr's performance, apparently gave him a strong endorsement, too.

Carr, 26, has appeared in 60 games, starting 59. He has completed 941 of 1,628 passes for 10,624 yards, with 48 touchdowns passes, 53 interceptions and a passer rating of 73.7. But the former Fresno State star has suffered from a lack of support, particularly on the offensive line.

He has been sacked an amazing 208 times in his career, including a league-record 76 times in 2002 and 68 times during the 2005 campaign. Carr has a 16-43 record as a starter.

Under the terms of the complicated seven-year, $46.75 million contract Carr signed as a rookie, the final three seasons of the deal were voidable. Early in his career, Carr reached sufficient performance levels to cancel those three years, and technically, his contract would have expired on March 3, the first day of free agency.

But the Texans had the right to "buy back" the voidable years and had two options for doing so. The first would have involved paying Carr a bonus of $5.5 million to buy back two seasons, at base salaries of $5 million for 2006 and $5.25 million for 2007. The second, the deal for which Houston opted, included the $8 million bonus, which bought back three seasons, at base salaries of $5.25 million each in 2006 and 2007 and of $6 million in 2008.

At one point during the season, Houston officials considered the possibility of exercising the two-year option. The Texans also reviewed which NFL franchises might need a quarterback of starting caliber in the next few years, in the event they decided to trade Carr.

They have never come close, however, to putting Carr on the market.

capitalcity · 02-10-2006, 12:06 PM

smokescreen.

Drbio · 02-10-2006, 12:20 PM

denial. It ain't a river in Egypt.

Dtownsfinest · 02-10-2006, 12:34 PM

Yea I see this as a smokescreen. Maybe they do chose Bush over Young but I don't think this article is a confirmation. Could be the Texans trying to build up their #1 pick in case there is a team out there who wants Bush in their backfield.

jthig32 · 02-10-2006, 01:55 PM

You guys are crazy. They're drafting Bush, move on. 8 mil is damn expensive for a smoke screen.

capitalcity · 02-10-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

...8 mil is damn expensive for a smoke screen.

Perhaps.

Drafting the king of houston will bring unmeasurable sums.

Drbio · 02-10-2006, 02:37 PM

*sigh*

t.u.homers are closed minded.

Male30Dan · 02-10-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Drbio

*sigh*

t.u.homers are closed minded.

ub homers' minds are closed!

Drbio · 02-10-2006, 03:40 PM

You guys are all setting yourself up for failure if you think for a minute that VY is going to play in Houston.

I'll mock you all on draft day.

Male30Dan · 02-10-2006, 03:55 PM

Actually Doc, I don't think that. I just wanted to rib the cubs a bit!

Five-ofan · 02-11-2006, 07:47 PM

He isnt going first. If the texans think bush makes them the best they are doing the right thing. I disagree with them but they have to do what they think is right. You cant let the fans run your team. Remember when everyone booed the eagles for drafting donovan instead of ricky???? That is why you cant let fans play gm.

Five-ofan · 02-11-2006, 07:47 PM

He=VY

Drbio · 02-12-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

He=VY

Vince Young is made of Helium?

(sorry...random scientist humor...nothing to see here...move on.....)

Five-ofan · 02-12-2006, 03:43 PM

lol. Thats ok im waiting on xerxes to be the last poster in the make false reckless... thread. Have to make fun of someone having an old testament kings name as his screen name.

Dtownsfinest · 02-13-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

He isnt going first. If the texans think bush makes them the best they are doing the right thing. I disagree with them but they have to do what they think is right. You cant let the fans run your team. Remember when everyone booed the eagles for drafting donovan instead of ricky???? That is why you cant let fans play gm.

Good point. But I think even the Texans have to know that it doesn't matter if Reggie Bush becomes the new Barry Sanders. If they don't fix their problems at the quarterback position than they aren't going to be contending anytime soon. You already have Domanick Davis in the backfield. Far from a bad back. You have David Carr who in my opinion is far from finished. Not sure if he has what it takes to lead a team to the Superbowl but thus far he's shown nothing for me to believe he can. They have a tough decision to make but being that they have one of the worse offensive lines in the league I hope its in their plans to fix that problem. Reggie Bush or Vince Young can't do squat behind a bad offensive line.

Drbio · 02-16-2006, 08:23 PM

I attended the Texas Hall of Fame induction and got to meet Mike Sherman, the Texans new offensive coach and former coach of the Packers. There were some other Texans personnel there too. One of the local radio guys asked him if the Texans were going to select Young and he replied "You trying to kill me? I've only had this job one day." Everyone laughed. Sherman walked off but the other Texans front office guys (sorry I did not recognize them or hear their name) were talking to the media and one of them said they couldn't divulge who they would pick but he struck the Heisman pose and gave a wink.

They are picking Bush.

u2sarajevo · 06-07-2006, 03:27 PM

Tennessee gets smarter:

Titans, Ravens agree to McNair trade
By John Clayton
ESPN.com

After an offseason of not being able to work out in the Titans facility, Steve McNair is finally going to have a new office to call home -- in Baltimore.

Pending a physical, McNair is on his way to Baltimore in a trade that is believed to involve a fourth-round choice in 2007. Those were terms that have been discussed for the past several weeks between the two teams. There is a possibility the draft pick could become a third-round choice depending on his playing time and performance in 2006.

The Titans released a statement Wednesday that spelled out McNair's departure. "We have granted permission to Baltimore to give Steve McNair a physical, which we expect to take place in the next 24 hours," the Titans said in statement. "Upon passing a physical, final trade terms will be agreed upon."

The trade ends one of the strangest exits of a franchise quarterback in recent NFL history. McNair, a 10-year institution with the Titans who helped take the team to a Super Bowl, had to win a grievance against the Titans to be allowed in the facility because the team feared an injury. McNair, considered a warrior who fought through numerous injuries to play during his 10-year career, had a $23 million cap number and the team didn't want him to be hurt and then be stuck with the high salary cap number.

After winning the grievance, the Titans informed him last week that he failed the team physical at the end of last season and needed to take another physical in order to return to the team. McNair and his agent, Bus Cook, were in the process of trying to schedule that physical when the team decided to let him go the Ravens.

During the second day of the NFL draft in April, the Titans gave Cook permission to talk to the Ravens about a new contract. Cook worked out a deal that gave him an $11 million signing bonus and a $1 million base salary. That was more than the $9 million he was scheduled to make in base salary for the Ravens in 2006.

In acquiring McNair, the Ravens feel they have received the final piece of the puzzle that could enable them to challenge the Steelers and the Bengals for the NFC North title. The 33-year-old McNair was the third pick in the 1995 draft and the Titans did the right thing in grooming him for greatness.

They only let him start six games during his first two seasons in Houston. By his third season, McNair was a starter in which the franchise was able to start building a winner. His completion percentage and quarterback rating kept improving as the team improve around him.

He went to the Pro Bowl in 2000, 2003 and 2005.

Though Kyle Boller is currently the Ravens starting quarterback, McNair goes to the team with enough time for him to win the starting job and try to take the team to the playoffs. He reunites with two former Titans -- wide receiver Derrick Mason and cornerback Samari Rolle. Mason and Rolle signed with the Ravens last year.

For McNair, the trade ends a tough exit from the Titans. While he thought he was going to have to take a Thursday physical in Nashville for a team that no longer wanted him, McNair can take a Thursday physical with a Raven team that has waited the entire offseason to get him.

jthig32 · 06-07-2006, 03:51 PM

All this means is Billy Volek is their starting QB. Certainly not VY.

Five-ofan · 06-07-2006, 05:58 PM

Ugh. This has been a season of bad gm moves in the nfl. The texans will wish like hell they had that pick back in 2 years.

Drbio · 06-07-2006, 10:08 PM

They are setting VY up for Akili Smith quality failure. Horrible way to treat a guy just out of college.