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BPo001 · 07-20-2021, 10:40 PM

Does CP3 go to the Lakers next season to try and get a ring at the twilight of his career, or does he come back to Phoenix thinking they can win it next season?

JustJay · 07-20-2021, 10:55 PM

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Does CP3 go to the Lakers next season to try and get a ring at the twilight of his career, or does he come back to Phoenix thinking they can win it next season?

Do you mean go to the Lakers for like the MLE or sign and trade? I don't see Paul taking the MLE although I guess crazier things have happened. Lakers have no cap space so who are they giving Phoenix, Kuzma's not really a fit on that team IMO but who knows maybe they take him just to get something. I'm going to lean towards him coming back unless we find out there's some issue, there usually is on every team Paul is on.

BPo001 · 07-20-2021, 11:05 PM

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Do you mean go to the Lakers for like the MLE or sign and trade? I don't see Paul taking the MLE although I guess crazier things have happened. Lakers have no cap space so who are they giving Phoenix, Kuzma's not really a fit on that team IMO but who knows maybe they take him just to get something. I'm going to lean towards him coming back unless we find out there's some issue, there usually is on every team Paul is on.

I’m sure if CP3 says he’s coming they can shed salary. There is always a way. CP3 knows winning a ring will alter his legacy.

JustJay · 07-21-2021, 08:56 AM

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I’m sure if CP3 says he’s coming they can shed salary. There is always a way. CP3 knows winning a ring will alter his legacy.

You're right I thought Kuzma hadn't re-signed yet but he signed in Dec. they could probably dump him for no return and maybe Caldwell Pope if a team is interested both are making about 13 million a year. Guess we'll see.

BPo001 · 07-20-2021, 10:58 PM

Middleton not going to let anyone else hold the trophy?

mac222b · 07-20-2021, 11:13 PM

https://imgur.com/gg4Njpn

JustJay · 07-21-2021, 10:32 AM

I didn't have any accounts here before but I'm not surprised you got into with someone else because you're only here to cause trouble and make up shit.

Dtownsfinest · 07-21-2021, 10:50 AM

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I didn't have any accounts here before but I'm not surprised you got into with someone else because you're only here to cause trouble and make up shit.

Yeah....what trouble am I causing anyone but you? I can't be concerned with someone in their feelings to the point they can't control their language and can't control how they act to the point they resort to creating burner accounts.

Keep it cordial and I'll do the same...I assume all of us are Mavs fans and are adults so I'd like to think we can conduct ourselves as such. "Trolling" is the game of a child. Play games with your kids not me is all I'm saying.....

JustJay · 07-21-2021, 10:34 AM

Well you're not very smart so it's not surprising that you think one person wins games and championships. You think Trae Young did it alone, you think Giannis did it alone, you think Kawhi did it alone. Simpleton.

Dtownsfinest · 07-21-2021, 10:53 AM

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Well you're not very smart so it's not surprising that you think one person wins games and championships. You think Trae Young did it alone, you think Giannis did it alone, you think Kawhi did it alone. Simpleton.

So by me saying Giannis has a great team and he has no superstars on it...your comprehension skills lead you to me saying he did it alone? Yikes. You're accusing me of saying things I never said....either this is a calculated troll attempt by you or you're not capable of comprehension....and if you aren't that's ok. If you're too stupid to get such a very stupid point that's fine. I don't blame you for that. But if you're "trolling" like you're claiming I'm doing? Then yeah like I said above, play with your kids not me.

spreedom · 07-23-2021, 06:00 PM

How are people looking at 20/9 in a vacuum as if he wasn't statistically one of the very worst defenders in the league and couldn't stay healthy (and never has)? Considering his shortcomings, I don't think he's a top 100 NBA player, let alone a top 30.

Dtownsfinest · 07-23-2021, 08:01 PM

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How are people looking at 20/9 in a vacuum as if he wasn't statistically one of the very worst defenders in the league and couldn't stay healthy (and never has)? Considering his shortcomings, I don't think he's a top 100 NBA player, let alone a top 30.

I hear you man….I didn’t realize how many players I could come up with that I’d rather have….didn’t quite make it to 100 lol…..

JustJay · 07-25-2021, 09:05 PM

Lakers are trying to acquire Buddy Hield with a package involving Kuzma and Caldwell Pope.

They did call it a rumor for now though at the end of the article. But it makes sense since they were 24th in 3 point shooting last season.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/l...ge-per-report/

BPo001 · 07-25-2021, 10:52 PM

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Lakers are trying to acquire Buddy Hield with a package involving Kuzma and Caldwell Pope.

They did call it a rumor for now though at the end of the article. But it makes sense since they were 24th in 3 point shooting last season.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/l...ge-per-report/

What’s in it for the Kings? Buddy is better than both those guys, no?

JustJay · 07-26-2021, 04:09 AM

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What’s in it for the Kings? Buddy is better than both those guys, no?

Buddy has wanted out of there for awhile. But I think they can get something better.

BPo001 · 07-26-2021, 07:15 AM

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Buddy has wanted out of there for awhile. But I think they can get something better.

I was hoping we would flip THJ for Hield last season, and somehow get Bagley in the process. Doubt THJ would be interested in a SnT to Sacramento now though.

Dtownsfinest · 07-26-2021, 11:36 AM

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What’s in it for the Kings? Buddy is better than both those guys, no?

Has to be salary relief right? I think people still feel Kuzma still has a high ceiling....its worth noting that all those guys who left LA like Hart, Ball, Ingram, Randle.....all have been better since leaving that city...maybe the same for Kuzma?

Jack.Kerr · 07-28-2021, 03:07 PM

Report: NBA to Make Rule Change, Disallow Shooters From Leaning Into Defenders for Foul Calls

Loocuh's stock plummeting.

saclare · 07-28-2021, 03:20 PM

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Report: NBA to Make Rule Change, Disallow Shooters From Leaning Into Defenders for Foul Calls

Loocuh's stock plummeting.

Along with a lot of other top scorers in the league. Wash at worst, and with Luka's abilities, maybe even a positive. This and the rip thru were long overdue rule changes.

Edit: that last bullet concerning abruptly changing direction including backwards pretty much kills one of CP3's go to moves

JustJay · 07-28-2021, 07:05 PM

They took away James Harden's right to make a living.

JustJay · 07-31-2021, 03:21 AM

Kuzma and Harrell may be on the move again from Washington. They really only want Caldwell-Pope apparently. LOL Harrell opted in for this.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-31-2021, 08:25 AM

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Kuzma and Harrell may be on the move again from Washington. They really only want Caldwell-Pope apparently. LOL Harrell opted in for this.

He was lied to. He opted in thinking he was going to Sacramento.

If only we could trade Powell for Harrell. Swear to jeebus if Powell is still on this team next season...ugh.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-31-2021, 12:01 PM

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He was lied to. He opted in thinking he was going to Sacramento.

If only we could trade Powell for Harrell. Swear to jeebus if Powell is still on this team next season...ugh.

Trade him to Indiana for Warren or Lamb.

You're Welcome Rick.

EricaLubarsky · 08-03-2021, 11:49 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/qwik/stat...21732635684867

Dude is an egotist and the literal worst

BPo001 · 09-25-2021, 04:43 PM

NBA Central: Brian Windhorst says Ben Simmons playing in front of Sixers fans is a ‘factor’ in him wanting out of Philadelphia “He doesn’t want to be in front of those fans. …I don’t think he intends to ever show his face there again.” (Via @Sirius XM NBA ) pic.twitter.com/Ltt0ccwARf – via Twitter TheNBACentral

Philadelphia 76ers players wanted to travel to Los Angeles this week to meet with Ben Simmons and spend time convincing their All-Star teammate to commit to the 2021-22 season with them, but they were informed not to come and that Simmons did not want to meet, sources tell The Athletic. – via Shams Charania and The Athletic Staff @ The Athletic
Top Rumors, Trade, Ben Simmons, Philadelphia 76ers

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The core leaders on the 76ers — such as Joel Embiid, Tobias Harris and Matisse Thybulle — and most of the team were set to take a jet to see Simmons before being turned away, sources said. Multiple sources said Simmons didn’t want his teammates, some of whom he considers friends, to make the Philadelphia-to-Los Angeles commute out of courtesy because he won’t change his mind on wanting a trade. – via Shams Charania and The Athletic Staff @ The Athletic

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-08-2021, 10:12 AM

So Sixers want 6 picks (3 firsts, 3 swaps) and CJ Mccollum from the Blazers. Not really sure how anyone could side with them at this point. This is typical Morey who is finally being exposed as the trash GM he has always been. Trying to "get back" at Ben with these ridiculous trade demands should be fireable.

mac222b · 10-08-2021, 11:54 AM

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So Sixers want 6 picks (3 firsts, 3 swaps) and CJ Mccollum from the Blazers. Not really sure how anyone could side with them at this point. This is typical Morey who is finally being exposed as the trash GM he has always been. Trying to "get back" at Ben with these ridiculous trade demands should be fireable.

Hell to the no on that one. More like one pick, CJ and a swap if that. Philly not operations from a position of strength and Simmons desire to actually improve and be a good teammate has to be questioned at this point.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-08-2021, 01:24 PM

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Hell to the no on that one. More like one pick, CJ and a swap if that. Philly not operations from a position of strength and Simmons desire to actually improve and be a good teammate has to be questioned at this point.

But this no longer has anything to do with what kind of player Simmons is. There is no question at all that they wanted to move on and so did he after the playoffs ended.

It all went to the circus when Morey started demanding stupid things. Why? There is no benefit to this other than making you and your franchise look bad. Ben is already eating paychecks to get something done. Had 5 months to get a deal done.

mac222b · 10-08-2021, 02:18 PM

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But this no longer has anything to do with what kind of player Simmons is. There is no question at all that they wanted to move on and so did he after the playoffs ended.

It all went to the circus when Morey started demanding stupid things. Why? There is no benefit to this other than making you and your franchise look bad. Ben is already eating paychecks to get something done. Had 5 months to get a deal done.

Oh I agree. Just saying that his disposition fits into the calculus of what teams are willing to offer. He seems like an aloof, arrogant dude who hasn’t bothered to work on shooting. He can’t even be bothered TO shoot. Then you’ve got a guy like CJ who is clearly not as physically talented but is a model citizen, wants to be in Portland and can really shoot. I think they’d have to pull the trigger on a straight up swap but as soon as you add other assets I’ll get Portland draws the line real quick.

I still think something involving Siakam makes the most sense, whether it’s a 3 way or Simmons for Siakam + picks. Siakam is starting to age out of Toronto’s new timeline and was a disruption last season and now he’s hurt. He might do well with a change of scenery.

EricaLubarsky · 10-10-2021, 01:56 PM

Kyrie refuses to get vaxxed which means he can’t play in Brooklyn.

Claims he may retire if traded which means his trade value is zero

Poor Nash.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-10-2021, 02:43 PM

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Kyrie refuses to get vaxxed which means he can’t play in Brooklyn.

Claims he may retire if traded which means his trade value is zero

Poor Nash.

Kyrie should just retire because he doesn't want to play basketball anymore.

FreshJive · 10-11-2021, 05:46 AM

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Kyrie should just retire because he doesn't want to play basketball anymore.

I almost think he doesn’t want to get vaxxed, just so he can skip home games. The dude used the capitol riot as an excuse to party. He’s always looking for an excuse to take days off. What are they going to do in the playoffs? I almost don’t put it past him to have a “sudden change of heart” right before the playoffs and get the vaccine.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-11-2021, 10:10 AM

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I almost think he doesn’t want to get vaxxed, just so he can skip home games. The dude used the capitol riot as an excuse to party. He’s always looking for an excuse to take days off. What are they going to do in the playoffs? I almost don’t put it past him to have a “sudden change of heart” right before the playoffs and get the vaccine.

And I cannot believe Nash said they expect him not to play homes games with a straight face.

Just mandate the vaccine league wide and be done with it. Enough with this grey area bs.

EricaLubarsky · 10-12-2021, 09:22 AM

The new space rules are going to wreck our boy Harden

https://streamable.com/8xhnw2

EricaLubarsky · 10-19-2021, 08:50 PM

https://twitter.com/highkin/status/1450543828285333506

mac222b · 10-19-2021, 09:03 PM

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https://mobile.twitter.com/home

What is it link nonwork

EricaLubarsky · 10-19-2021, 09:04 PM

Simmons came to practice. REfused to listen to coach and is now suspended.

mac222b · 10-19-2021, 10:39 PM

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Simmons came to practice. REfused to listen to coach and is now suspended.

Yeah he’s getting terrible advice. What an infant. Klutch strikes again.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-20-2021, 12:05 AM

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Yeah he’s getting terrible advice. What an infant. Klutch strikes again.

Not seeing how people could really be on the Sixers side at this point. Again, they wanted to trade him, he wanted out. They publicly thew him under the bus and more or less blamed him for their playoff failure. Fine.

The entirety of this now lies on a GM who wants a king's ransom in return. A return that only a prime Jordan would get you.

Did people honestly think Ben would show up, and it's all water under the bus? They are basically holding him hostage at this point.

Just think about it. What happens when Ben plays in a home game? He'll be booed off the court the second he enters the game.

I agree that he shouldn't act childish because it's all tit for tat at this point, but that franchise is stupid as hell which is typical of Morey.

mac222b · 10-20-2021, 01:13 AM

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Not seeing how people could really be on the Sixers side at this point. Again, they wanted to trade him, he wanted out. They publicly thew him under the bus and more or less blamed him for their playoff failure. Fine.

The entirety of this now lies on a GM who wants a king's ransom in return. A return that only a prime Jordan would get you.

Did people honestly think Ben would show up, and it's all water under the bus? They are basically holding him hostage at this point.

Just think about it. What happens when Ben plays in a home game? He'll be booed off the court the second he enters the game.

I agree that he shouldn't act childish because it's all tit for tat at this point, but that franchise is stupid as hell which is typical of Morey.

I dislike Morey as much as the next guy. But it’s his job to get as close to fair value and fit for the franchise. I agree he probably wanted too much. He’s not getting it now; he outplayed his hand. But Ben is acting like an absolute idiot. He’s a laughingstock of the league. Was that the plan?