09-10-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
I think common sense would be that anything half-discussed in an official thread and half-discussed in a separate thread isn't going to be very well discussed at all, and that moving anything from an official thread to it's own thread would be a complex mess, and that almost all of the participation in any discussion is reading and replying to posts, not posting original discussion topics.
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I think common sense would be that if you don't like this site, then move the f*ck on...
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09-10-2010, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
I think common sense would be that if you don't like this site, then move the f*ck on...
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Saying that to trolls is one thing. Saying that to well intentioned posters who have done a great job in past basketball discussions is another. Unfortunately, I think we're losing a lot of good posters because of attitudes like this, and the quality of basketball discussion is likely to suffer this season.
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09-10-2010, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
Saying that to trolls is one thing. Saying that to well intentioned posters who have done a great job in past basketball discussions is another. Unfortunately, I think we're losing a lot of good posters because of attitudes like this, and the quality of basketball discussion is likely to suffer this season.
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All you've done the last week is bitch about official threads - great contribution, champ!
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09-10-2010, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
I think common sense would be that anything half-discussed in an official thread and half-discussed in a separate thread isn't going to be very well discussed at all, and that moving anything from an official thread to it's own thread would be a complex mess, and that almost all of the participation in any discussion is reading and replying to posts, not posting original discussion topics.
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I mean this in all honesty, but it really isn't hard for me personally to read posts either in a long official thread or a single topic thread. And it doesn't take me that much time to do it, either.
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09-10-2010, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
Saying that to trolls is one thing. Saying that to well intentioned posters who have done a great job in past basketball discussions is another. Unfortunately, I think we're losing a lot of good posters because of attitudes like this, and the quality of basketball discussion is likely to suffer this season.
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like 4 years ago. How long are people allowed a free pass to bitch and expect things without contributing?
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09-10-2010, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
I mean this in all honesty, but it really isn't hard for me personally to read posts either in a long official thread or a single topic thread. And it doesn't take me that much time to do it, either.
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It's definitely not as easy to search, and it's not that as easy for everyone to read.
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09-10-2010, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one
like 4 years ago. How long are people allowed a free pass to bitch and expect things without contributing?
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I wasn't talking about any specific individual, and UD's post sounded like it applied to anyone.
But I don't think it should matter how long ago anyone was contributing. I think we should make real effort to find the best topics/threads ratio for attracting the best basketball posters, no matter how often they'd ever contributed. If I thought we were losing good basketball minds because of too many separate threads per topic, then I'd say that. As it is, I think we've got too many topics in a few threads.
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09-10-2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
I wasn't talking about any specific individual, and UD's post sounded like it applied to anyone.
But I don't think it should matter how long ago anyone was contributing. I think we should make real effort to find the best topics/threads ratio for attracting the best basketball posters, no matter how often they'd ever contributed. If I thought we were losing good basketball minds because of too many separate threads per topic, then I'd say that. As it is, I think we've got too many topics in a few threads.
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Why not just make new threads? It's such a simple concept. You think we need more threads... make more.
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09-10-2010, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one
Why not just make new threads? It's such a simple concept. You think we need more threads... make more.
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That's been said over & over again in this thread...
Maybe we need to make a new thread about it?
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09-10-2010, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
That's been said over & over again in this thread...
Maybe we need to make a new thread about it?
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The Official Common Sense Thread?
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09-10-2010, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one
Why not just make new threads? It's such a simple concept. You think we need more threads... make more.
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because
1)topics are already started in the general threads, and keeping multiple partial conversations going doesn't work
2)it's not always about starting new topics, but about joining into ongoing discussions. That's hard to do for some people when multiple discussions are in the same thread.
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09-10-2010, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
because
1)topics are already started in the general threads, and keeping multiple partial conversations going doesn't work
2)it's not always about starting new topics, but about joining into ongoing discussions. That's hard to do for some people when multiple discussions are in the same thread.
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So what's your solution to this problem?
Have you thought up of a way to control what the ball do, or are you just going to keep repeating the same thing over & over?
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09-10-2010, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
So what's your solution to this problem?
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people should exercise the new thread option (everyone knows they can) instead of rolling all the threads into a single topic.
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Have you thought up of a way to control what the ball do, or are you just going to keep repeating the same thing over & over?
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I have no idea what you mean by this.
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09-10-2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
people should exercise the new thread option (everyone knows they can) instead of rolling all the threads into a single topic.
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Why don't YOU exercise the new thread option? There have been plenty of topics this offseason (and plenty of threads), but the only thread you actually created was the Tyson Chandler thread (which is almost as vague as calling it "The Official Tyson Chandler Thread" when what you're really talking about is Tyson Chandler's participation with Team USA...)
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I have no idea what you mean by this.
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Seems to me that you have a problem with free will and you think the best solution to that problem is bitching about it over and over again.
Maybe if you keep bitching you'll drive everyone away so you can run this site however the hell you want... Or maybe you can go start your own Mavs site with the other old-timers who had superior basketball conversations before all us noobs showed up and made everything teh suck.
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09-10-2010, 05:44 PM
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I see what you did there.
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09-10-2010, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Why don't YOU exercise the new thread option?
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why do you keep saying that? It's still not all about starting new threads. It would be easier to participate in ongoing topics if they were threaded.
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Seems to me that you have a problem with free will
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what? Do you think everyone who doesn't agree with you about something has a problem with free will?
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Maybe if you keep bitching you'll drive everyone away so you can run this site however the hell you want... Or maybe you can go start your own Mavs site with the other old-timers who had superior basketball conversations before all us noobs showed up and made everything teh suck.
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who said anything about anyone being superior to you? You are being defensive and irrational.
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09-10-2010, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
why do you keep saying that? It's still not all about starting new threads. It would be easier to participate in ongoing topics if they were threaded.
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lol jesus
For there to be threaded ongoing topics to participate in, SOMEONE has to "start new threads". Why not the person who is complaining about this.
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09-10-2010, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
why do you keep saying that? It's still not all about starting new threads. It would be easier to participate in ongoing topics if they were threaded.
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So what's stopping YOU from threading individual topics? Why is this everyone else's responsibility?
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what? Do you think everyone who doesn't agree with you about something has a problem with free will?
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You're complaining about how other people use this site as if there's some solution to your complaint...
The only solution I can see is taking away everyone's free will to lump everything into one thread, otherwise your only solution is to live with it and stop bitching. You can't change how everyone else uses this site, but you can change how you deal with it.
If you want new threads for a topic, then make new threads, but quit crying about how everyone else conducts themselves... This is a message board, we're going to get off-topic and talk about things as they pop into our mind, regardless of which thread we're in (you know, the same way you chose to talk about better uses for the DUST Chip in the Tyson Chandler thread when there's already another thread dedicated to the DUST Chip... How will anyone know where to look for that conversation???)
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
who said anything about anyone being superior to you? You are being defensive and irrational.
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You're the one implying that old members stopped posting here because of "official threads" and "attitudes like mine" (as if the "move the f*ck on" attitude wasn't a regular fixture on this site back in the Good Ol' Days...)
I know the world sucks and it's everyone's fault but yours, but did you ever think that maybe lack of participation by older members has more to do with a 1st-round loss to Golden State, a 1st-round loss to New Orleans, a 2nd-round loss to Denver and a 1st-round loss to San Antonio than it has to do with anything that anyone around here has done in the last 4 years?
Who's being irrational here?
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09-10-2010, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
but the only thread you actually created was the Tyson Chandler thread (which is almost as vague as calling it "The Official Tyson Chandler Thread" when what you're really talking about is Tyson Chandler's participation with Team USA...)
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I find "The Official Tyson Chandler Thread" to be a much less vague and more specific thread title than "Tyson Chandler".
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09-11-2010, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one
lol jesus
For there to be threaded ongoing topics to participate in, SOMEONE has to "start new threads". Why not the person who is complaining about this.
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because topics are ongoing, lumped together in a single thread. To move the discussion out to its own thread would be a community effort.
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09-11-2010, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
You're complaining ... stop bitching. ..., but quit crying about how everyone else conducts themselves...
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I'm not complaining, bitching, or crying. I'm just saying that I think a discussion board works better with threaded discussions. You are getting emotional and personal.
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The only solution I can see is taking away everyone's free will to lump everything into one thread,
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I'd rather have a rational discussion about the benefits and drawbacks of threading topics.
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You're the one implying that old members stopped posting here
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my implication is that you are purposefully chasing off people who might otherwise be productive posters - and I'm starting to think it's because you've got some weird personal attachment to the official threads thing.
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know the world sucks and it's everyone's fault but yours, but did you ever think that maybe lack of participation by older members. . .
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When people say that the single thread for multiple topics thing is too hard for them to deal with, then I take them at their word.
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09-11-2010, 02:35 AM
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What a beating this thread is.
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09-11-2010, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
because topics are ongoing, lumped together in a single thread. To move the discussion out to its own thread would be a community effort.
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This must be a bit and I'm done with it. Think something shouldn't be discussed in the Off Season thread? Make a freaking thread about it. If you'll notice, we stopped talking about TC in the off season thread once the TC thread got started.
I'm done. You're bitching just to bitch.
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09-11-2010, 05:36 PM
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Is it official yet?
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09-11-2010, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one
If you'll notice, we stopped talking about TC in the off season thread once the TC thread got started..
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hasn't worked that way for everything. And things really slowed down in that thread after hitman posted this one.
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09-12-2010, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
hasn't worked that way for everything. And things really slowed down in that thread after hitman posted this one.
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thats gotta be a bit. I think Fluid has you tagged.
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09-14-2010, 11:08 AM
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Perhaps someone should start an "Official Cheese Thread" it would go good with all the Whine on this board
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