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Old 12-25-2023, 10:14 PM   #1
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We have one present left to unwrap: Lively is in the lineup (a Christmas miracle)

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Not a huge fan of thj starting.

Luka making sure Lively gets his early. Just keep him out of foul trouble
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Lively quick pull after 4 min. Keep him fresh with the ankle
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Defense goes wobbly as soon as Lively leaves.
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Hardaway shouldn?t be starting.

Grant is mind numbing to watch.

Luka said gimme the damn ball
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Luka said gimme that shit
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No more Hardy, please.
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Lively back immediately makes impact. Reb and And 1
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Careful about Lively picking up a second foul in the last 90 seconds of the first
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Grant looks scared to play basketball
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Yeah I worry about him. He looks happy but lost from row 14
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And this is why thj is better with second unit

Also get Powell tf out
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As bad as Suns have played only down 11?can?t get too complacent to end the half
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Damn Exum with 3 fouls
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Metu with 13/10 lol

Can?t have Powell and Grant on the floor at the same time. Leads evaporate
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Metu turned it over and then Booker yelled at him for not running back lol

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Luka coasting third quarter. Need to wake up
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There?s the Mavs we know and expect.
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I hate when a team keeps shooting 3s that aren?t falling
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Well it was a fun first half.

Mavs haven?t realized defense matters yet.
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Please god stop shooting 3s

And nw Curry is in
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Seth, Grant, and Hardy in lmao Kidd is garbage
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Luka 3rd most points on Christmas Day. 50/6/14 assists. AND made multiple defensive plays.

Lively was the difference in the game because the offense could flow. And we could rebound.

Phoenix was determined to double Luka, and Mavs started using DJJ to flash in the middle and make good decisions. It was satisfying to watch.

Merry Christmas and good night to anyone reading.
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A rested Luka can play defense.

Not only that, but 12/12 on fts. In fact, Luka is shooting his best FT% of his career.

Guy is the best player in the NBA when he isn't complaining and hustles on D. In fact, I'm not sure it's close when those things are going right. He can do things other players just can't do.

But the real story is Lively. 20/10 centers don't grow on trees. Yes, he is spoon fed by Luka, but who cares? How many bigs did we have that couldn't even catch the ball? (shoutout Damp!)
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THIS -- honestly, it kind of makes me optimistic that he's in a funk and once he gets his confidence back, he will be a very good contributor. Maybe not lighting the world on fire as he was to start the season, but at least not whatever this is that we are seeing.

He had a little dog in him last night and was a semi-enforcer, Mavs will need that at times. Will need his defensive versatility and shooting to come back at the least.

Oh, and they upped Luka's line to 15 assists. Just a fun performance to watch.
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Seeing a lot of online chatter about how Luka is so ?different? this year.

I think his defensive effort is different. Free throws are not an issue for him. But we?ve been saying for years now if they get a center around him, it would open everything up. He can also take plays off from being the primary ball handler. That?s what?s giving him the ability to look ?different?
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THIS -- honestly, it kind of makes me optimistic that he's in a funk and once he gets his confidence back, he will be a very good contributor. Maybe not lighting the world on fire as he was to start the season, but at least not whatever this is that we are seeing.

He had a little dog in him last night and was a semi-enforcer, Mavs will need that at times. Will need his defensive versatility and shooting to come back at the least.
Yes, Grant Williams needs to be our PJ Tucker. I really don't care as much about the made threes. I want toughness and defense.

His defense has been basically non-existent this season otherwise. Maybe it's the system change? But he was a good defender in Boston unless we were all being fooled.
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Last night I got some crazy good seats. Really primo in row 14. We weren't center as I thought and I was worried because we were right next to the Mavs basket in the first half and Suns in the second.

1) Execution was really solid. Even missing threes, they had some really nice-looking execution. I despise Kidd, but getting the ball to Lively as a secondary distributor changes the game. Sometimes he'd dunk it. Sometimes it was a little hook thing. Sometimes he'd have an excellent view to kick it out to guys at the three. The threat of his passing actually opened it up for him more too. Lively and Luka were easily the best players on the court and had the best chemistry.

2) Mavs still struggle to shoot threes sometimes. There was a moment where even my partner was like, "Lively is there for a dunk. Why did they pass it out to the three?" They missed the three and Suns went on to take the lead. I wonder if the easy two (oop) would have been better than so many possessions with zero. Again, crazy good execution and the guys were open, but we just go cold sometimes.

3) Luka is a god. Sat with a group of Mavs fans and we all cheered when he hit 10,000pts, tying Bob McAdoo. 50-6-14 is a crazy line. Lively is going to cut into those rebounds for the triple-double sometimes.

4) Grayson Allen is the most punchable guy in the NBA. He averaged 12 and went off last night. I guess I'm glad that Kidd's coaching slowed Durant and Booker, but Mavs love to have a no name guy go off. If they lost, I would be so sore that Allen was the guy that did it. Luckily he shot himself out of rhythm by shooting so many open shots.

5) Got a great look at the defense in the second half and it was so strange. I really don't get how Mavs can both leave a three point shooter on the baseline open AND a lob threat. It really should have failed us, but either Kidd did good or the Suns just suck that much.

6) Kyrie was joking and walking around out there. I can't imagine he's far from return.

7) Green was at the very edge of the seats and he looked completely disengaged. Team members didn't even acknowledge him. For a solid player he seems to be on clearance rack for trades right now.

8) Williams looked totally lost to start the game. He looked like he took a flagrant shot to the head in the second half and took offense. It was on the other side of the court so yall may have seen it better, but it looked bad. Threw hands at Booker and I thought he was getting ejected but it was a double tech. After that he had 2-3 good defensive possessions and two good drives for scores-- then Kidd immediately benched him after his first productive stretch.

9) Exum was disappointing. Even had a play where he drove and there was no help so he should have scored, but he turned around to pass it out. 7-5-4 is still good, but he just looked off.

10) DJJ is the man. He was the guy getting the kick all through the third and fourth and he was missing, but when Luka was getting doubled, he just has a supernatural way to use his athleticism and dexterity to make teams pay. Really phenomenal put-back and finally made a dagger three to secure it. We did good with him. Really hope we keep him, because we need more DJJs around Luka (defensive, athletic, can score without gravity) than guys like THJ (all offense, little defense)

11) No Holmes or Morris. That's all.

12) Curry came out and did nothing. Kidd looked like he had to play him when everyone else was missing their threes. He made some crazy threes, but only after the whistle. He's a nice luxury, but didn't produce tonight.

13) Suns fans suck. They were filling the aisle leaving when the Mavs went up seven. Crazy. I got some good footage and it made me happy to see them turning tail.

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Last night I got some crazy good seats. Really primo in row 14. We weren't center as I thought and I was worried because we were right next to the Mavs basket in the first half and Suns in the second.

1) Execution was really solid. Even missing threes, they had some really nice-looking execution. I despise Kidd, but getting the ball to Lively as a secondary distributor changes the game. Sometimes he'd dunk it. Sometimes it was a little hook thing. Sometimes he'd have an excellent view to kick it out to guys at the three. The threat of his passing actually opened it up for him more too. Lively and Luka were easily the best players on the court and had the best chemistry.

2) Mavs still struggle to shoot threes sometimes. There was a moment where even my partner was like, "Lively is there for a dunk. Why did they pass it out to the three?" They missed the three and Suns went on to take the lead. I wonder if the easy two (oop) would have been better than so many possessions with zero. Again, crazy good execution and the guys were open, but we just go cold sometimes.

3) Luka is a god. Sat with a group of Mavs fans and we all cheered when he hit 10,000pts, tying Bob McAdoo. 50-6-14 is a crazy line. Lively is going to cut into those rebounds for the triple-double sometimes.

4) Grayson Allen is the most punchable guy in the NBA. He averaged 12 and went off last night. I guess I'm glad that Kidd's coaching slowed Durant and Booker, but Mavs love to have a no name guy go off. If they lost, I would be so sore that Allen was the guy that did it. Luckily he shot himself out of rhythm by shooting so many open shots.

5) Got a great look at the defense in the second half and it was so strange. I really don't get how Mavs can both leave a three point shooter on the baseline open AND a lob threat. It really should have failed us, but either Kidd did good or the Suns just suck that much.

6) Kyrie was joking and walking around out there. I can't imagine he's far from return.

7) Green was at the very edge of the seats and he looked completely disengaged. Team members didn't even acknowledge him. For a solid player he seems to be on clearance rack for trades right now.

8) Williams looked totally lost to start the game. He looked like he took a flagrant shot to the head in the second half and took offense. It was on the other side of the court so yall may have seen it better, but it looked bad. Threw hands at Booker and I thought he was getting ejected but it was a double tech. After that he had 2-3 good defensive possessions and two good drives for scores-- then Kidd immediately benched him after his first productive stretch.

9) Exum was disappointing. Even had a play where he drove and there was no help so he should have scored, but he turned around to pass it out. 7-5-4 is still good, but he just looked off.

10) DJJ is the man. He was the guy getting the kick all through the third and fourth and he was missing, but when Luka was getting doubled, he just has a supernatural way to use his athleticism and dexterity to make teams pay. Really phenomenal put-back and finally made a dagger three to secure it. We did good with him. Really hope we keep him, because we need more DJJs around Luka (defensive, athletic, can score without gravity) than guys like THJ (all offense, little defense)

11) No Holmes or Morris. That's all.

12) Curry came out and did nothing. Kidd looked like he had to play him when everyone else was missing their threes. He made some crazy threes, but only after the whistle. He's a nice luxury, but didn't produce tonight.

13) Suns fans suck. They were filling the aisle leaving when the Mavs went up seven. Crazy. I got some good footage and it made me happy to see them turning tail.
Exum might have been trying too hard given the stage. Hes usually more patient and makes better decisions.

Grant vs Booker was minor. I didnt see any hands thrown. It was well timed IMO, as far as the flow of momentum
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Luka was pissed that reporters didn't ask him about his defense. I would be too. He has actually been good on that end when not worn down.

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Kyrie coming back should allow him to play more of it. Guy can't do everything...well he usually does.
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Yes, Grant Williams needs to be our PJ Tucker. I really don't care as much about the made threes. I want toughness and defense.

His defense has been basically non-existent this season otherwise. Maybe it's the system change? But he was a good defender in Boston unless we were all being fooled.
That's a good comp...hope he can live up to it because a PJ Tucker would be exactly what this team needs.
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7pts on the year and 10 assists n the first half
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Man Kidd likes to leave the wings wide open from three

Okoro 8pts on 35% shooting now has 14pts on 75% from three
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Okoro 8pts on 35% shooting now has 14pts on 75% from three
It drives me nuts that not only are they open from 3, there?s no one within 10 feet many of the times.
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Looking at schedule, including tonight, 18 of the next 22 games are against teams that are .500 or above?

And one of those four under .500 is the Grizz which are playing above .500 with Ja.

Kyrie needs to come back asap
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