PGT: Mavs repeatedly leave shooters wide open, get goaltended, get Curry'd

[Five-ofan]

I complain about a lot of things Carlisle does, but he's absolutely a great coach. Either the best or second best xs and os coach in the league. And he's been a coach of literally every kind of team and been good at it. His pistons/pacers were great defensive teams. His mavs teams have been great offensive teams. He's dealt with teams with enough talent that egos could be a problem and he's coached up undertalented teams.

He still makes rotation decisions that drive me crazy.

[Jack.Kerr]

Originally Posted by DirkMFFL

I think oilfieldtrash is related to Rick Carlisle. How could you defend Rick after blowing so many 14+ leads this year and then today allow Dalembert to only play 7 minutes. He picked 6'6" Dejuan Blair over 7'0" Dalembert. Rick needs to go. You really want to keep a coach that will most likely be in the lottery for back to back seasons? Mavericks have only gotten worse since 2011. Doesn't look like they are improving with Carlisle.

Jermaine O'Neal started and played 33 minutes, scoring 20 points.

Dalembert started the game and the second half, but logged only 7 minutes combined; Blair only had 11 minutes, and didn't even come in until Q4. Brandan Wright had 25 minutes. (Dirk had 40 as the other 'big' Mav.)

Apparently neither Dalembert (-15) nor Blair (+4) was particularly effective, but they only account for about half the story of how 35-year old Jermaine O'Neal comes in and scores a near-season-high 20 points. (He had 23 v. BKN about 6 weeks ago.) O'Neal did most of his damage against Wright, not Blair.

I saw Donnie Nelson patting himself on the back the other day about what a good acquisition he'd made in Dalembert, and how Dalembert would definitely be back next season. I know that the Warriors game is a little bit of a special case, and that Dalembert has shown a pulse the last month or so, but Dalembert has 'Career Underachiever' written all over him, and will be either a backup or a patch for however long his NBA career lasts. You have to wonder how much Carlisle really trusts him to show up night in and night out. And when Carlisle has to use the too-skinny Wright and too-short Blair to counter a worn-out Jermaine O'Neal....well, you get last night. it's a roster issue, not a rotation issue.

Separately, the missed goaltending call looked like a tough live-action call from the baseline angle where Dan Crawford (I think) was, as much as I hate to give him the benefit of the doubt. But it was a clear goaltend from the far-baseline angle, and TWO other officials missed that call as well. Spare us all the BS line about the shot going to be 2-feet short--there's NO way they can tell that, and it just further erodes and corrodes their credibility for them to be spewing that kind of obvious CYA nonsense.

It sure seems like the 'better' team generally gets the benefit of the doubt in those situations (Mavs v. T'Wolves, Mavs v. Pelicans, and now Warriors v. Mavs).

Bottom line: it shouldn't have come down to that, and if you're looking for NBA officials to make a game-deciding call in your favor in order to win, you're on thin ice to begin with, because for better and for worse, they don't want to be the game-deciders. I've wanted to see 'less officiating' for a while now, and if this is what we're going to get with 'less officiating', then I'd just as soon see it done with 2 zebras instead of 3. If 3 sets of NBA officials' eyes are going to miss that call, you have to wonder how many it would take watching the game to ensure that kind of call doesn't get missed. Will be interesting to see if the NBA 'fesses up. Frankly, I don't expect to hear a word from the league about that call.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Just seems like defense doesn't exist with anyone on this team. They'll go through spurts like they get it, and then just decide it isn't worth it anymore. Focus and effort don't need to be natural talents, and the team loses complete focus on defense.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by markus1234

Casey, Stotts and Kidd will make the playoffs. Rick won't. And it's not only on Cuban...

Casey, Kidd will make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference.

[HopeIsAlwaysThere]

And remember the technical fouls call on Mavs against the clippers, and Griffin keep fouling Dirk, all is no call.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by markus1234

Casey, Stotts and Kidd will make the playoffs. Rick won't. And it's not only on Cuban...

Even if we ignore the roster that the Blazers have vs. the roster we have,

Stotts - .645
Carlisle - .587
Casey - .568
Kidd - .548

We still have the second best record among those four coaches and would be THIRD place in the East by record. Let's not manipulate reality.

[LonghornDub]

NBA officially announced that it should have been a goaltend:

http://www.nba.com/official/

[Jack.Kerr]

And not a word about O'Neal's subsequent travel.

Basically a nyah-nyah to Cuban from the league office.

[HopeIsAlwaysThere]

As I said, forget this, and move on to the Clippers game, GO MAVS! We will fight till the end!

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by DirkMFFL

I think oilfieldtrash is related to Rick Carlisle. How could you defend Rick after blowing so many 14+ leads this year and then today allow Dalembert to only play 7 minutes. He picked 6'6" Dejuan Blair over 7'0" Dalembert. Rick needs to go. You really want to keep a coach that will most likely be in the lottery for back to back seasons? Mavericks have only gotten worse since 2011. Doesn't look like they are improving with Carlisle.

You can defend rick because this team kinda sucks. It is entirely possible that rick is the reason we are sniffing 50 wins, not holding the team back.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

NBA officially announced that it should have been a goaltend:

http://www.nba.com/official/

[HopeIsAlwaysThere]

Originally Posted by dude1394

You can defend rick because this team kinda sucks. It is entirely possible that rick is the reason we are sniffing 50 wins, not holding the team back.

Our defense kinda sucks, that's the point, Rick is trying his best to put the best match up nights in and nights out, he is our best coach ever, and lead us to the top

[NewMexiMav]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

NBA officially announced that it should have been a goaltend:

http://www.nba.com/official/

Yeah, hurts to miss that one.

[ffballer]

Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Then by all means fire Carlisle today. I mean Monte f ing Mathis. That is a guaranteed title or two. I mean look at all his other accomplishments in the nba.

hey mr sarcasm first of all i didnt implied that mathis was a great coach i just said the most probably thing that d happend, and second,now that we re on the subject yes mathis can be a great coach, just because he is the assistant coach doesnt mean he isnt cut to take the full leading of a nba team, if hes there hes got to know sth about basketball

[ffballer]

Originally Posted by NewMexiMav

Yeah, hurts to miss that one.

unfreaking believeable are these blind refs being fined for this?