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Which player shall rise from mediocrity?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...a2010_breakout
Juat wonedring what some of you though on this?? Before I opened it I was sure that Harris might be the top pick and hes not even there. That could be that hes better than most of those guys, but i dont think thats completly true and hes defenitly got room for improvement. I am saying that i m surprised that hes not there.
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09-26-2006, 01:52 AM
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I think those are actually some decent picks, I think J.R. Smith would be my pick. I think going to Denver will help him a lot.
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09-26-2006, 08:01 AM
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gerald wallace is a horrible pick. He is already a top 50 player in the nba. Could he get better? Yes but he cant make the quantum leap that diaw did because hes already good...
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09-26-2006, 01:52 PM
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09-26-2006, 03:48 PM
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I would also say that JR Smith is probably a good pik....i think he'll have a chnace to break out in Denver.
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"It feels disrespectful when you watch these shows, TNT, ESPN, and they're talking, 'Walk through the Mavericks, that's who you want to play," Terry said. "OK. We'll see if that's who you want to play." ........GO MAVS |
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09-26-2006, 04:32 PM
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09-26-2006, 08:07 PM
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Harris doesn't qualify as mediocre and neither does Gerald Wallace.
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09-26-2006, 08:09 PM
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Man, all this Gerald Wallace though, tap them breaks. No one else subscribes to the "player putting up big numbers on a bad team" philosophy anymore?
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"He's as valuable as anyone. The most unusual thing is that they lose last year's MVP and still get better. It's unheard of." "For a team as good as the Mavs, the regular season is just 82 practice games until the real season begins." -G-Man "We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people." |
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09-26-2006, 09:44 PM
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He's barely above average and it's shocks me that people compare him to JHO. It's ALOT harder to put up numbers on a bad team. And your numbers are skewed big time if a lot of your points come on easy dunks and layups created by teammates. Remember how great he was with the Kings?
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09-26-2006, 10:49 PM
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"He's as valuable as anyone. The most unusual thing is that they lose last year's MVP and still get better. It's unheard of." "For a team as good as the Mavs, the regular season is just 82 practice games until the real season begins." -G-Man "We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people." |
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09-26-2006, 10:55 PM
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I'm not so sure harris isn't better after seeing him in the spurs series. He outplayed one of the best point guards in the league that has won it all before. Performances like that change a lot of peoples minds.
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09-26-2006, 11:10 PM
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09-26-2006, 11:17 PM
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I never said better than Harris. I find it amusing people compare Wallace to JHO. JHO is a really good 2nd option on a top 3 team who's well on his way to becoming a star while Wallace is a stat padder on a bad team.
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09-27-2006, 06:42 AM
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gerald wallace owns
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I'd love to see Josh have a breakout year - I think he has the makings of a superstar, he just hasn't learned how to put it all together yet... [although that statement probably applies to a sizeable amount of players in the NBA...]
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09-27-2006, 06:18 PM
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I honestly can't imagine how people call Gerald Wallace an "above average" player when he averaged 2 blocks/2 steals last season. If Josh was doing that, the homers here with their blinders would be saying that he should have won DPOY hands down. It's ridiculous. I've never said anything closely resembling "Gerald Wallace is a way better player than Josh" but I definitely think he's every bit as good, and in my estimation, probably a little bit better.
Say what you want about him shooting a high percentage because most of his shots are assisted; isn't that the same for most swingmen that shoot a high percentage? But the dude is putting up numbers that honestly compare VERY favorably to Josh's, and some people here won't even put them in the same atmosphere. It's ridiculous. The whole "padding his stats on a bad team" argument is incredibly lame to me, too.. I actually feel that it's tougher to put up good numbers on a team where you don't have a lot of scorers/talent (period) on the team. How in the world would it be easy? If he was shooting something like 43% and taking a pretty high percentage of his teams' shots in a game, I could see the argument. But Gerald has been efficient as hell the past couple of seasons, and I don't think it's by accident. He may very well be the most athletic player in the entire league, bar none. |
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Bradley's going to return from retirement and have a breakout year
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"He's as valuable as anyone. The most unusual thing is that they lose last year's MVP and still get better. It's unheard of." "For a team as good as the Mavs, the regular season is just 82 practice games until the real season begins." -G-Man "We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people." |
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09-28-2006, 01:56 AM
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darko......
I just made myself laugh.
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bowie's stats http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bowiesa01.html Here are Darko's numbers since being given a chance with orlando http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3705 Darko was one of the big reasons why orlando made a huge playoff push at the end of the season...That..and trading stevie franchise! 30 games 20.9 minutes per game 50.8% shooting from field 7.6 points 4.1 rebounds 2.1 blocks!!!!! 1.1 assists if you calculate that to 35 minutes per game he has about 14 points, 7.5 reounds, 3.5 blocks!! That is pretty good. Keep in mind, he is only 21 years old. I would trade half the centers in the league... in a heartbeat for this guy. Last edited by nikeball; 09-28-2006 at 01:01 PM. |
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09-28-2006, 12:58 PM
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oh. and I think darko rises from mediocrity this year
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