Clippers/Mavs - the Reclippening (GDT) - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

EricaLubarsky · 02-12-2022, 12:40 PM

Injuries
THJ - out
Chriss - out
new guys - available
Sterling - available
KP - out (but for the Wizards this time)

dirt_dobber · 02-12-2022, 01:23 PM

Thanks EL for taking care of this board.
I hope the new guys get a little playing time tonight.
Mavs favored by 6.5 again.
I bet they trap Luka early and often - time for a 20 assist game (NBA record is 30)

Melonhead · 02-12-2022, 04:58 PM

Lol got me with the KP injury update

Saw a clip of him on ig he was doing $100 bets on shooting from the stands in his new wizards jersey. Seemed happy.

Also made the shot

G-Man · 02-12-2022, 05:47 PM

Looking forward to the now, slightly improved, Mavs. The new guys should help bring back some of the 40 points of scoring we lost with KP and THJ. Plus, on any given night, we couldn't count on either one to do squat, since KP is likely to be hurt and THJ is as likely to score 6 as he is to get 22.

Dinwiddie is a major upgrade as the third guard. When we need defense, we have Frank. For offense, there's Trey...who is the next to go if we need a spot for a buyout guy.

No hard feelings towards KP. When healthy this year, he's been very good. Not his fault he's got bad wheels. From Shawn Bradley to Yao Ming, the history of the league is littered with the remains of skinny guys over 7 feet who's legs could not withstand the pounding of playing 30 NBA minutes a night.

Time to move on. Let's go Mavs.

EricaLubarsky · 02-12-2022, 07:24 PM

New guys inactive.

KP’s doctor doing the physical

FreshJive · 02-12-2022, 08:55 PM

Hostile act? His arm came down from being pushed. That’s the craziest call I’ve ever seen.

FreshJive · 02-12-2022, 09:01 PM

How was that a travel?

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:11 PM

what's up with all the dumb passes

There's been like 3-4 straight silly passes because dude is trying to make highlight reel tape instead of a simple basic pass

JTmoney2424 · 02-12-2022, 10:29 PM

4 bench points 4 min into the 4th. Not gonna win many games like that

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:30 PM

Team is in a world of trouble if Luka doesn't play lights out.

Just not enough offense especially vs good defensive teams

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:35 PM

Even without Leonard and George the Clippers just seem like a bad matchup for Dallas.

It's a good thing the Mavs get to avoid them in the 1st round this year

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:37 PM

and the Mavs still can't hit FT's when it matters

JTmoney2424 · 02-12-2022, 10:43 PM

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and the Mavs still can't hit FT's when it matters

As unreliable Kp was with his health, it’s hurts to lose a lockdown FT shooter in close games.

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:48 PM

Typical mavs bullshit

Get out rebounded on a missed FT late in a game

Let jackson and Mann look like All-Stars

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:49 PM

Kleber just stood there and watched Mann drive

JTmoney2424 · 02-12-2022, 10:50 PM

Kleber is just unplayable at the 5. This team needs a center. Any team in the playoffs with a true center will give them problems

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:51 PM

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Kleber is just unplayable at the 5. This team needs a center. Any team in the playoffs with a true center will give them problems

I know I just don't understand why they didn't grab one of those Wizzards young centers and tbh I like DFS playing PF

He's too small to be playing extensive minutes at the 4

FreshJive · 02-12-2022, 10:53 PM

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I know I just don't understand why they didn't grab one of those Wizzards young centers

They weren’t offering them, obviously. The Mavs had to give up a pick just to get what they got.

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:55 PM

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They weren’t offering them, obviously. The Mavs had to give up a pick just to get what they got.

You might be right

I just hate the fact we got to rely on Powell and Kleber in the playoffs

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 10:57 PM

Freaking poor stretch in that 3rd qtr with all those turnovers and their missed FT's might just help the Clippers win this game.

This team needs to get that 4th seed

JTmoney2424 · 02-12-2022, 11:00 PM

Letting 5 seconds run off the clock ok that inbound pass doomed them. Brunson can’t let that happen.

Melonhead · 02-12-2022, 11:00 PM

Ugh

Bullock looked wide open too

Stylistic · 02-12-2022, 11:01 PM

Man that goaltending call comes back to haunt. I say that as I thought that was a bad call. But that didn't cost the Mavs the game tonight.

JTmoney2424 · 02-12-2022, 11:02 PM

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Freaking poor stretch in that 3rd qtr with all those turnovers and their missed FT's might just help the Clippers win this game.

This team needs to get that 4th seed

Can you see them winning a 7 game series vs any of the top 4 seeds with this roster? They have played well against Memphis but they have had guys out on both wins.

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 11:04 PM

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Letting 5 seconds run off the clock ok that inbound pass doomed them. Brunson can’t let that happen.

It's just little basic things this team can't seem to get right.

Go back to the Luka blown defensive assignment I think vs OKC where he totally loses his man under the basket

Now tonight Brunson has to be ready to defend the backcourt pass

Plus, they have a knack for getting careless with the ball and erratic FT shooting not to mention boxing out at the FT line.

Even without Leonard and George the Clippers are still a bad matchup for Dallas.

FreshJive · 02-12-2022, 11:05 PM

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You might be right

I just hate the fact we got to rely on Powell and Kleber in the playoffs

Not sure Bryant would be amazing either, and I don’t think it’s likely Gafford was up for offer.

Dallas41 · 02-12-2022, 11:06 PM

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Ugh

Bullock looked wide open too

Yeah, he was and I thought Luka was going to immediately swing the ball to him since the clippers left him wide open

Melonhead · 02-12-2022, 11:17 PM

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Can you see them winning a 7 game series vs any of the top 4 seeds with this roster? They have played well against Memphis but they have had guys out on both wins.

Jazz is the only one

Melonhead · 02-12-2022, 11:26 PM

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Yeah, he was and I thought Luka was going to immediately swing the ball to him since the clippers left him wide open

His hate for the clippers clouds his judgement lol

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-12-2022, 11:27 PM

Glad DFS and Kleber combined for 3 points.

Dallas41 · 02-13-2022, 01:13 AM

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Not sure Bryant would be amazing either, and I don’t think it’s likely Gafford was up for offer.

Well here's why they need to find someone via the buy out market

Points in the paint
One area where the now departed Kristaps Porzingis helped the Mavericks a ton this year was at the rim. Now the Mavericks are essentially a 7/11 when it comes to allowing points in the painted area. The Clippers scored 54 of their 99 points right there. Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell aren’t going to cut it. I know that may shock those of you who’ve watched this team since the pre-pandemic era.

FreshJive · 02-13-2022, 01:27 AM

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Well here's why they need to find someone via the buy out market

Points in the paint
One area where the now departed Kristaps Porzingis helped the Mavericks a ton this year was at the rim. Now the Mavericks are essentially a 7/11 when it comes to allowing points in the painted area. The Clippers scored 54 of their 99 points right there. Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell aren’t going to cut it. I know that may shock those of you who’ve watched this team since the pre-pandemic era.

They are going to miss that from him for sure.

dirt_dobber · 02-13-2022, 06:21 AM

a grand total of 4 points from our bench tonight??
AND 3 from DFS in 39 minutes played.
Ugh we need the newly acquired guys pronto.

FreshJive · 02-13-2022, 08:44 AM

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a grand total of 4 points from our bench tonight??
AND 3 from DFS in 39 minutes played.
Ugh we need the newly acquired guys pronto.

The amount of points that dfs scored is not an important stat fyi imo

SMC0007 · 02-13-2022, 09:24 AM

This was more like what the playoffs will look like on average from the Mavs. Unless Dinwiddie changes things. We know who we can count on and the most likely guys to dissappear. If the Clips didn't miss a ton of shots they could have blown us out.

Kleber is fucking unplayable at times. How does he still get lost and out of position on both ends? He's not ready and in position to shoot after pNr and seems disengaged in general at random.

JB had a good bounce back game.

DFS has to be more assertive. Good God 3pts and 2 rebs? That's straight garbage.

I'm not saying all of our playoff games will be more like this and not like when we are streaking and playing well but I'd bet the team tightens up except Luka and if we're lucky. Kleber is deer in headlights in those moments and that sht bothers me. I hate that we have to rely on him so heavily.

SMC0007 · 02-13-2022, 09:30 AM

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Yeah, he was and I thought Luka was going to immediately swing the ball to him since the clippers left him wide open

Bullock was not Wide open. Covington was there and Jackson immediately filled the gap off the inbound.

Dallas41 · 02-13-2022, 12:07 PM

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This was more like what the playoffs will look like on average from the Mavs. Unless Dinwiddie changes things. We know who we can count on and the most likely guys to dissappear. If the Clips didn't miss a ton of shots they could have blown us out.

Kleber is fucking unplayable at times. How does he still get lost and out of position on both ends? He's not ready and in position to shoot after pNr and seems disengaged in general at random.

JB had a good bounce back game.

DFS has to be more assertive. Good God 3pts and 2 rebs? That's straight garbage.

I'm not saying all of our playoff games will be more like this and not like when we are streaking and playing well but I'd bet the team tightens up except Luka and if we're lucky. Kleber is deer in headlights in those moments and that sht bothers me. I hate that we have to rely on him so heavily.

Found this to be spot on from that article I posted in the KP trade thread

Luka is surrounded, by all accounts, by nice guys. He enjoys going to the club with ⁠these dudes — Maxi Kleiber, Josh Green, and his bestie, Boban Marjanović. But these are guys no other team wants. Those fun teammate vibes will only get the Mavs and Dončić so far. If he is a generational talent, most believe him to be — failing to advance in the playoffs has already begun to eat at him.

The inability to get anything beyond a Porziņģis deal done proved that. Instead, the Mavericks are chock full of glorified role players who only look good playing next to a generational talent like Dončić. Half of them wouldn’t make an NBA roster elsewhere.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-13-2022, 12:55 PM

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Found this to be spot on from that article I posted in the KP trade thread

Luka is surrounded, by all accounts, by nice guys. He enjoys going to the club with ⁠these dudes — Maxi Kleiber, Josh Green, and his bestie, Boban Marjanović. But these are guys no other team wants. Those fun teammate vibes will only get the Mavs and Dončić so far. If he is a generational talent, most believe him to be — failing to advance in the playoffs has already begun to eat at him.

The inability to get anything beyond a Porziņģis deal done proved that. Instead, the Mavericks are chock full of glorified role players who only look good playing next to a generational talent like Dončić. Half of them wouldn’t make an NBA roster elsewhere.

Which is why it puzzles me how many people cheer on the DFS extension. Like yippee, another overpaid role player where we aren't a contender. And the idea that him only scoring 3 points doesn't matter is bonkers stupid.

Again, DFS and Kleber are players that are great to have on your team when you have 2-3 superstars. When you don't, their deficiencies are as glaring as staring directly into the sun. Esp Kleber who if he has another bad playoffs needs to be gone the day the season ends.

The weak link is Mark Cuban. He goes back on pretty much anything that comes out of his mouth, so you can't take him seriously.

Dallas41 · 02-13-2022, 02:01 PM

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Which is why it puzzles me how many people cheer on the DFS extension. Like yippee, another overpaid role player where we aren't a contender. And the idea that him only scoring 3 points doesn't matter is bonkers stupid.

Again, DFS and Kleber are players that are great to have on your team when you have 2-3 superstars. When you don't, their deficiencies are as glaring as staring directly into the sun. Esp Kleber who if he has another bad playoffs needs to be gone the day the season ends.

The weak link is Mark Cuban. He goes back on pretty much anything that comes out of his mouth, so you can't take him seriously.

I like DFS but that new contract was an overspend once again.

I don't think THJ should have got what he got and I don't think Brunson is worth 18-20 million.

Luka is getting close to 5 years in the league and he doesn't have a legit 3rd option let alone a 2nd option.

Mavs might win one playoff series but I fear winning that one series will make Cuban think this roster just still needs time.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-13-2022, 02:13 PM

The x factor, naturally, is Dinwiddie. I like that he was candid about the time frame of coming back from his injury, but too many times do we say "well, next year" with this team. We can't keep going on for ages waiting for players to come around. It's unfair, but we need prime Dinwiddie today.

The good news with him is that even in a down shooting year, he can still pass and rebound at a reasonably high level. Can always use that.