GDT: Mavs vs Nuggets......pt. 3 - Page 6 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

b_o_r · 02-15-2012, 10:40 PM

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Will Roddy be emotionally ready to play Friday? Otherwise there are only three guards, Kidd, Carter, and Jones...

sorry to be a downer..

I doubt he is back before a week.

Thespiralgoeson · 02-15-2012, 10:42 PM

Jeez, are Denver's scrubs really this much better than our scrubs?

Rick41 · 02-15-2012, 10:43 PM

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Jeez, are Denver's scrubs really this much better than our scrubs?

I think they're just actually trying.

Our dudes seem to be half assing everything right now.

Rick41 · 02-15-2012, 10:44 PM

Injury bug raping the Mavs right now.

some1nw · 02-15-2012, 10:44 PM

gosh Cardinal got a huge head

CadBane · 02-15-2012, 10:44 PM

Remember when people argued with me and Fin that it was perfectly reasonable to give Yi minutes over Wright?

LSMF · 02-15-2012, 10:45 PM

Odom and Ian work great together.

b_o_r · 02-15-2012, 10:47 PM

LOL
I thought Jones was about to get the Derek Fisher treatment from Brewer.

b_o_r · 02-15-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Remember when people argued with me and Fin that it was perfectly reasonable to give Yi minutes over Wright?

I think you wanted him to get minutes at the 4 which still hasn't been the case. Wright is cutting into the center minutes. Yi ain't going to see time unless Dirk or Lamar goes down.

Jon Avalon · 02-15-2012, 10:50 PM

Yi!!!

CadBane · 02-15-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

I think you wanted him to get minutes at the 4 which still hasn't been the case. Wright is cutting into the center minutes. Yi ain't going to see time unless Dirk or Lamar goes down.

You think wrong, actually. Nice revisionist history though. I said BW should be getting 10 MPG or so, period (be it at the 4 or 5).

some1nw · 02-15-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

LOL
I thought Jones was about to get the Derek Fisher treatment from Brewer.

yeah lol but he didnt get the elevation he had when he posterized Fishman

AO41 · 02-15-2012, 10:56 PM

There at the end with 2.....3s. You can see why YI can be a huge asset for this team. I think YI and Wright will be here for a while especially if we go big for Dwight and Deron next summer.

LSMF · 02-15-2012, 10:56 PM

Great win tonight.

CadBane · 02-15-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

There at the end with 2.....3s. You can see why YI can be a huge asset for this team. I think YI and Wright will be here for a while especially if we go big for Dwight and Deron next summer.

Yi is garbage.

Rick41 · 02-15-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Yi is garbage.

Earl K. Sneed always gets a boner for Yi, it's kind of annoying.

AO41 · 02-15-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Yi is garbage.

I dont get into these discussions with you Cad...you should know that

But if you end up with

Dwight/ Wright/ YI
Dirk/ YI/ Wright

....sounds pretty good to me...because Wright and YI are both still young and cheap.

CadBane · 02-15-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

I dont get into these discussions with you Cad...you should know that

But if you end up with

Dwight/ Wright/ YI
Dirk/ YI/ Wright

....sounds pretty good to me...because Wright and YI are both still young and cheap.

It doesn't matter how young and cheap someone is when they're garbage.

AO41 · 02-15-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

It doesn't matter how young and cheap someone is when they're garbage.

grndmstr_c · 02-16-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Remember when people argued with me and Fin that it was perfectly reasonable to give Yi minutes over Wright?

You mean, at PF?

CadBane · 02-16-2012, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

You mean, at PF?

No...minutes period. You want me to bump it? Hilarious.

cowboyuptx · 02-16-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Yi is garbage.

He's certainly not garbage for being an end of the bench guy, same goes for Cardinal... One thing Yi has going for him, he's shown that he can knock down that 18 footer from his spot with great consistency, and it's a shot that can be often available for him... He's got a nice stroke, as evidenced by the three's he hit last night... I also like the effort that he puts forth, he's not the best at driving the rim, but that wont stop him from trying to attack the rim off a pump fake... And for whatever reason, the fans in the crowd naturally respond to him, and that's always a good thing...

I'm just saying that he's perfect for the role he's playing... The Rick divides the minutes pretty well, which is important for a team that plans on using the entire bench, even in the playoffs... This is how we won the championship last year, strength in numbers and playing the match-ups...

Why all this splitting hairs over minutes for this guy or that guy? The team is playing well, so why change what's working? Trust Rick, trust the players, they got this... We're still the best team! We have the best coach, the best finisher, the smartest player and a smart team overall, the most experience, the most momentum, the best bench, and the best 1-12 in the association! Be confident Mav fans, things are looking great right now, enjoy it...

grndmstr_c · 02-16-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

No...minutes period. You want me to bump it? Hilarious.

You realize you just quoted two statements of yours in which you were advocating Brandan getting minutes at PF? Who's playing revisionist history now?

At any rate, I wasn't talking about what you said. I was talking about what others said, and for the most part the opinions given by posters other than you and Fin (and certainly my own opinions) were position-specific, just as Yi and Brandan's minutes have been.

All that said, Brandan is absolutely justifying the faith you and Fin had in him with his play (at C) right now. You'll get no arguments there.

CadBane · 02-16-2012, 04:54 PM

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You realize you just quoted two statements of yours in which you were advocating Brandan getting minutes at PF? Who's playing revisionist history now?

At any rate, I wasn't talking about what you said. I was talking about what others said, and for the most part the opinions given by posters other than you and Fin (and certainly my own opinions) were position-specific, just as Yi and Brandan's minutes have been.

All that said, Brandan is absolutely justifying the faith you and Fin had in him with his play (at C) right now. You'll get no arguments there.

Holy shit! Can you not read? Maybe you're actually illiterate? I literally bolded comments stating that Wright should get some of Ian's minutes...

CadBane · 02-16-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cowboyuptx

One thing Yi has going for him, he's shown that he can knock down that 18 footer from his spot with great consistency, and it's a shot that can be often available for him...

Dude...that's just blatantly and patently false. You know people can fact check this stuff, right?

Yi is shooting an eFG% of 39% on jumpers this year.

His TS% is an atrocious 46% (47% for his career).

He is simply put, an awful, awful offensive player. He's never had positive offensive win shares in his life. I really couldn't care less about him as an end of the bench guy. My comment was in reference to a poster asserting something as ludicrous as Yi being a "big piece" of the future.

dude1394 · 02-16-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Dude...that's just blatantly and patently false. You know people can fact check this stuff, right?

Yi is shooting an eFG% of 39% on jumpers this year.

His TS% is an atrocious 46% (47% for his career).

He is simply put, an awful, awful offensive player. He's never had positive offensive win shares in his life. I really couldn't care less about him as an end of the bench guy. My comment was in reference to a poster asserting something as ludicrous as Yi being a "big piece" of the future.

He was 66% last game

CadBane · 02-16-2012, 05:01 PM

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He was 66% last game

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grndmstr_c · 02-16-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Holy shit! Can you not read? Maybe you're actually illiterate? I literally bolded comments stating that Wright should get some of Ian's minutes...

So your response to: "At any rate, I wasn't talking about what you said", basically consists of you continuing to talk about what you said, which I specifically said I wasn't interested in, while at the same time accusing me of not being able to read? Really?

dude1394 · 02-16-2012, 09:10 PM

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So your response to: "At any rate, I wasn't talking about what you said", basically consists of you continuing to talk about what you said, which I specifically said I wasn't interested in, while at the same time accusing me of not being able to read? Really?

Grndmstr_c was 66% correct this time.

cowboyuptx · 02-16-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Dude...that's just blatantly and patently false. You know people can fact check this stuff, right?

Yi is shooting an eFG% of 39% on jumpers this year.

His TS% is an atrocious 46% (47% for his career).

He is simply put, an awful, awful offensive player. He's never had positive offensive win shares in his life. I really couldn't care less about him as an end of the bench guy. My comment was in reference to a poster asserting something as ludicrous as Yi being a "big piece" of the future.

I said he's very consistent "from his spot"... You know, that jumper he likes to take near the top of the key, and from what I've seen, he hits that shot more often than not... Also, I stand by what I said, for a guy that's a third or fourth option at the 4 or the 5, Yi fits that bill well...

I'm just saying, we have a good team, there's no need to bag on any of our players... Just as it was last season, if we are going to repeat, then it will take contributions from every player on the team, even guys like Yi and Cardinal...

CadBane · 02-16-2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

So your response to: "At any rate, I wasn't talking about what you said", basically consists of you continuing to talk about what you said, which I specifically said I wasn't interested in, while at the same time accusing me of not being able to read? Really?

You...don't really get it, do you? You said I bumped quotes about Wright only getting more minutes at the 4. That simply wasn't the case.

CadBane · 02-16-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cowboyuptx

I said he's very consistent "from his spot"... You know, that jumper he likes to take near the top of the key, and from what I've seen, he hits that shot more often than not... Also, I stand by what I said, for a guy that's a third or fourth option at the 4 or the 5, Yi fits that bill well...

I'm just saying, we have a good team, there's no need to bag on any of our players... Just as it was last season, if we are going to repeat, then it will take contributions from every player on the team, even guys like Yi and Cardinal...

Well...he's NOT consistent from "his spot". Unless you think every jumper he makes is "his spot", and the near 70% he misses are "not his spot."

Again...I'm not bagging on him just to bag on him. He's fine as an end of the bench guy. Some of you seem to have trouble with simple reading comprehension. I only brought up Yi's struggles in rebuttal to the assertion that he would be a big part of the Mavs future.

AO41 · 02-16-2012, 11:58 PM

Cad ...YI played on 3 teams that were pretty bad the first few years of his career. He was asked to be the 3rd guy...maybe even second on those teams...and thats not what he is.

BUT the guy is VERSATILE and def. has talent. To have him on the bench is def. a bargain because of his versatility....I think he can be a very dependable 6th- 9th man in the league depending on the situation. And here he is what like the 10th 11th guy??

CadBane · 02-17-2012, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AO41

Cad ...YI played on 3 teams that were pretty bad the first few years of his career. He was asked to be the 3rd guy...maybe even second on those teams...and thats not what he is.

BUT the guy is VERSATILE and def. has talent. To have him on the bench is def. a bargain because of his versatility....I think he can be a very dependable 6th- 9th man in the league depending on the situation. And here he is what like the 10th 11th guy??

You just don't listen, lol.

HE IS FINE AS THE 10-11TH GUY.

For the 56767867 time, my post was in reference to you stating that he will ever be a "big part of the Mavs future." I respectfully must disagree that Yi will ever be more than an end of the bench guy on a winning team. The stats concur.

AO41 · 02-17-2012, 01:38 AM

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You just don't listen, lol.

HE IS FINE AS THE 10-11TH GUY.

For the 56767867 time, my post was in reference to you stating that he will ever be a "big part of the Mavs future." I respectfully must disagree that Yi will ever be more than an end of the bench guy on a winning team. The stats concur.

To a Championship team... every player 1-13 is probably important and has parts. As we saw with Stevenson. Brewer, Peja, and so on.

My first post was that if Dallas get Dwight...that

Dwight/ Wright/YI
Dirk/ YI/ Wright

...will be a very nice and versatile C and PF rotation.

CadBane · 02-17-2012, 02:41 AM

See, even if we get Dwight, Yi would have no business starting or being the primary backup.

grndmstr_c · 02-17-2012, 12:21 PM

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You...don't really get it, do you? You said I bumped quotes about Wright only getting more minutes at the 4. That simply wasn't the case.

No I didn't. The word "only" never came into what I said.