2009 NBA Offseason Thread - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

spreedom · 06-09-2009, 02:10 PM

We officially have our first trade!

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...ono_for_evans/

The Raptors will send Jason Kapono to Philly for Reggie Evans.

grndmstr_c · 06-09-2009, 03:14 PM

^ Makes sense for both teams.

Bayliss · 06-09-2009, 05:14 PM

Toronto definitely got some balls for making that deal.

jthig32 · 06-09-2009, 05:15 PM

The Raptors continue to be the only team that ever does anything before the draft. Very funny.

Bayliss · 06-09-2009, 05:19 PM

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The Raptors continue to be the only team that ever does anything before the draft. Very funny.

I think it is that whole exchange rate thingy they are worried about.

MavsFanFinley · 06-09-2009, 09:32 PM

I like the trade for Philly. Kapono is a nice Korver replacement.

MavsFanFinley · 06-09-2009, 11:25 PM

As a Kings fan I'm thrilled with hiring this head coach. Good job Maloofs.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

BGMaverick9 · 06-09-2009, 11:28 PM

I give him a season and a half before he's fired.

dirno2000 · 06-10-2009, 12:45 AM

He couldn't get his paperwork in fast enough:

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MIAMI -- Forwards Jermaine O'Neal and Yakhouba Diawara of the Miami Heat have exercised options to remain under contract for next season.

Both had contracts mandating they "opt in" for the final years of their deal. O'Neal will make nearly $23 million in 2009-10, while Diawara's salary is around $900,000.

O'Neal averaged 13.3 points and 6.4 rebounds this past season for the Heat and Toronto Raptors. Diawara, who started 21 games in his first season with Miami and third overall in the NBA, averaged 3.4 points per game.

TheMaverick · 06-10-2009, 12:55 AM

Kapono was a guy that I wanted us to pick up this offseason. He's a good Eddie Jordan player

MavsFanFinley · 06-10-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I give him a season and a half before he's fired.

It's quite possible but they need someone to inject some life into the team and get some fans back in the seats. It may have to start with someone who is more offensive minded than defensively and get that team running instead of dribbling the ball around. They have a nice young core and some picks this year to add to that as well.

BGMaverick9 · 06-10-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

It's quite possible but they need someone to inject some life into the team and get some fans back in the seats. It may have to start with someone who is more offensive minded than defensively and get that team running instead of dribbling the ball around. They have a nice young core and some picks this year to add to that as well.

They do have some good pieces but they are a long ways way from being considered a threat for the 8th seed or sniffing the playoffs. A team like Sacramento with owners that are bleeding money need quicker results than others usually demand.

alby · 06-11-2009, 11:31 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4252041

He writes pretty well for someone that wasn't smart enough to take his own SAT's!

MavsFanFinley · 06-12-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

They do have some good pieces but they are a long ways way from being considered a threat for the 8th seed or sniffing the playoffs. A team like Sacramento with owners that are bleeding money need quicker results than others usually demand.

I don't expect them in the playoffs this season but every rebuilding team has to start somewhere. They've put themselves in great position with trades they've made with a young core that has some experience at least. They'll be able to add 3 more pieces to that so the Maloofs will defenitely want to see some improvement this season for sure.

They have 4 starters locked in with Hawes, Thompson, Nocioni, and Martin. Westphal will play young guys and give rookies all the chances they can handle so I think Udrih moves to the bench should Rubio, Flynn, Holiday, Evans, whatever pg they select plays well enough to start.

The problem is filling out the bench. Udrih, Garcia, and Green is a nice start but they have some more work there.

BGMaverick9 · 06-12-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

I don't expect them in the playoffs this season but every rebuilding team has to start somewhere. They've put themselves in great position with trades they've made with a young core that has some experience at least. They'll be able to add 3 more pieces to that so the Maloofs will defenitely want to see some improvement this season for sure.

They have 4 starters locked in with Hawes, Thompson, Nocioni, and Martin. Westphal will play young guys and give rookies all the chances they can handle so I think Udrih moves to the bench should Rubio, Flynn, Holiday, Evans, whatever pg they select plays well enough to start.

The problem is filling out the bench. Udrih, Garcia, and Green is a nice start but they have some more work there.

Right, I agree with all of that...but I think it's going to take a pretty poised season or so to keep Paul in the HC spot. Sure they'll lose a lot of games but can they maybe beat some of those elite teams over the course of the year...can they stay close? Scott Brooks for the Thunder is who I'm thinking of who is a young coach who is probably being given the support and time for the situation to actually grow into something good, with other cases they're just not given the time.

So if there is only 1, 2, or 3 instances over the past few years where a coach is actually given some rope...it's hard to suggest that Paul can get the same window. I think it's even more difficult when the owners are bleeding money big time, they need change quick. That's not Westphal's problem...but it doesn't help his cause. Maybe it's a case where they do have the talent and the next coach ends up getting the credit because they "clicked" on his watch, that's happened before plenty of times.

MavsFanFinley · 06-12-2009, 12:39 PM

Is this the 4th head coach in the last 5 years?? Something ridiculous like that so I put that on the Maloofs more than the coaches.

Maybe I'm too optimistic because I think this is the best position the team has been in for a while. They finally have something to work with and build on.

BGMaverick9 · 06-13-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

Is this the 4th head coach in the last 5 years?? Something ridiculous like that so I put that on the Maloofs more than the coaches.

Maybe I'm too optimistic because I think this is the best position the team has been in for a while. They finally have something to work with and build on.

They definitely are in a better spot than they have been lately...but that stat you mentioned doesn't bode much confidence that he's got a good chance.

dude1394 · 06-13-2009, 10:38 AM

Ouch...

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5. San Antonio's desire to acquire one more big man (preferably a floor-stretching big man) to counter the Lakers and Boston is no secret.

The surprise stems from the rumbles I've heard about Detroit free-agent-to-be Rasheed Wallace having legit interest in joining the Spurs to team up with his 2005 NBA Finals nemesis Tim Duncan, with 'Sheed chief among the Pistons unsettled by the realization that big changes are undoubtedly coming in that locker room.

Don't see a real trade possibility here -- given that the Pistons are unlikely to take back anything other than expiring contracts for the expiring deals possessed by Wallace and Allen Iverson unless they have a chance to trade for someone like Stoudemire or Chris Bosh -- but it's something to file away for free agency.

Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. To e-mail him, click here.

MavsFanFinley · 06-13-2009, 11:59 AM

I thought that blew over already? There was some rumblings that Wallace asked for a buyout so he could join the Spurs and make a championshiop run this season.

I'm sure there is interest there but I'd be surprised if the Spurs offered the entire MLE which I'm sure it would take to get him. I could be wrong if they're desperate enough and are unable to make a small trade or two to get someone else.

alby · 06-13-2009, 12:32 PM

Boy, did we make the Spurs desperate or what =P

spreedom · 06-14-2009, 04:29 PM

Apparently the Cavs can get Shaq for Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic.

Seriously... we can't do better than that???

chumdawg · 06-14-2009, 04:33 PM

If he goes for that, it's because the two GM's are thick as thieves.

But then again, what we could offer wouldn't really be much more than that anyway.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-14-2009, 04:58 PM

Damp/Stack is a similar offer, but the Suns might want to send him east.

BGMaverick9 · 06-14-2009, 09:58 PM

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Damp/Stack is a similar offer, but the Suns might want to send him east.

That's probably our curse for the constant chasing of Shaq...he's always in our conference, we could definitely compete to get him but the teams don't want to have to face him 3-4 times and potentially in the playoffs.

MavsFanFinley · 06-14-2009, 10:04 PM

The Suns would be smart to send him East.

A headline on realgm suggests the Suns might be trying to trade both Shaq and Stoudamire this summer.

BGMaverick9 · 06-14-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

The Suns would be smart to send him East.

A headline on realgm suggests the Suns might be trying to trade both Shaq and Stoudamire this summer.

It looks like it's dump mode.
If you can't get Shaq, go for JRich.

spreedom · 06-16-2009, 07:44 AM

Jeannie Buss said that Phil Jackson WILL return next year to coach the Lakers.

Blueprint79 · 06-16-2009, 04:09 PM

Sounds like early reports are that the Magic are definitely interested in keeping Turkoglu.

Underdog · 06-16-2009, 04:52 PM

Ya think?

(they'd be "92bDad-crazy" to let him go!)

CadBane · 06-16-2009, 06:43 PM

I read Cleveland wants to keep LeBron too.

Referee · 06-19-2009, 11:57 AM

Has the Turkish Prime Minister Racip Tayyip Erdoğan been informed of this???

dirk2003 · 06-19-2009, 03:16 PM

Rumor: Devin Harris for #2 pick..

Dirkenstien · 06-19-2009, 04:37 PM

Toronto is hoping to Sign and Trade Chris Bosh. Straight from the horse's mouth (Colangelo):

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...nd_trade_bosh/

Toronto general manager Bryan Colangelo feels as though the team's best course of action is to sign-and-trade Chris Bosh.

Bosh will become an unrestricted free agent after the 2009-10 season, which puts the Raptors in a difficult spot.

"We'll have the discussion, we'll talk about the pros and the cons, he'll most likely not sign it, and then we'll get in to next season, we'll figure out where we are," Colangelo said in an interview with The Fan 590 in Toronto.

"In respect to the situation for him, there will be a handful of teams next year - I'm guessing between five and ten - which will have maximum allowable free agent money, which means Chris is subject to walk to one of those deals. But, I have to reiterate the point that keeps being overlooked - we're the only team that can offer him a full six years versus five years, 10.5% increases versus 8% increases ... Basically equates to a $30 million dollar difference. So, even if he wants to leave, he's still better served, and we're better served if he works a sign-and-trade with us where we can get some sort of an asset back from the team that he's going to. And, I think that's probably the thing that we'll both push for because he'll benefit from it and we'll benefit from it, and that's why it's probably not time to panic now and make a bad deal."

TheMaverick · 06-19-2009, 07:51 PM

Let the rumors fly!

TomThaMavsFan · 06-19-2009, 09:02 PM

i hope so hard the Mavs are in the mix for Bosh, bringing him home would get the Mavs a proven scorer down in the post, and the tandem of bosh and nowitzki would be unstoppable. and send them josh while they're at it

TheMaverick · 06-19-2009, 09:24 PM

Bosh has a midrange game, he doesn't play much in the post. With that being said, I would love to have him.

craggmac · 06-22-2009, 09:50 AM

Get something done!

MavsFanFinley · 06-22-2009, 12:24 PM

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jon...June-22nd-3276

Various rumblings that are somewhat interesting.

Minnesota offered Mike Miller to the Clippers for Kaman but that was shot down. The Clippers countered with Camby instead.

Bobcats offering Raja Bell to the Warriors for Belinelli and Azubuike. Warriors would have to get Azubuike's consent though.

AxdemxO · 06-22-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jon...June-22nd-3276

Various rumblings that are somewhat interesting.

Minnesota offered Mike Miller to the Clippers for Kaman but that was shot down. The Clippers countered with Camby instead.

Bobcats offering Raja Bell to the Warriors for Belinelli and Azubuike. Warriors would have to get Azubuike's consent though.

That would be a terrible trade for the Ws in my opinion

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2009, 04:24 PM

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That would be a terrible trade for the Ws in my opinion

No kidding. I'm pretty sure the Ws aren't that stupid unless they are desperate to shed 'Buike's contract.

What the Miller for Kaman offer tells me is that lots of teams want Kaman. Sucks that there are so few true good centers in the league. Also seems like the Clippers would rather give up Camby if they had to choose.