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A record 106.5 million people watched the Super Bowl last night.

Am I alone in that I am not impressed by that at all? That means 200 million people weren't watching it. WTF were they all doing?
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Those that weren't at the extreme ends of the age spectrum were probably delivering pizza.

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A record 106.5 million people watched the Super Bowl last night.

Am I alone in that I am not impressed by that at all? That means 200 million people weren't watching it. WTF were they all doing?
I had it on the DVR and watched the commercials, skipping the game, until late in the 4th QTR.

Instead, I got caught up...surfing channels...and found myself sucked in to the reunion/concert of "Spinal Tap"...so there you have it, the Colts/Saint didn't get my interest, but some time waster of "Spinal Tap" was actually kinda funny and interesting. It was on HD NET.

So there's my lame excuse...anyone else do anything other than Hype-Bowl watching? Again, I did actually flip through and catch the commercials, which this year appeared funnier than they have for quite a few years.
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IRVING, Texas - For the Cowboys' 2009 draft class, the emphasis now is to turn negatives into positives.

So what, then, if the most impactful rookie of the season was a kickoff specialist - the team can rightfully say it will have a draft class-and-a-half of unproven young players with upside when summer practices begin.

And so what if three of the players coaches were most hopeful about were lost to preseason injuries last year. For Robert Brewster, Brandon Williams and Stephen Hodge, the task now is to make the most of some bad luck and turn the redshirt season into something they can build on, thanks to progress made in the weight room.

That process continues for Brewster and Williams on Tuesday, when they get a head start on the eight-week off-season program their teammates will begin in March. With Brewster's torn pectoral muscle healed, and Williams' torn ACL in good enough shape to begin simple leg work, the players are ready to start moving past their respective rehab stages. Hodge, who had the more invasive microfracture surgery for his knee injury, is a bit farther behind, but continues to work with trainers and strength and conditioning coach Joe Juraszek to complete his own comeback.

After their individual injuries, each player faces a different timeline to get back to 100 percent.

"There comes that point where guys want to be aggressive," Juraszek said. "But the term we always use is 'appropriate physical progression.' Don't take two steps up the ladder. You've got to take each rung."

Brewster seems to have made the most progress. The Cowboys' third-round pick (75th overall) out of Ball State, Brewster tore a pectoral muscle while performing a dumbbell press last July. The injury landed him on the Non-Active Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) list for the entirety of training camp and much of the season, and he was eventually moved to the injured reserve.

"It really hurt me more than words can explain," Brewster said. "I never missed one play in college, never missed a game, then made it to my dream of being in the NFL. But I decided to put (the injury) behind me and overcome it. I know it's going to help out in the long run, and when my time comes, God's got a plan. He might've done it for a reason so I can get faster and stronger for next year."

Indeed, Brewster did take some steps forward through the injury. While he said it took nearly three months before he could perform any upper-body exercise, he lost some weight, which was a must before he could have an impact. Juraszek said the time lost allowed Brewster to learn how to burn calories and make his body more efficient, giving him a chance to get back on the field.

Williams, one of the club's fourth-round choices (120th overall), had impressed coaches with his first-step burst in the mini-camp and OTA season last summer, and Wade Phillips singled him out as a potential impact pass-rusher. That all ended when he tore his ACL in the home preseason opener, ending his season. The 21-year old Texas Tech product had already missed almost every training camp practice and the first preseason game with a shoulder injury.

With hardly any practice time under his belt, Williams' conversion from 4-3 defensive end to stand-up 3-4 outside linebacker has been undeniably stunted. Juraszek said he has improved in one way since his season ended, though, improving the strength in his back and shoulder muscles, an area he had been lacking coming into the year. Williams said he expects to begin running again this week, pending the go-ahead from assistant trainer Britt Brown, who heads the medical staff's rehabilitation efforts.

"It's getting a lot better," Williams said. "The progress is really good right now. I've been rehabbing with Britt and he's helping me a lot, so I feel real good about it."

Juraszek said the hope is that by March, Brewster and Williams will be on the same plane as their fellow rookies who weren't seriously injured.

Hodge has farther to go, and won't begin training fully for a while still. Trainers have to go particularly easy on the sixth-round inside linebacker from TCU because his microfracture surgery required an extended time without putting any pressure on the knee, and it will take even more time before the knee can handle a full load.

Hodge said he is eager to resume a lower-body routine and running schedule because he added bulk to his upper body during the season, and wants to even out his frame. As he eases back into a full workload, Hodge's days are currently spent much the same as they have been the past few months.

"Resting," he said. "I go to the trainers every day, and I stay off my leg because I don't want to put pressure on it, or just wear it out walking around. We took a week off after the season, but now I'm back working hard and grinding, trying to get my body in shape, and later I'll start getting prepared for OTAs."

Since they were not active the entire season, all three injured rookies are eligible to participate in the Cowboys' rookie mini-camp, typically held the weekend after the draft. If totally recovered, they should also get the complete slate of OTA and veteran mini-camp practices in May and June. The on-field work will be crucial in their quest to make up for lost time, but the next couple months are equally important.

Brewster calls it the most critical period of his career. The same can be said for Williams and Hodge, as well as the rest of the 2009 rookie class. After only six weeks in an NFL-caliber weight room before their first season, this is the best time for a young player to make gains.

"They have to make their greatest physical improvement now," Juraszek said. "And then take that to the field. When they get back on the field and start doing some things for the coaches they should be significantly different. . . . If you go that period of time and you don't wow somebody, then you just become another guy."
I'm really interested to see where these guys stand this offseason.
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So, is there ANY sliver of a chance that we let Spears walk, sign Peppers, and move him into the 3-4 DE position? Obviously his position on our defense would be OLB, but we are set there. Can he push Spencer inside? Can he play inside while offering a great inside blitz option? He is a freak and very strong so I would think he could handle most anything but 3-4 DE at his height is a stretch I think.

Any way this beast can make this team, contract demands be damned?
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So, is there ANY sliver of a chance that we let Spears walk, sign Peppers, and move him into the 3-4 DE position? Obviously his position on our defense would be OLB, but we are set there. Can he push Spencer inside? Can he play inside while offering a great inside blitz option? He is a freak and very strong so I would think he could handle most anything but 3-4 DE at his height is a stretch I think.

Any way this beast can make this team, contract demands be damned?
he's got the weight, and would probably fit there better than he would at OLB in the 3-4 scheme.

thing is...he's a lazy player. he plays when he wants, and then will take plays (or games) off. and you're paying him a huge sum to do this? no thanks.

ProFootballTalk had a story about this a few days ago..about how GMs are worried about signing him because if he doesn't play well after getting paid, then it's their job on the line.

I'd rather not have him. Draft your talent, and sign free agents who promote team stability (Brooking, Sensabaugh).
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MKat - is it possible that he took some plays off because his team was getting beat 35-14? Losing is tough and a lot of guys probably do that to a certain extent. He is still a tremenous player though, even at 80%. Plus if you put him in a winning environment with a healthy salary on a line featuring two absolute studs around him don't you think that you just made everyone better around him? Our rush defense might take a hit but our pressure on the QB would certainly increase. Even if he takes a play off you still have to have the blocking scheme in there to stop him were he to be coming full speed. That leads to offensive coordinators drawing up slants instead of go routes which prevents big plays and allows Jenkins/Newman to jump routes and cause turnovers. It takes weapons away from your opponent. We saw that happen to Dallas several times when we had to keep Witten back to help block teams with very talented defenses.

Sure, there is risk there, but our GM doesn't have to worry about being replaced.

Who knows how bad he wants to come here but I know he has said he likes this division and I know he has said he wants to come to a 3-4 team. Expensive? Sure. Worth it - I sure think it would be interesting. I could come in here and play Devil's Advocate as well and make a list of reasons and concerns for not wanting him here but man, that defense sure would be special. How much will cutting Hamlin save us? If we move Gerald over to FS, (the position he played in Jax), and drafted a SS or filled the position internally I wonder how much we would have available to us that otherwise wouldn't be available to go after him...

Just a thought I figured I would put out there, but man - we would be SOOO nasty. Imagine a Ware, Igor, Ratliff, Peppers, Spencer, James, Brooking front 7. With Newman, Jenkins, Gerald, SS, (or FS, Gerald). Ball could step in and play FS and we still have the other Hamlin.

I am sure it is just wishful thinking as he will probably command way too much money.
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i'm not playing devil's advocate. i just think he's a waste of money and time.

and yeah, that looks great on paper. it just rarely works out as well as we could dream it might.
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i'm not playing devil's advocate. i just think he's a waste of money and time.

and yeah, that looks great on paper. it just rarely works out as well as we could dream it might.
I can see the argument for waste of money - or putting too much money in the line; however, I can't even fathom someone thinking he would be a waste of time.
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MKat - is it possible that he took some plays off because his team was getting beat 35-14? Losing is tough and a lot of guys probably do that to a certain extent. He is still a tremenous player though, even at 80%. Plus if you put him in a winning environment with a healthy salary on a line featuring two absolute studs around him don't you think that you just made everyone better around him? Our rush defense might take a hit but our pressure on the QB would certainly increase. Even if he takes a play off you still have to have the blocking scheme in there to stop him were he to be coming full speed. That leads to offensive coordinators drawing up slants instead of go routes which prevents big plays and allows Jenkins/Newman to jump routes and cause turnovers. It takes weapons away from your opponent. We saw that happen to Dallas several times when we had to keep Witten back to help block teams with very talented defenses.

Sure, there is risk there, but our GM doesn't have to worry about being replaced.

Who knows how bad he wants to come here but I know he has said he likes this division and I know he has said he wants to come to a 3-4 team. Expensive? Sure. Worth it - I sure think it would be interesting. I could come in here and play Devil's Advocate as well and make a list of reasons and concerns for not wanting him here but man, that defense sure would be special. How much will cutting Hamlin save us? If we move Gerald over to FS, (the position he played in Jax), and drafted a SS or filled the position internally I wonder how much we would have available to us that otherwise wouldn't be available to go after him...

Just a thought I figured I would put out there, but man - we would be SOOO nasty. Imagine a Ware, Igor, Ratliff, Peppers, Spencer, James, Brooking front 7. With Newman, Jenkins, Gerald, SS, (or FS, Gerald). Ball could step in and play FS and we still have the other Hamlin.

I am sure it is just wishful thinking as he will probably command way too much money.

that would be awesome
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Jones said recently that we will have 10-11 new players on the team. With only 6 picks, there must be several planned moves. This could be one, but obviously Hamlin would need to be cut. Peppers could still be one, but I haven't read anything about that yet or about Spears definitely not being resigned. They are talking about cutting Flozell as well and giving that spot to Free. I also wouldn't be suprised if Barber wasn't on the team to start next year.
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Jones said recently that we will have 10-11 new players on the team. With only 6 picks, there must be several planned moves. This could be one, but obviously Hamlin would need to be cut. Peppers could still be one, but I haven't read anything about that yet or about Spears definitely not being resigned. They are talking about cutting Flozell as well and giving that spot to Free. I also wouldn't be suprised if Barber wasn't on the team to start next year.
i really hope we have barber next year. I finally bought a new cowboys jersey this past year..and i went with barber. he had signed like a 6 year deal...so i figured i'd be safe for awhile. lol

my other jersey was a roy williams #31..so yeah......plus. i like barber.

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Wow, I am unsure of what Dallas will do this year.

IMO -- draft a ball hawking FS (not that they are easy to come by).
OL needs depth -- but Free and Brewster (maybe) seem as good as any other teams backups. Maybe they cut Flo or Columbo -- but I doubt it.

TE no needs. QB no needs. RB no needs. OLB no needs. NT (maybe if Terrance Cody falls you could play with moving Ratliff to DE sometimes). DE (Igor and Spears or several others can provide-- maybe depth to push). CB no needs but maybe depth? ILB -- depth needed, IMO but they have 2 coming from last years draft that were injured. So Safety, interior OL depth, maybe a big NT for goal line and 2 down stuff, and possibly WR.

Dallas really just doesn't have a lot of needs. IMO -- Best case scenario for the Boys.
1) Earl Thomas falls and Dallas picks him up at 27. (very doubtful)
2) Best Center or Guard falls to here. (seems like all the good linemen Dallas draft are in the second round)
3) Terrance Cody (won't happen after him showing up at 354 instead of 370)
4) BPA starting with OL.

Round 2 and 3 could switch if it meets with the board.
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Who could be shown the door, but I doubt it? Flozell, RW (too much cost), Barber, Columbo, Spears, Carpenter
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i really hope we have barber next year. I finally bought a new cowboys jersey this past year..and i went with barber. he had signed like a 6 year deal...so i figured i'd be safe for awhile. lol

my other jersey was a roy williams #31..so yeah......plus. i like barber.
Its so hard to buy jerseys but the safe bet is always the quarterback if he's good lol. The Quarterback is never going anywhere. And Ware is pretty much safe to be here for awhile too.

I think Barber has some years left in him he just caught the injury bug which he seems to be catching every season now. Choice is becoming frustrated though. You may have to deal Choice even though there may not really be a market for him.
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Its so hard to buy jerseys but the safe bet is always the quarterback if he's good lol. The Quarterback is never going anywhere. And Ware is pretty much safe to be here for awhile too.

I think Barber has some years left in him he just caught the injury bug which he seems to be catching every season now. Choice is becoming frustrated though. You may have to deal Choice even though there may not really be a market for him.
i know man. I almost bought a ware jersey when i picked up my barber jersey. I also liked the witten jersey too. Romo played awfully good this year in my opinion, but i bought this jersey before the season started when lots of questions were surrounding romo. Maybe i just need to go with like a personalized jersey or a throwback Aikman jersey. At least i could wear it forever.
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i know man. I almost bought a ware jersey when i picked up my barber jersey. I also liked the witten jersey too. Romo played awfully good this year in my opinion, but i bought this jersey before the season started when lots of questions were surrounding romo. Maybe i just need to go with like a personalized jersey or a throwback Aikman jersey. At least i could wear it forever.
Oh okay I gotcha. Romo was still somewhawt suspect before this season. Witten probably is a safe bet to. I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.

I don't buy jerseys for that reason. When a guy gets traded its like null and void to me lol. But yea if I ever buy a 'Boys jersey I think i'm going with a Staubach lol.
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Its so hard to buy jerseys but the safe bet is always the quarterback if he's good lol. The Quarterback is never going anywhere. And Ware is pretty much safe to be here for awhile too.

I think Barber has some years left in him he just caught the injury bug which he seems to be catching every season now. Choice is becoming frustrated though. You may have to deal Choice even though there may not really be a market for him.
I heard Choice was frustrated as well. I hope the Cowboys don't end up trading him. That would be one of the biggest mistakes the Cowboys could possibly make imo.
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I heard Choice was frustrated as well. I hope the Cowboys don't end up trading him. That would be one of the biggest mistakes the Cowboys could possibly make imo.
The running back situation is a difficult one. Choice hasn't proven much. However, he's the only one who's shown he can carry the load by himself even though it was in college but we can't even say that about Barber or Felix. Both shared the rock in college and in the NFL. If I had my choice i'd love to have all 3 but I don't think its possible. One thing is for sure though is that Choice needs more carries.
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I said get rid of Barber in a trade for a WR and was disagreed with by the majority, (sorry, I am channeling my 5-0 SEE TOLD YA SO traits), but I bet most wish he did go out for Roy instead of losing those picks. To me, we need to keep Choice and Jones. All 3 is a great plan if you can keep them all happy, but that obviously isn't going to work with Choice. Really, you have to determine if he would even be happy as the #2 back because, assuming he can stay healthy, Jones most definitely is the #1 here long term. If he isn't going to be happy with that, start shopping him and stick with Barber.

3 backs is a great thing to have but when all 3 turn into something it is time to cut one loose and draft another.
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I said get rid of Barber in a trade for a WR and was disagreed with by the majority, (sorry, I am channeling my 5-0 SEE TOLD YA SO traits), but I bet most wish he did go out for Roy instead of losing those picks. To me, we need to keep Choice and Jones. All 3 is a great plan if you can keep them all happy, but that obviously isn't going to work with Choice. Really, you have to determine if he would even be happy as the #2 back because, assuming he can stay healthy, Jones most definitely is the #1 here long term. If he isn't going to be happy with that, start shopping him and stick with Barber.

3 backs is a great thing to have but when all 3 turn into something it is time to cut one loose and draft another.
this.

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well yeah, i think if choice is not happy he is the one that needs to go. Choice played well when he was given the opportunities.

I think the best thing is to keep barber and jones. I know the cowboys like having the big bruising back in barber and then speedy gonzalez on the ends. I know that using barber in the 4th quarter would be good because then the opponents d is tired. I dont know what to do. I'd really like to keep barber, i think he fits well with this offense. I think sometimes people get down on him because some of the plays he gets dropped in the backfield, but we need to look at the play calling and the offensive line for those situations..in my opinion.

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this.

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well yeah, i think if choice is not happy he is the one that needs to go. Choice played well when he was given the opportunities.

I think the best thing is to keep barber and jones. I know the cowboys like having the big bruising back in barber and then speedy gonzalez on the ends. I know that using barber in the 4th quarter would be good because then the opponents d is tired. I dont know what to do. I'd really like to keep barber, i think he fits well with this offense. I think sometimes people get down on him because some of the plays he gets dropped in the backfield, but we need to look at the play calling and the offensive line for those situations..in my opinion.

plus, i'd like to keep my barber jersey.
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Barber is paid to be the lead back.

The best for the team would be Choice being the feature back, and Felix and Barber being the role backs, IMO.

Pay won't allow for that though, and I think Barber has already started the break down process because of the way he plays. If you could get anything for him, I'd trade Barber, then start Choice while using Felix in spot duty. Felix is a home run hitter, when he is healthy, but when is he healthy -- and could you count on that to be your feature back?

Of course with Barbers $$$$ and injury history, he might be hard to move.

Dan's suggestion of Barber for a WR might be a very good one at this time.
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Barber is paid to be the lead back.

The best for the team would be Choice being the feature back, and Felix and Barber being the role backs, IMO.

Pay won't allow for that though, and I think Barber has already started the break down process because of the way he plays. If you could get anything for him, I'd trade Barber, then start Choice while using Felix in spot duty. Felix is a home run hitter, when he is healthy, but when is he healthy -- and could you count on that to be your feature back?

Of course with Barbers $$$$ and injury history, he might be hard to move.
Dan's suggestion of Barber for a WR might be a very good one at this time.
I can't say I agree with giving up on Jones yet as a feature back. He showed a lot late last year and could be a lot like LT, (small, fast, but still feature-back capable). I think Choice has a good combination of quickness and power and I think he should be put in the role that Barber had in Julius Jones' last year. Be that 4th quarter back that bursts into a line that is tired from chasing a very speedy Jones for 3 quarters. I think both could work well together with a rookie as the backup in the event of an injury.

Barber, for his contract, should be moved if he can be. Here is hoping SD doesn't snatch up Thomas Jones and would be willing to trade us Cromartie for Barber. I would do that in a heartbeat. Could ONE of Newman/Scandrick/Cromartie work as the FS? I know it would REALLY do wonders for our pass protection. I am not sure about our rush protection, but rarely does a RB get past our front 7 anyway. That also would take FS off of the needs list for the draft and everyone knows you can pick up a dependable RB later in the draft.

Just a thought, and likely not to happen. Hell, Rolle could fix FS if he doesn't want crazy money too, and of course he wouldn't demand Barber. Signing Rolle and then trading Barber for a WR, (which removes TWO draft needs), would be the better direction, and then of course you don't have a player out of position, (though Rolle is not a lot better than any of those other options on rush defense).
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I can't say I agree with giving up on Jones yet as a feature back. He showed a lot late last year and could be a lot like LT, (small, fast, but still feature-back capable). I think Choice has a good combination of quickness and power and I think he should be put in the role that Barber had in Julius Jones' last year. Be that 4th quarter back that bursts into a line that is tired from chasing a very speedy Jones for 3 quarters. I think both could work well together with a rookie as the backup in the event of an injury.

Barber, for his contract, should be moved if he can be. Here is hoping SD doesn't snatch up Thomas Jones and would be willing to trade us Cromartie for Barber. I would do that in a heartbeat. Could ONE of Newman/Scandrick/Cromartie work as the FS? I know it would REALLY do wonders for our pass protection. I am not sure about our rush protection, but rarely does a RB get past our front 7 anyway. That also would take FS off of the needs list for the draft and everyone knows you can pick up a dependable RB later in the draft.

Just a thought, and likely not to happen. Hell, Rolle could fix FS if he doesn't want crazy money too, and of course he wouldn't demand Barber. Signing Rolle and then trading Barber for a WR, (which removes TWO draft needs), would be the better direction, and then of course you don't have a player out of position, (though Rolle is not a lot better than any of those other options on rush defense).
I agree.


With that said, what position is Dallas going to draft in round one?

IMO, the LT's will already be gone. There is no need for a 1st round QB, TE, CB, OLB, or RB. Historically S, G, C, and NT are second round an lower picks.

Unless they have a pet pick that is a G/C type, I don't see them picking one of them up in the first. WR is too big a bust with first rounders. I would say no on the TE, QB, CB, OLB, or RB. That pretty well leaves safety or DT/DE for the first rounder, IMO.

I am guessing that in rounds 2-4 they come up with a couple of OL, and possibly 3 overall in the draft.

I am guessing they take one LB (just because they always do).

Seeing that I am an Aggie -- I hate to admit this one, but in my dream draft --Dallas somehow ends up with Earl Thomas, Terrance Cody, Jordan Shipley, Colt McCoy -- and the meanest and biggest inside OL in the draft. (Three Cows just kill me to type.)

All would have to drop from where they are projected for this to happen.
Earl Thomas seems to be a ballhawk -- and I think could play FS quickly.
Jordan Shipley wasn't as fast as needed, but he has a nack for the endzone.
Colt McCoy is not a need at all, but he could push McGee and make for a future QB non-issue (hedging bets that one of them develops).
Terrance Cody may eat himself out of the league. He is probably only a 2 down player -- but when you are drafting for a backup for Ratliff and a huge guy who can man the short yardage stuff and reek havoc on run downs -- he has proven that he can be that kind of player in college.
Of course they need another lineman to hopefully replace Proctor as the C/G backup on game day.

This is the year to find out if Free really can be Flo's replacement, and if Brewster really can be Columbo's (although Brewster has more time, IMO). Has Free gotten strong enough?

LB - would be a good draft pick, but they have both Williams from last years draft to find out if can play. Hodge, Butler, CuJo ??

DT/E seem to have a bunch of JAG's -- maybe Dallas can find an upgrade for there? (Igor isn't going anywhere I don't think though).

Most years I can get close to what Dallas is thinking -- this year, I am not so sure I or the so called draft experts will get that close.
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doesn't dallas draft based on the best player available? It doesn't really matter what the needs are for the draft..they grab the best football player available. does that sound right?
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I said get rid of Barber in a trade for a WR and was disagreed with by the majority, (sorry, I am channeling my 5-0 SEE TOLD YA SO traits), but I bet most wish he did go out for Roy instead of losing those picks. To me, we need to keep Choice and Jones. All 3 is a great plan if you can keep them all happy, but that obviously isn't going to work with Choice. Really, you have to determine if he would even be happy as the #2 back because, assuming he can stay healthy, Jones most definitely is the #1 here long term. If he isn't going to be happy with that, start shopping him and stick with Barber.

3 backs is a great thing to have but when all 3 turn into something it is time to cut one loose and draft another.
That's the thing though. None of the backs have really proven anything except Barber. He's the only one who's made the Pro Bowl. The sample size for Felix and Choice is so small that you really don't know what they have.

And as far as trading Choice for a receiver I still disagree with that lol. There's no market for Choice. That's the problem when trading him. If you trade him its more than likely going to be for a draft pick. And we drafted him with a 4th round pick. I doubt we get anything higher than that for him. The market is already bad enough for running backs since as Choice has proven you can pick one up in the draft in the 1st 5 rounds. I think I heard rumors of trading him for Cromartie? And didn't he just get cut? I think that's where we are at with Choice. Might be best just to keep him for insurance once again this year. He's a competitor. He wants to play but he wouldn't sit out for the whole season for a chance to start.
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To me the ideal running back rotation would be something where Felix gets 15 carries, Choice gets about 10, and Barber gets whatever is leftover. Obviously this probably won't happen thanks to Barber's big contract, but I would be thrilled if it did.

I know people keep saying that Choice hasn't yet proven it, but he proved a whole lot to me in his rookie season when he went up against some of the best defenses the league had to offer and was extremely productive. The other thing I like about Choice is that in his second year on in the league, he is already one of the team leaders in the locker room. You don't get rid of guys like that.
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With that said, what position is Dallas going to draft in round one?

IMO, the LT's will already be gone. There is no need for a 1st round QB, TE, CB, OLB, or RB. Historically S, G, C, and NT are second round an lower picks.

Unless they have a pet pick that is a G/C type, I don't see them picking one of them up in the first. WR is too big a bust with first rounders. I would say no on the TE, QB, CB, OLB, or RB. That pretty well leaves safety or DT/DE for the first rounder, IMO.

I am guessing that in rounds 2-4 they come up with a couple of OL, and possibly 3 overall in the draft.

I am guessing they take one LB (just because they always do).

Seeing that I am an Aggie -- I hate to admit this one, but in my dream draft --Dallas somehow ends up with Earl Thomas, Terrance Cody, Jordan Shipley, Colt McCoy -- and the meanest and biggest inside OL in the draft. (Three Cows just kill me to type.)

All would have to drop from where they are projected for this to happen.
Earl Thomas seems to be a ballhawk -- and I think could play FS quickly.
Jordan Shipley wasn't as fast as needed, but he has a nack for the endzone.
Colt McCoy is not a need at all, but he could push McGee and make for a future QB non-issue (hedging bets that one of them develops).
Terrance Cody may eat himself out of the league. He is probably only a 2 down player -- but when you are drafting for a backup for Ratliff and a huge guy who can man the short yardage stuff and reek havoc on run downs -- he has proven that he can be that kind of player in college.
Of course they need another lineman to hopefully replace Proctor as the C/G backup on game day.

This is the year to find out if Free really can be Flo's replacement, and if Brewster really can be Columbo's (although Brewster has more time, IMO). Has Free gotten strong enough?

LB - would be a good draft pick, but they have both Williams from last years draft to find out if can play. Hodge, Butler, CuJo ??

DT/E seem to have a bunch of JAG's -- maybe Dallas can find an upgrade for there? (Igor isn't going anywhere I don't think though).

Most years I can get close to what Dallas is thinking -- this year, I am not so sure I or the so called draft experts will get that close.
Yeah, this is definitely a hard year because so much is based on assumptions. If you told me how the Cowboys roster looked right before the draft I think I could be pretty accurate, (not player of course, but position). As of now, there are SO many unknowns. What do we do with Flo, Spears, Hamlin, Barber/Choice, etc... Do we sign any marquee free agents such as Peppers, Rolle, etc...

I still think OL though with the first pick.
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That's the thing though. None of the backs have really proven anything except Barber. He's the only one who's made the Pro Bowl. The sample size for Felix and Choice is so small that you really don't know what they have.

And as far as trading Choice for a receiver I still disagree with that lol. There's no market for Choice. That's the problem when trading him. If you trade him its more than likely going to be for a draft pick. And we drafted him with a 4th round pick. I doubt we get anything higher than that for him. The market is already bad enough for running backs since as Choice has proven you can pick one up in the draft in the 1st 5 rounds. I think I heard rumors of trading him for Cromartie? And didn't he just get cut? I think that's where we are at with Choice. Might be best just to keep him for insurance once again this year. He's a competitor. He wants to play but he wouldn't sit out for the whole season for a chance to start.
I didn't suggest trading Choice for a WR, I suggested trading Marion for a WR.
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Man....................If we could develop a contract with some of those juicy nuggets that would completely prevent Denver from matching, (i.e. Marshall has to play at least 30% of his games at Cowboys stadium or his contract is 100% guaranteed), I would be ALL for sending a first over for him. He is no Roy Williams; however, he has a little TO in him.

Still - you do that 19 out of 20 times, especially this year when there is no ENORMOUS need with that first round pick, (assuming we keep Flo that is - otherwise that is a pretty huge hole instead of just a large hole). Hell, even if Flo goes, you still have 5 more picks to secure your OL/DL/S.

Imagine the splash if Jerry brought on Rolle and Peppers and traded the first for Marshall.

Not gonna happen, but fantasy football can be fun in this way, (it sucks all others btw).
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depends. they go after guys that fit their system. if that guy isn't available, they either take best player available or they trade down and pick up a system guy for a cheaper price tag.
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Not gonna happen, but fantasy football can be fun in this way, (it sucks all others btw).
...at least you realize it's fantasy. jesus.
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:27 PM   #79
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Man....................If we could develop a contract with some of those juicy nuggets that would completely prevent Denver from matching, (i.e. Marshall has to play at least 30% of his games at Cowboys stadium or his contract is 100% guaranteed), I would be ALL for sending a first over for him. He is no Roy Williams; however, he has a little TO in him.

Still - you do that 19 out of 20 times, especially this year when there is no ENORMOUS need with that first round pick, (assuming we keep Flo that is - otherwise that is a pretty huge hole instead of just a large hole). Hell, even if Flo goes, you still have 5 more picks to secure your OL/DL/S.

Imagine the splash if Jerry brought on Rolle and Peppers and traded the first for Marshall.

Not gonna happen, but fantasy football can be fun in this way, (it sucks all others btw).
yeah i got a feeling the redskins are going to try and make some splashes too.
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That is two smart ass remarks towards me in single day when I haven't said shit to you.

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