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04-27-2022, 12:20 PM
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Brunson is averaging 28 ppg in the playoffs. If you don't pony up for that, then what will you pay for is the better question?
You dump THJ. Problem solved.
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04-27-2022, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Brunson is averaging 28 ppg in the playoffs. If you don't pony up for that, then what will you pay for is the better question?
You dump THJ. Problem solved.
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29pts, 5reb, 5ast
There are a lot of talented people. Dinwiddie is talented. Trae Young is talented, but talent doesn't mean you're a performer.
Brunson is a performer. Brunson steps it up when the pressure is at its highest.
Last edited by EricaLubarsky; 04-27-2022 at 12:39 PM.
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04-27-2022, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
29pts, 5reb, 5ast
There are a lot of talented people. Dinwiddie is talented. Trae Young is talented, but talent doesn't mean you're a performer.
Brunson is a performer. Performers are rare and Brunson steps it up when the pressure is at its highest.
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And he is consistent. THAT is the separation. Trae and Dinwiddie are very inconsistent. They are more talented, without a doubt.
Can't make up for that large IQ gap though.
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04-27-2022, 03:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Brunson is averaging 28 ppg in the playoffs. If you don't pony up for that, then what will you pay for is the better question?
You dump THJ. Problem solved.
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Having THJ on this roster next season and no JB would yield a terrible offseason. Because one of them is very productive and reliable and the other is not.
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Last edited by washedklean77; 04-27-2022 at 03:41 PM.
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04-27-2022, 06:01 PM
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Man, fricken' twitter acts like we've already won game 6. Entire platform is a major jinx.
It's gonna be a really tough game to win. Mark my words on that.
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04-27-2022, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Man, fricken' twitter acts like we've already won game 6. Entire platform is a major jinx.
It's gonna be a really tough game to win. Mark my words on that.
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Twitter is a fn cesspool. I can't find legit users aside from Iztok and a cpl writers.
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04-27-2022, 10:03 PM
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04-27-2022, 11:56 PM
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If it’s true though they Jalen wanted to sign an extension and the Mavs said no? It’s beyond incomprehensible. That’s why I sort of don’t believe it.
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04-28-2022, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mac222b
If it’s true though they Jalen wanted to sign an extension and the Mavs said no? It’s beyond incomprehensible. That’s why I sort of don’t believe it.
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Right, and I agree. It's in the ESPN article from MacMahon.
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04-28-2022, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mac222b
If it’s true though they Jalen wanted to sign an extension and the Mavs said no? It’s beyond incomprehensible. That’s why I sort of don’t believe it.
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Actually now that I think about it, the rumor might be true.
You can't trade players who have recently signed a contract and the trade deadline was February. I can see the Mavs declining to offer an extension until after the trade deadline just because we were hoping to be active. DFS didn't sign his until after the trade deadline.
If the Mavs lost out on Lillard or Beal because they couldn't trade Brunson or DFS then that would have been a disaster. Not signing them to an extension AT WORST cost the Mavs a little bit extra money (which hopefully Cuban can afford)
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04-28-2022, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MFFL
Actually now that I think about it, the rumor might be true.
You can't trade players who have recently signed a contract and the trade deadline was February. I can see the Mavs declining to offer an extension until after the trade deadline just because we were hoping to be active. DFS didn't sign his until after the trade deadline.
If the Mavs lost out on Lillard or Beal because they couldn't trade Brunson or DFS then that would have been a disaster. Not signing them to an extension AT WORST cost the Mavs a little bit extra money (which hopefully Cuban can afford)
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Yeah but we are talking about possibly paying him almost DOUBLE. Even if Cuban can afford it, it’s just bad business. Having guys on great contracts is super valuable. Not to mention the extra 10-12m per year if you include the tax bill, is way more.
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04-28-2022, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mac222b
Yeah but we are talking about possibly paying him almost DOUBLE. Even if Cuban can afford it, it’s just bad business. Having guys on great contracts is super valuable. Not to mention the extra 10-12m per year if you include the tax bill, is way more.
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Seriously? Is there anyone on this board who predicted what JB has done in the playoffs?
Coming up on the trade deadline, he had barely cemented himself in the role of starter. At that point, I doubt any team would have offered him $20 million, unless they were desperate, like the Knicks. Had Luka not gone down, Brunson would have probably averaged 20 points a game at best, but would never have had the opportunity to lead and score like he did.
You can say fate kicked Cuban in the teeth again, if you like. But at the time they were talking about $55 million, no one n the league was thinking he'd ever be worth twice that.
But that is what he's worth now, and I want the Mavs to pay him. If other teams who want to contend have $170 million dollar payrolls, the Mavs should too. Otherwise, we aren't serious about winning.
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04-28-2022, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by G-Man
Seriously? Is there anyone on this board who predicted what JB has done in the playoffs?
Coming up on the trade deadline, he had barely cemented himself in the role of starter. At that point, I doubt any team would have offered him $20 million, unless they were desperate, like the Knicks. Had Luka not gone down, Brunson would have probably averaged 20 points a game at best, but would never have had the opportunity to lead and score like he did.
You can say fate kicked Cuban in the teeth again, if you like. But at the time they were talking about $55 million, no one n the league was thinking he'd ever be worth twice that.
But that is what he's worth now, and I want the Mavs to pay him. If other teams who want to contend have $170 million dollar payrolls, the Mavs should too. Otherwise, we aren't serious about winning.
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I couldn't agree more.
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04-28-2022, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by G-Man
Seriously? Is there anyone on this board who predicted what JB has done in the playoffs?
Coming up on the trade deadline, he had barely cemented himself in the role of starter. At that point, I doubt any team would have offered him $20 million, unless they were desperate, like the Knicks.
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By the trade deadline, it was widely speculated that 20 mil was the starting rate for JB. Knicks and Pistons were both expected to offer at least that much.
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04-29-2022, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by G-Man
Seriously? Is there anyone on this board who predicted what JB has done in the playoffs?
Coming up on the trade deadline, he had barely cemented himself in the role of starter. At that point, I doubt any team would have offered him $20 million, unless they were desperate, like the Knicks. Had Luka not gone down, Brunson would have probably averaged 20 points a game at best, but would never have had the opportunity to lead and score like he did.
You can say fate kicked Cuban in the teeth again, if you like. But at the time they were talking about $55 million, no one n the league was thinking he'd ever be worth twice that.
But that is what he's worth now, and I want the Mavs to pay him. If other teams who want to contend have $170 million dollar payrolls, the Mavs should too. Otherwise, we aren't serious about winning.
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Thank you. There's a hell of a lot of revisionist history going on here. Until very recently, Brunson was little more than a sparkplug off the bench. He was JJ Barea 2.0. Nobody saw this coming, and anyone who says otherwise is lying through their teeth. As I alluded to earlier, last year people on this board were legit pissed that the Mavs didn't use him as trade fodder for Oladipo. OLADIPO FFS.
The dude has taken a leap that was completely unforeseeable. I'm thrilled about it. And yes, the Mavs just need to pay him. You can always move a bad contract if you need to, but losing one of your best players and getting nothing in return? That's always a terrible move.
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04-28-2022, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mac222b
Yeah but we are talking about possibly paying him almost DOUBLE. Even if Cuban can afford it, it’s just bad business. Having guys on great contracts is super valuable. Not to mention the extra 10-12m per year if you include the tax bill, is way more.
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20-20 vision in hindsight is great.
But knowing the Mavs were ready to move KP then anything was possible at the trade deadline. Brunson could have easily been moved - in fact, that might be WHY he wanted to sign the contract in Jan, so he would be guaranteed to not be traded
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04-28-2022, 11:32 PM
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Congratulations to our winners for round 1:
blessednegr0, BPo001, dirt_dobber, DunkYardDaze, EricaLubarsky, kg_veteran, Scoobay
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04-29-2022, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Congratulations to our winners for round 1:
blessednegr0, BPo001, dirt_dobber, DunkYardDaze, EricaLubarsky, kg_veteran, Scoobay
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woah a kg sighting! the further we go in the playoffs the more the dead are resurrected!
everyone come out of the wood works and party like it's 2011!!!!
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04-29-2022, 12:12 AM
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Who were the two that said Jazz in 4? Sheesh.
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04-29-2022, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Who were the two that said Jazz in 4? Sheesh.
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04-29-2022, 01:56 AM
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I said DFS would be the Defensive player of this series
He avg over 40 MPG and Mitchell shot 39% from the FG and 21% from 3-PT range
And dude shot 40% from three himself knocking down clutch 3's throughout series
Doe Doe earned that new contract
Last edited by Dallas41; 04-29-2022 at 01:58 AM.
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04-29-2022, 08:04 AM
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04-29-2022, 03:46 PM
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And all these idiot "journalists" who picked against us this series. Including Brad Townsend who said it was common sense that the Mavs would lose.
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04-30-2022, 10:00 PM
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Bill Simmons has the Mavs as the 8th best team out of the remaining 8 but then gives himself a hedge by saying sometimes the team with the best player wins a series and the Mavs have the best player in the Western side of the bracket.
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05-01-2022, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeus
Bill Simmons has the Mavs as the 8th best team out of the remaining 8 but then gives himself a hedge by saying sometimes the team with the best player wins a series and the Mavs have the best player in the Western side of the bracket.
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I was mad when I first read that, but when I actually think about it, he's probably not wrong.
Phoenix, Golden State, Memphis, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Miami, Boston... Of those seven teams, I'd say Memphis and Miami are the only teams I would give the Mavs good odds against. That's why it sucks so much we missed out on that 3rd seed. Oh well.
But Simmons is right, Luka is the best player left in the West.
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