06-14-2005, 08:59 PM
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Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss playoffs record, by officials
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The interesting part:
Joe Crawford 5 3
Jess Kersey 2 2
Bill Spooner 2 2
Blaine Reichelt 0 1
Ron Garretson 2 5
Steve Javie 5 3
Dick Bavetta 5 1
Jim Clark 2 3
Tim Donaghy 1 0
Bill Kennedy 0 1
Dan Crawford 0 8
Tom Washington 1 4
Bennet Salvatore 5 3
Greg Willard 2 4
Mike Callahan 3 2
Ron Olesiak 1 0
Joe Forte 1 3
Monty McCutheon 0 2
Ken Mauer 1 4
Jim Capers 0 1
Scott Foster 2 2
Bernie Fryar 2 4
Marc Wonderlich 1 4
Bob Delaney 1 2
Jack Nies 1 1
Tony Brothers 2 1
Eddie F Rush 3 2
Joe Derosa 3 1
Derrick Stafford 0 3
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06-14-2005, 09:22 PM
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RE: Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
These numbers would be more telling if he included the winning% of the teams that we faced when those refs worked the game.
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06-15-2005, 10:51 AM
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RE:Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
That's a good point Dirno, why don't you ask him.
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06-15-2005, 11:11 AM
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RE:Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
The refs have blown a ton of calls. Isn't it interesting two different organizations have called out Dan Crawford. Anyway the Spurs are the best team in the league. They can play an uptempo game and the snooze fest known as piston basketball.
If Refs have agendas doesn't it hurt the mavs that Cuban is such a crybaby.
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06-15-2005, 12:20 PM
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RE:Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
The totals are playoff games from 2001-2002 thru this year.
Total record 21-25
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06-15-2005, 07:07 PM
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RE: Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
Is this really a coincidence or do refs really change the outcome of games with this kind of regularity? If this ends up being something like 0-20, is it still a coincidence?
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06-15-2005, 07:45 PM
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RE:Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
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Originally posted by: bernardos70
Is this really a coincidence or do refs really change the outcome of games with this kind of regularity? If this ends up being something like 0-20, is it still a coincidence?
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We really need more data than just sheer win loss numbers to make an educated assessment. Coincidence could go to 0-20, but even 0-8 should trigger a look into more facts. I think that's what Cubes is trying to get the NBA to do. Once refs know the NBA office is looking at them more closely, then they'll be more likely to call a fair game. Of course if that doesn't work, then run four plays in a row and hit the ref in the nuts. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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06-15-2005, 09:26 PM
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RE:Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
I'm kind of into the conspiracy theory thing, I think since the Sac/Lakers series where it seemed like one crime after another was committed by the guys in stripes and with Cuban's complaining they have gotten much better and the gnome is not pushing his luck. Fact is it was easy to cheat and only the gnome would have had to know. The question is did he?
There used to be a betting site that kept all of the stats for refs. Refs are much like a jockey is to a horse. Can a great jockey take a stiff and make him win? No. Can a great jokey take a good horse racing against other good horses and get him to win? Yes.
All the gnome ever had to do was look at the stats on how refs called games and then pick the refs whose stats favored a particular team. Now the gnome (if he did such a thing was/is very crafty). He would pick the refs for the first 2 games of the then 5 game series, but wait to pick the refs for game 3 even though it was already scheduled? Why would that be unless in the pivotal game they wanted to make the odds of certain teams better? They will say it was to pick veteran refs blah blah blah.
If in game five of the Phoenix Dallas series the refs were not already scheduled and Dan Crawford was picked to ref, then that makes me really wonder. The bad thing is in that game Crawford got hurt and had to leave at half time, so we really don't have a gripe, but I'm just saying, Nash the MVP playing another round was preferable to Dallas, though in hindsight we would have probably taken 2 games from the Spurs.
The fact is the pool of refs should get voted on by the coaches and then they should be drawn randomly and assigned to the games. Why are they not? The draft would be much harder to fix so I doubt it is but I still think Yao to Houston was pretty darn iffy.
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06-16-2005, 03:25 AM
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RE: Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
I thought it was Steve Javie that got hurt and had to leave *shrug*
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06-16-2005, 09:39 AM
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RE:Cuban's blog: Mavs Win-Loss record, by officials
It was Javie who was injured. He was replaced by Jess Kersey. The game went to hell after that.
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