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EricaLubarsky · 10-20-2016, 10:43 PM

538 has us at a projected 37-45 with only 31% chance of making the playoffs

In 2015-2016, they predicted 38-44. We were 42-40

dirt_dobber · 10-21-2016, 07:25 AM

I'm in at 48-34

furthermore with final rankings of...
WC power rankings
1. GS Warriors
2. San Ant. Spurs
3. LA Clippers
4. Portland Trail Blazers
5. Dallas Mavs
6. OKC Thunder
7. Memphis Grizzlies
8. Houston Suckets
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9. Utah Jazz
10. NOLA Pelicans
11. Minn TWolves
12. Phoenix Suns
13. Denver Nuggets
14. LA Lakers
15. Sac Kings

SMC0007 · 10-21-2016, 10:31 AM

WC power rankings

GS Warrior
LA Clippers
Portland Trail Blazers

SA. Spurs
Houston Suckets

OKC Thunder
Dallas Mavs
Sac Kings

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Utah Jazz
NOLA Pelicans
Minn TWolves
Mem. Jizzleys
Phoenix Suns
Denver Nuggets
LA Lakers

Thebo · 10-21-2016, 11:01 AM

I would say

1. Warriors (I do think they will be impacted by loss of decent center)
2. Spurs (Depends on how Aldridge works out)
3. LA Clippers (nothing to comment here)
4. Trail Blazers
5. Mavs
6. Jazz
7. Rockets
8. TWolves
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9. Grizzlies
10. Pelicans
11. Thunder
12. Nuggets
13. Suns
14. LA Lakers
15. Sac Kings

I think Grizzlies will not have chemistry or fit problems. I just believe that they will be plagued with injuries, and they do not have much backup if one or more guys go down.

I wanted to throw Rockets out of seeding but can not see much improvement from other teams, I was already too kind with Jazz and Wolves. I think Pelicans may have potential to push themselves in top8 and places 6-11 should be tight all year round. With Thunder, yes they have a decent team, but at some point Westbrook will be torn to pieces by heavy minutes and once he goes down, OKC does not have much to show for it. OKC may even trade some of their pieces, only question is how big the pieces will be.

Expect Suns to eventually move Tyson Chandler. They have no use for him but nobody may be interested to take him.

Budapest Maverick · 10-21-2016, 11:15 AM

I think our floor is at 35 wins, and our ceiling is around 50 wins. I wouldn't be shocked with either scenario. Our offense could be really hard to watch, but defensively we should improve a lot. I'm going for the middle and say that we win 44 games.

As far as the west power ranking goes -

Warriors

Spurs
Clippers

Blazers
Grizzlies

Mavs
Jazz
OKC
Rockets

Kings
Wolves

Something like that (I feel like I missed a team).

Underdog · 10-21-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

Something like that (I feel like I missed a team).

Yep, you forgot about the one with all the banners in their rafters... How the mighty have fallen.

Budapest Maverick · 10-21-2016, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Yep, you forgot about the one with all the banners in their rafters... How the mighty have fallen.

I did not rank teams that I think will surely be lottery fodders.

I think even the Nuggets have a much better chance of making the playoffs, probably the Wolves too.

Underdog · 10-21-2016, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

538 has us at a projected 37-45 with only 31% chance of making the playoffs

In 2015-2016, they predicted 38-44. We were 42-40

Every. Single. Year.

Don't these guys ever get sick of being wrong?

DoYouEvenLift · 10-21-2016, 01:49 PM

Warriors
Clippers
Spurs
Blazers
Thunder
Mavs
Wolves
Rockets (or Grizzlies or Jazz)

bunkmoreland · 10-22-2016, 12:01 PM

Here's my standings prediction for the season:

1. Warriors
2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Jazz
6. Wolves
7. Mavs
8. Grizz
9. Rockets
10. Thunder
11. Suns
12. Pelicans
13. Nuggets
14. Lakers
15. Kings

bunkmoreland · 11-17-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bunkmoreland

Here's my standings prediction for the season:

1. Warriors
2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Jazz
6. Wolves
7. Mavs
8. Grizz
9. Rockets
10. Thunder
11. Suns
12. Pelicans
13. Nuggets
14. Lakers
15. Kings

Ok I'm ready to admit I may have had unreasonably high expectations for the Mavs this season

rimrocker · 11-17-2016, 01:24 PM

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Ok I'm ready to admit I may have had unreasonably high expectations for the Mavs this season

I don't think you are alone.
I predicted anywhere between 4 and 10 and I obviously had unreasonable expectations too.

I don't think anyone predicted us to be this bad but then who knew Dirk would be out this many games this early.

markus1234 · 10-22-2016, 03:57 PM

My optimistic scenario. 47 wins 1st round exit.

1. GSW
2. LAC
3. POR
4. SAS
5. HOU
6. MIN
7. DAL
8. OKC

9. MEM
10. UTAH
11. PHX
12. NOP
13. DEN
14. SAC
15. LAL

Unfortunately our offense looks more like 10 or worse. We have only two playmakers on our team (JJB and Deron). In the past we had (at least) two playmakers in the game. We will miss Felton. I fear Curry is not ready to replace him.

spreedom · 10-23-2016, 01:11 PM

I feel like 43-39 is probably about this team's ceiling. 45 or 46 wins wouldn't shock me but I think it's way more likely that we miss the playoffs than winning 50.

BPo001 · 10-23-2016, 01:37 PM

Pending a trade sometime during the season I don't see this team making the playoffs. I think Utah, NO, and Minn will be improved (barring no significant injuries) and one or 2 of them will bump us from the 7-8 spots.

EricaLubarsky · 11-14-2016, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

538 has us at a projected 37-45 with only 31% chance of making the playoffs

In 2015-2016, they predicted 38-44. We were 42-40

37 wins may be optimistic. Then again 538 said Hillary would be #45.

NeedlesKane · 11-16-2016, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

37 wins may be optimistic. Then again 538 said Hillary would be #45.

I am so happy that Hillary is not our President. I can't stand the people who feel like she is only not the President-Elect because she's a woman. It bugs the hell out of me when people feel like she really should have won only because of that really and dismiss all of her actions. Trump isn't perfect, but I much prefer him to her. And I did not vote for either one of them. Not like it matters in the state of Texas. We always know who will win.

NeedlesKane · 11-16-2016, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

538 has us at a projected 37-45 with only 31% chance of making the playoffs

In 2015-2016, they predicted 38-44. We were 42-40

Boy, were they wrong! I see 20 wins being a challenge for this team.

SMC0007 · 11-17-2016, 02:31 PM

<27 wins guaranteed

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-17-2016, 03:21 PM

There are positives though from being a bad team.

1. Hugely valuable lottery pick.
2. Cheap tickets (get them for a 3rd of face value most games)
3. Develop youth, although our youth does seem to have a ceiling so far.
4. No need to beat up old veterans to eek into a playoff spot. Although our veterans already seem beat up.

I didn't make a prediction though because there were too many variables this season. But the one thing that definitely came from last season are injuries galore. You can never expect to win when players aren't on the floor to help.

rimrocker · 11-17-2016, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

There are positives though from being a bad team.

1. Hugely valuable lottery pick.
2. Cheap tickets (get them for a 3rd of face value most games)
3. Develop youth, although our youth does seem to have a ceiling so far.
4. No need to beat up old veterans to eek into a playoff spot. Although our veterans already seem beat up.

I didn't make a prediction though because there were too many variables this season. But the one thing that definitely came from last season are injuries galore. You can never expect to win when players aren't on the floor to help.

I thought #3 would be a huge positive but I just don't see any of our youth other than Barnes having much upside.
Barnes is the only pleasant surprise so far this season. Maybe DFS, Hammons, Brussino and Curry can become special but I'm slowly losing hope for Powell and Anderson.

Underdog · 11-17-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

I thought #3 would be a huge positive but I just don't see any of our youth other than Barnes having much upside.
Barnes is the only pleasant surprise so far this season. Maybe DFS, Hammons, Brussino and Curry can become special but I'm slowly losing hope for Powell and Anderson.

Yeah, Powell and Anderson have been terrible so far... Although I wonder how they'd look if our veterans were healthy? Seems like Anderson's skill set would be far more complimentary in a Deron/Wes/Simba/Dirk/Bogut lineup where he could focus more on defense/rebounding than on offense (pretty sure Bryan Wilson said something along these lines the other day...)

As for Powell? He either needs to develop a more consistent shot so he can play the 4, or put more meat on his bones so he can bang with centers... Right now he's just a tall, high-flying scorer without much of a position in today's NBA. He doesn't even have the footwork to be a decent rebounder... Brandon Wright 2.0, anyone?

I do like Curry's potential, but he's still pretty raw... Same with DFS, Hammons, and Brussino, but that's to be expected with rooks.

rimrocker · 11-17-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Yeah, Powell and Anderson have been terrible so far... Although I wonder how they'd look if our veterans were healthy? Seems like Anderson's skill set would be far more complimentary in a Deron/Wes/Simba/Dirk/Bogut lineup where he could focus more on defense/rebounding than on offense (pretty sure Bryan Wilson said something along these lines the other day...)

As for Powell? He either needs to develop a more consistent shot so he can play the 4, or put more meat on his bones so he can bang with centers... Right now he's just a tall, high-flying scorer without much of a position in today's NBA. He doesn't even have the footwork to be a decent rebounder... Brandon Wright 2.0, anyone?

I do like Curry's potential, but he's still pretty raw... Same with DFS, Hammons, and Brussino, but that's to be expected with rooks.

At least Wright could block some shots and had a nice little move in the paint but yeah, I'm seeing similarities too. In fact I've mentioned before that I wouldn't be surprised if Anderson/Powell become the next Crowder/Wright situation and get dealt. As long as our pick doesn't go with them and we get promising youth back I could live with moving both I guess.

What do you think of McLemore?
He seems to be one of those lotto busts that could still have some upside in the right system and probably wouldn't cost us too much.
I wouldn't mind Dennis Smith/McLemore/Anderson/Barnes/Hammons as a rebuilding core going into next season.

Melonhead · 11-20-2016, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Yeah, Powell and Anderson have been terrible so far... Although I wonder how they'd look if our veterans were healthy? Seems like Anderson's skill set would be far more complimentary in a Deron/Wes/Simba/Dirk/Bogut lineup where he could focus more on defense/rebounding than on offense (pretty sure Bryan Wilson said something along these lines the other day...)

As for Powell? He either needs to develop a more consistent shot so he can play the 4, or put more meat on his bones so he can bang with centers... Right now he's just a tall, high-flying scorer without much of a position in today's NBA. He doesn't even have the footwork to be a decent rebounder... Brandon Wright 2.0, anyone?

I do like Curry's potential, but he's still pretty raw... Same with DFS, Hammons, and Brussino, but that's to be expected with rooks.

We've been saying this for awhile now though. I think soon we need to package him with someone to get incrementally better at a position of need. I truly think he could benefit from a change of scenery too.

SMC0007 · 11-20-2016, 08:19 AM

Wesley Matthew's is fn garbage. I have grown to dislike his game now. He is never going to round out as a complete shooting guard.

Budapest Maverick · 11-20-2016, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Wesley Matthew's is fn garbage. I have grown to dislike his game now. He is never going to round out as a complete shooting guard.

He was one, that injury destroyed his offensive game.

SMC0007 · 11-20-2016, 09:44 AM

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He was never really that good. He was always just a corner three point shooter that couldn't post up, score on the break or drive. He always needed to be set up by an All Star point guard to just barely get 15 points on low FG% in general.

Yeap.

Not like we have a ton of options.. but im literally down with anything else that provides more penetration and handles. Watching him, is destroying my spirit.

Great guy... but hasn't seemed to keep us in games.

Also why the f is Selah getting Hammons minutes. Hell Bogut even... he looks underwhelming.

Powell is in the disappointment category too. Get some pine on those guys asses!

Rick, wake up, Powell can't guard centers and doesn't have any post chops.. so if that mid-outside shot isn't falling at a high % the the F is he doing out there. Damn sure isn't so we have a good chance at winning games.

jamaljasonandjimmy · 11-20-2016, 09:13 PM

are we talking any trades yet?

jamaljasonandjimmy · 11-20-2016, 09:15 PM

hell i will say it if you guys wont. cuban sell the team if u cant put 100% focus on them. this is why other teams are smoking u because its their main focus.

Underdog · 11-20-2016, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaljasonandjimmy

hell i will say it if you guys wont. cuban sell the team if u cant put 100% focus on them. this is why other teams are smoking u because its their main focus.

Owners really shouldn't be as involved as Cuban because none of them know as much as GMs... That's why we have Donnie.