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dirno2000 · 07-14-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kingmalaki

Terry...I wish. He is the one killing us every year.

These S.O.B.'s around here don't realize what they have.

Big Shot Rob · 07-14-2007, 02:38 AM

I agree-in the long run, this will pan out well for SA.

The potential new player from Portland will be a great addition--Pop will go nuts with his tenacity and Defense.

Now if we could somehow get Pietrus--that would be a solid summer for the Spurs FO.

For whatever reason, Scola and the Spurs just could not click. Frankly I think both he and his agent are jackasses. That hotheaded crap he was spewing out in the media is not the way to get things accomplished. I think he has a major chip on his shoulder and quite frankly would have to be slapped around back to reality--he did okay in the foreign leagues--but in Tim Duncan's backyard, Tim is the big dog--Scola is a small dog.

kingmalaki · 07-14-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

These S.O.B.'s around here don't realize what they have.

For real. I will probably get flamed for this but I think JT has the biggest sack on the team. I don't think he is the best player, but I don't want the rock in his hands to decide a game against my team. That dude is wicked in the clutch....

chumdawg · 07-14-2007, 09:18 PM

No one denies that he has stones. The problem is that A) he doesn't have a lot of brains, and B) his stones are bigger than his game is.

alby · 07-15-2007, 01:03 AM

I think Stack has bigger stones.

12 Tone Melodies · 07-15-2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

I like the idea of Udoka here. The Spurs already have their Bruce Bowen. Another one would just not be fair!

I believe the theory is that Udoka may be Bowen's ultimate replacement, and the Spurs are bringing him in now for Bowen to mentor

Until I see Scola in an NBA uniform, I'm viewing this trade as Butler for a draft pick & cash; with the Spurs and Rockets doing each other a favor and cutting out some foreign deadwood for each other

ty · 07-15-2007, 03:26 AM

Devin has some pretty big stones--I hope he's working on his 3 point game.

Dtownsfinest · 07-15-2007, 11:34 AM

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These S.O.B.'s around here don't realize what they have.

I like JET. I just don't think he has a place on this team unless its as 6th man. I don't think he should be sniffing starter minutes at the 2 or 1 spot. Its just the way the team is constructed.

alby · 07-15-2007, 12:39 PM

I like JET. I just don't think he has a place on this team, even at 6th man - 10 million dollars??

Darke · 07-18-2007, 02:35 AM

Scola signed with Houston.

Scola will compete for ROY, mark my words.

; )

Rhylan · 07-18-2007, 01:15 PM

Scola sucks, y'all. The marketplace would've brought him over sometime in the last FIVE years if he was any good.

Book it.

DOMINATOR · 07-18-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhylan

Scola sucks, y'all. The marketplace would've brought him over sometime in the last FIVE years if he was any good.

Book it.

why would spurs pay so much to be duncans backup?
he's not the greatest but with teams concentrating on Yao/Tmac he should do just fine.

kingmalaki · 07-19-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhylan

Scola sucks, y'all. The marketplace would've brought him over sometime in the last FIVE years if he was any good.

Book it.

Not true. His buyout in previous years was as high as $15M, and you don't pay a huge chunk like that when your starting PF is Tim Duncan.

And1 · 07-19-2007, 12:57 AM

wow, someone knows his stuff.^^

jmwilliamson · 07-20-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kingmalaki

Not true. His buyout in previous years was as high as $15M, and you don't pay a huge chunk like that when your starting PF is Tim Duncan.

And they couldn't have paid that chunk even if they wanted to. The NBA only allows teams to pay up to 500 thousand dollars on buyouts. Scola would have had to pay the other 14.5 million. Scola did not have anywhere near 14.5 million dollars, and no team wanted to sign him for anywhere near approaching the 14.5 million dollars it would take to make him break even from his buyout.

canoner · 07-20-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhylan

Scola sucks, y'all. The marketplace would've brought him over sometime in the last FIVE years if he was any good.

Book it.

Euro league first team, Spanish league MVP. That really sucks.

MavsFanFinley · 07-21-2007, 10:47 AM

I think Scola has a chance to be good in this league but he wasn't going to be a starter nor get significant minutes with the Spurs. And even if the Spurs did want him his buyout situation was ridiculous for years. It was time to move only I thought they could get more for him.

The Spurs seem more sold on Splitter than they ever did on Scola. No doubt he'll be over next season.

jmwilliamson · 07-21-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

The Spurs seem more sold on Splitter than they ever did on Scola. No doubt he'll be over next season.

They do, and honestly that confuses me. It may be they know something we don't, but it may just be they think a young Tiago Splitter will be more satisfied with a limited role on a championship caliber team than a two time Spanish league MVP and gold medal winner. It's said that Scola is the second best player on team Argentina after Manu. If that's true, it's quite impressive as Andres Nocioni, Walter Hermann and Francisco Oberto are all on Team Argentina. What's more, all three of them had success in the NBA during their rookie campaigns. None of them were rookie of the year candidates, but they all were solid contributors to their respective teams. If Scola duplicates that success, the Rockets are going to be a very, very good team.

kingmalaki · 07-21-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jmwilliamson

And they couldn't have paid that chunk even if they wanted to. The NBA only allows teams to pay up to 500 thousand dollars on buyouts. Scola would have had to pay the other 14.5 million. Scola did not have anywhere near 14.5 million dollars, and no team wanted to sign him for anywhere near approaching the 14.5 million dollars it would take to make him break even from his buyout.

Well they coulda bumped his salary, giving him more money to contribute to the buyout. But that makes no sense when yous starting PF is Tim Duncan.

jmwilliamson · 07-21-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kingmalaki

Well they coulda bumped his salary, giving him more money to contribute to the buyout. But that makes no sense when yous starting PF is Tim Duncan.

Bumped his salary to what? 25 million over three years with 14.5 million of it coming up front? No. They couldn't have done that. And no team would do that for a player that has never played in the NBA.

haywoodjay · 07-22-2007, 03:42 AM

the spurs were in a bad situation and hadto get rid of scola asap.... the exhausted all other avenues and were pretty much forced to deal with the rockets; otherwise they would've lost scola for absolutely nothing.

give credit to rocket's GM morey for jumping on a desperate team and forcing the spurs hand... at that point, saving 7 or 8 million for the spurs was well worth the risk of improving a division rival.... especially for an unproven NBA player.

Darke · 08-31-2007, 06:34 AM

Perhaps now, after the game against the US, some of you see how good Scola really is. He can and will help the Rockets from the beginning.

antoinewalker · 09-04-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhylan

Scola sucks, y'all. The marketplace would've brought him over sometime in the last FIVE years if he was any good.

Book it.

i haven't heard such an uneducated statement in a while.

ty · 09-04-2007, 03:07 PM

Why didn't we go for Scola?...or was that not possible?

alby · 09-04-2007, 03:30 PM

why didn't we do a lot of things ty... =\

DevinFuture · 09-04-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ty

Why didn't we go for Scola?...or was that not possible?

I would guess we could have gotten him, since all the Spurs wanted apparently was cap space. He's good, but maybe the Mavs wanted to hold out for more of a sure thing this season, like Webber. We had enough backup power forwards who might not cut it this season, between Pops, Bass, and Fazekas.

ty · 09-04-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinFuture

I would guess we could have gotten him, since all the Spurs wanted apparently was cap space. He's good, but maybe the Mavs wanted to hold out for more of a sure thing this season, like Webber. We had enough backup power forwards who might not cut it this season, between Pops, Bass, and Fazekas.

I'll give you rep for this post when the Mavs get Webber. =X

Until then... ... ...

kingmalaki · 09-05-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Darke

Perhaps now, after the game against the US, some of you see how good Scola really is. He can and will help the Rockets from the beginning.

Yepper...I think he will be a good addition to our team. I don't think he will be a superstar or anything....but we started Chuck Hayes last year man....Chuck Hayes........

alby · 09-05-2007, 02:13 AM

scola should be starting with chuck getting significant minutes (tmac can play off guard while handling the ball the majority of the time, pg/tmac/battier/scola/yao)
houston has a really good team, if they stay healthy--with a new offense implemented by adelman, watch out...
but, until he gets out of the first round--tmac is still considered a choker in my book
with that being said, dallas is still a legitimate threat to win the midwest--just don't be surprised if houston finishes ahead of us
53 wins with tmac and yao hurt last year...

MFFL

ty · 09-05-2007, 05:57 PM

Houston will be good. Freakin Rockettes.

enervate · 09-07-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Yeah you should tie your 4 Larry Obrien trophies to your ankles and jump in the river.

You're champions.

Pretty please, no complaining.

ha ha ha!

MavsFanFinley · 10-29-2007, 07:02 PM

Houston waived Butler today.