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Old 09-09-2007, 11:20 PM   #81
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You understand it, you just have no answer for it.

Whether or not it was a mistake has been argued a billion times. Claiming Cuban did it expressly to undermine Nellie is a new low for you, which is impressive, given the previous standard.
A new low? Dear lord, that's been my claim all along,

As long as Nash is playing, the Mavs will never win a title. Sadly, it's true.
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A new low? Dear lord, that's been my claim all along,

As long as Nash is playing, the Mavs will never win a title. Sadly, it's true.
Why, because of some "Curse of Nash"?

Because certainly it's not that the Suns are standing in our way. I hope that's not what you're claiming.

Who am I kidding, I know that's what you're claiming. But it's so ridiculous, sometimes I just try to pretend it's now what you think.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:00 AM   #83
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Not if you believe that he thought undermining Nellie was a good idea. Which is what I think most reasonable people believe.
What purpose could it serve "reasonable" person? If cubes wanted to get rid of nellie he would have just gotten rid of him.
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It always amazes me how little Donnie Nelson* seems to come up in these Cuban vs Nellie wastes-of-time-we-call-discussions, as if he has nothing to do with all of this....
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:30 AM   #85
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I know, he must have the greatest job in the world. He just hangs out at the ghost bar, buying drinks for folks and has no responsiblity. What a gig..
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As long as Nash is playing, the Mavs will never win a title. Sadly, it's true.
Giggle.

He sure stood in our way in '06. Man, if it weren't for him, we would have won the whole damn thing.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:14 PM   #87
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Donnie Nelson is one of the classiest guys working in professional sports.

The awesome thing about him is that he is awesome at his job as well.
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Nellie was bluffing. He took the Warriors' offer making the second year a team option.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3019137
Restructured deal with Warriors offers Nelson raise

OAKLAND, Calif. -- Don Nelson has reached an agreement with the Golden State Warriors and will return to coach the team for at least one more season, the San Jose Mercury News reported.

Nelson, who led the Warriors to a first-round upset of the heavily favored Dallas Mavericks in last season's playoffs, accepted a restructuring of the remaining two years on his contract. His salary will increase to $5.1 million from $3.1 million, but the final season on the deal is now a team option rather than guaranteed money, according to the report.

"I'm excited to come back and coach the team," Nelson told the newspaper. "The Bay Area's perfect for us, I love working with [team executive vice president Chris Mullin], I love the staff. There's so many positives here."

Warriors team president Robert Rowell told the newspaper that a deal is close to being finalized.

"We are definitely rounding third base," Rowell said, according to the newspaper. "We obviously have some details to work out, but we feel strongly that this is moving in the direction we all want this to move."


Nelson said the deal also includes a clause that gives him a five-year consulting deal worth $1 million if the team chooses not to exercise the option for 2008-09.


"It's a gesture on our part to keep Don a part of the franchise, because we appreciate and respect what he's done for us and what he means to the Warriors," Rowell told the newspaper.
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".....because we appreciate and respect what he's done for us and what he means to the Warriors,"
I wonder if my boss would appreciate it and respect me if I belligerantly failed to honor commitments I've made to the company and demanded more money...


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I wonder if my boss would appreciate it and respect me if I belligerantly failed to honor commitments I've made to the company and demanded more money...


Nellie = T.O.
Depends. Did you also singlehandedly turn around your company's performance and send profits soaring through the roof?
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Depends. Did you also singlehandedly turn around your company's performance and send profits soaring through the roof?
So, if Nellie had completely failed last season, would it have been ok for the Warriors to decide they didn't want to fulfill their contract this season, and refuse to pay him, or decide to pay him considerably less?
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Depends. Did you also singlehandedly turn around your company's performance and send profits soaring through the roof?
T.O. will do that this season. =O (With a little help from Romo)
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So, if Nellie had completely failed last season, would it have been ok for the Warriors to decide they didn't want to fulfill their contract this season, and refuse to pay him, or decide to pay him considerably less?
No, that's not the way these things work.
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No, that's not the way these things work.
lol. These things. Like this is something everyone does.

Threatening to retire unless the contract is renegotiated it also not how things work, for most people.
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GSW shoulda insisted that if he didn't get the team back to the 2nd round that he would haveta re-pay the raise.
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So, if Nellie had completely failed last season, would it have been ok for the Warriors to decide they didn't want to fulfill their contract this season, and refuse to pay him, or decide to pay him considerably less?
See, that's the thing.

And don't get me wrong, I would love to have a beer with Nellie. I think he's a funny guy. I love to listen to his interviews.

I just don't understand this way he has about him when it comes to money.

Oh hey, by the way, did Seah Peyton have a very public battle over wanting more money "or else" after leading the Saints to their most succesful year in franchise history?
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See, that's the thing.

And don't get me wrong, I would love to have a beer with Nellie. I think he's a funny guy. I love to listen to his interviews.

I just don't understand this way he has about him when it comes to money.

Oh hey, by the way, did Seah Peyton have a very public battle over wanting more money "or else" after leading the Saints to their most succesful year in franchise history?
Sean Payton is no Don Nelson. And the NFL is not the NBA.

I don't know why you guys can't just be happy for Nellie.
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I can be happy for him, but I still have to laugh that Golden State called his bluff.
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Nellie Agrees To New Deal With Golden State
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September 14, 2007 - 11:33 am
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Don Nelson said Thursday that he has reached an agreement in principle with the team on a reworked deal that will bring him back for at least one more season.

Nelson, who originally signed a three-year deal in August 2006, relented and accepted the team's initial offer made several weeks ago. His base salary for each of the remaining two years will jump to $5.1 million from $3.1 million, but the final season is now a team option rather than guaranteed cash.

"I'm excited to come back and coach the team," Nelson said. "The Bay Area's perfect for us (Nelson and his wife, Joy), I love working with Mully (executive vice president Chris Mullin), I love the staff. There's so many positives here."

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