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jthig32 · 10-14-2008, 03:13 PM

Adam Schefter on NFLN: Dallas Cowboys acquire WR Roy Williams in trade with Detroit

Teams working out details, trade involves draft picks and no players.

Link when I find one.

jthig32 · 10-14-2008, 03:16 PM

2nd rounders in 09 and '10, according to ESPN.

alby · 10-14-2008, 03:16 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643295

The Dallas Cowboys are close to a deal to acquire wide receiver Roy Williams from the Detroit Lions, a source told ESPN.com Tuesday. The trade would involve multiple draft picks but would not involve the Cowboys' first-round pick.

The Cowboys are also trying to negotitate a long-term deal with Williams before completing the deal. Williams has expressed unhappiness playing for the winless Lions and can become a free agent after the season unless the team places the franchise tag on him.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones believes Williams is a game-breaker who provides an immediate boost to a faltering offense without quarterback Tony Romo and views him as a potential long-term solution as the eventual replacement for aging Terrell Owens, according to another high-ranking Cowboys source.

The source said the Cowboys are willing to make the deal, but the Lions seem hesitant because they are operating without a general manager. Former GM Matt Millen had discussed the possibility of trading Williams with the Cowboys frequently before he was fired.

The Lions had been demanding a first-round draft choice just to consider a deal. The Cowboys could offer a second- and third-round pick, since they have multiple choices in the third round.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen, attending the meeting of league owners, reported that the Cowboys' NFC East rivals the Philadelphia Eagles have also made inquiries about Williams' availability.

However, Philadelphia is believed to be more interested in Kansas City Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez. The New York Giants and Green Bay Packers are also pursuing a deal with the Chiefs.

However, sources told ESPN's Michael Smith on Tuesday that it appeared very unlikely Gonzalez would be traded.

In Dallas, Jones is known for a failed deal in which he traded two No. 1 draft picks to the Seattle Seahawks for wide receiver Joey Galloway in an attempt to provide Troy Aikman one more chance at the Super Bowl. The Cowboys would like to find a way to avoid the two- to three-season span it seems to take to develop a young receiver for that role. But the Cowboys are concerned about how Owens would react to the addition of another prominent receiver and the possibility it would diminish his role rather than provide him occasional single coverage. The potential negative effect on the overall offensive chemistry is also a concern and some in the organization prefer to wait until the offseason to make such a move.

Either way, Jones definitely wants him and there have been very few times in his two decades of ownership that the Cowboys have failed to acquire a player Jones covets like he does Williams.

Ed Werder covers the NFL for ESPN.

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No specifics.

FINtastic · 10-14-2008, 03:17 PM

2 2nd rounders? Hmm, I think I'm down with that.

Considering Pacman just got suspended again and we have 50 million injured players, it's good to have some good news for once.

jthig32 · 10-14-2008, 03:18 PM

NFL Network is saying it's a 1st, 3rd and 6th.

Hmmm.

DirkFTW · 10-14-2008, 03:19 PM

Wooo! Now we just need a brick wall to protect Brad Johnson so he can sit back and heave TDs to Roy or TO!

jthig32 · 10-14-2008, 03:19 PM

Link

Dallas Cowboys acquire WR Roy Williams from Lions

03:13 PM CDT on Tuesday, October 14, 2008

By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News
tarcher@dallasnews.com
IRVING – Dallas Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones made no secret he wanted to add a receiver opposite Terrell Owens in the off-season. It just took until the final moments before the trade deadline to get it done.

The Cowboys on Tuesday acquired UT-ex Roy Williams from Detroit for first-, third- and sixth-round picks in 2009 while the Lions will kick back their seventh-rounder in 2009, moments before the 3 p.m. trade deadline, according to a source.

The move bolsters a passing game that is ranked fourth in the NFL but about to experience life without quarterback Tony Romo (fractured pinkie finger).
Williams, who turns 27 in December, has 17 catches for 232 yards and a touchdown for the 0-5 Lions. His best year came in 2006, the only season in which he played 16 games, when he caught 82 passes for 1,310 yards and seven touchdowns.

Williams is making $3.7 million and is in the last year of his contract, which made it difficult to complete a trade. Williams is seeking a big extension. However, the Cowboys could use the franchise tag on him if necessary, which would essentially block him from free agency.

In the off-season, the Cowboys signed Owens to a four-year extension worth $34 million that included a $12.9 million signing bonus.

chumdawg · 10-14-2008, 03:20 PM

Yeeha!

Dtownsfinest · 10-14-2008, 03:21 PM

Roy Williams and TO? Not to mention Crayton, Austin and Witten? We have the best receiving core in the league. If not the best top 2. Its all up to Brad. We probably still would've traded for Roy but we were finished if we had to rely on Crayton and TO to get open and have Brad sit in the pocket with no one to throw it to.

chumdawg · 10-14-2008, 03:21 PM

I hopes it OUR third rounder, and not the one we picked up last year. (Was it Detroit, or Cleveland, we got that from?)

FINtastic · 10-14-2008, 03:22 PM

And after getting shut down by all that double coverage, I don't think Owens should worry about this diminishing his role. I think Owens should realize that teams don't care about any other receivers on the team because they aren't gamebreakers and have been focusing on taking away the big plays from Owens. Williams will should help Owens out a lot.

alby · 10-14-2008, 03:23 PM

I'm glad we didn't give them Flo or Barber.

DirkFTW · 10-14-2008, 03:26 PM

I agree. He's got to be happy about not seeing 2-3 opposing jerseys every time he runs down field.

Dear Tony Romo:

Your teammates are incredibly sorry about laying your behind out to dry the last few weeks... ultimately resulting in your broken pinky. As a get-well-soon present, the team and I pitched in to get you this shiny new receiver, fully compatible with your other receivers!

Love,
Jerry

P.S. - Once you're better, I better not see you standing around, one-handing the football like a putz.

jthig32 · 10-14-2008, 03:28 PM

Nevermind.

jthig32 · 10-14-2008, 03:30 PM

ESPN still has people on TV saying we did not send the 1st round pick.

alby · 10-14-2008, 03:32 PM

If a 1st rounder was included: I think it's a push on value but it helps us because of the team's need.
If a 1st rounder was not included: It's a downright steal and Detroit should be begging for Millen back =P

Dtownsfinest · 10-14-2008, 03:32 PM

1st, 3rd and 6th? Ouch.

Flacolaco · 10-14-2008, 03:33 PM

This makes the Cowboys by far....even further, the most stacked team in the league. When everyone gets healthy I bet this thing will be better than fine with time to spare before the playoffs.

alby · 10-14-2008, 03:33 PM

^ Yeah, it's a lot to give up... sigh

at least, its all in one year

FINtastic · 10-14-2008, 03:37 PM

Well even if it was a bit much to give up, I think the Cowboys are at a point where they need to gamble and go all in. And while good, the offense did seem to be missing something so at least we have a new wrinkle for opposing defenses to try to figure out now. I normally don't like giving up draft picks, but I think the time is now to try and win this thing.

LonghornDub · 10-14-2008, 03:37 PM

Beautiful trade, even for a first rounder. I love you Roy.

chumdawg · 10-14-2008, 03:37 PM

Plus, sometimes a 2nd round pick just gets you a guy like Fasano or Bennett...

alby · 10-14-2008, 03:38 PM

I think they were missing an offensive line that could pass protect.

FINtastic · 10-14-2008, 03:39 PM

Oh, and...

"Get your popcorn ready."

~Terrell Owens

jthig32 · 10-14-2008, 03:39 PM

Keep in mind they still have that extra third, and an extra fifth because of Pacman getting suspended.

alby · 10-14-2008, 03:40 PM

is that how TO reacted?

FINtastic · 10-14-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

I think they were missing an offensive line that could pass protect.

Yeah, I do think there are problems there. But I can't remember the line being this bad all season as they were against the Cards. Maybe my memory is foggy, but was the line that bad the other weeks? I don't recall them being stellar the weeks prior, but I thought they were at least doing somewhat decent.

Dtownsfinest · 10-14-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

If a 1st rounder was included: I think it's a push on value but it helps us because of the team's need.
If a 1st rounder was not included: It's a downright steal and Detroit should be begging for Millen back =P

Yea that 1st rounder hurts. But aside from this year I haven't been impressed with a 1st round pick since Demarcus Ware and that includes Marcus Spears, Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Spencer who the jury is still out on. Its safe to say Roy Williams next season is gonna be better than anyone we can get in next years draft. That's how I look at it. If we get a 5th round back for the Pac-Man incident I like this trade. I like it regardless I just hate the fact of giving up 3 potential rookies for one guy. Thank goodness Roy is still in his 20's atleast.

I hear people talknig about TO but he should be the happiest guy in the world right now. No more double teams. A fool would leave Roy in single coverage.

FINtastic · 10-14-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

is that how TO reacted?

No, but it's how I reacted.

Give TO time, and I bet he agrees.

nikeball · 10-14-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Beautiful trade, even for a first rounder. I love you Roy.

I love Roy too. But 1, 3, 6th round picks are a lot to give up...and Roy has been injured a good deal in the NFL.

and with Romo sidelined...it will take some time to develop a chemistry. Hopefully this makes Tony heal faster! Get well soon Tony!

FINtastic · 10-14-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Yea that 1st rounder hurts. But aside from this year I haven't been impressed with a 1st round pick since Demarcus Ware and that includes Marcus Spears, Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Spencer who the jury is still out on. Its safe to say Roy Williams next season is gonna be better than anyone we can get in next years draft. That's how I look at it. If we get a 5th round back for the Pac-Man incident I like this trade. I like it regardless I just hate the fact of giving up 3 potential rookies for one guy. Thank goodness Roy is still in his 20's atleast.

I hear people talknig about TO but he should be the happiest guy in the world right now. No more double teams. A fool would leave Roy in single coverage.

I agree here. In the end, the draft comes down to having good players fall in your lap that fit your holes. One of the very few holes the Cowboys have right now is at wide receiver (especially when you consider that they have an aging TO), and they just managed to fill it. We could have waited and hoped the wide receiver fell to us in the draft, but what are the odds of that? So then you get in a situation where you take a gamble and reach on a wide receiver which may bust, or you do like we did this year and not address the wide receiver position at all. Cowboys are deep at a lot of positions these days so I say trade a few picks if you can truly address an area of need.

Dtownsfinest · 10-14-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nikeball

I love Roy too. But 1, 3, 6th round picks are a lot to give up...and Roy has been injured a good deal in the NFL.

and with Romo sidelined...it will take some time to develop a chemistry. Hopefully this makes Tony heal faster! Get well soon Tony!

Well we had two #3's next year and we just got a pick for Pac-Man which is a #5. So for me I look at it as we're basically giving up a #1. I don't like the fact of giving up so much potential youth and when you do that you never succeed but we had some draft picks we could afford to lose and this team has been pretty good about getting guys in every round of the draft. Jay Ratliff was a #7, Romo undrafted, Barber in the 4th round, etc. So i'm not really too concerned about the #1. Not to mention Roy Williams is better than anyone in the draft next season and definately better than anyone we would be drafting. Especially if we're drafting guys like Bobby Carpenter.

Windmill360 · 10-14-2008, 03:53 PM

cross your fingers.

Murphy3 · 10-14-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

is that how TO reacted?

He's probably doing jumping jacks.. his job just got a million times easier.

Windmill360 · 10-14-2008, 03:57 PM

no kidding. Everyone's job got a little easier.

jthig32 · 10-14-2008, 03:58 PM

Well, I'm not sure it's safe to assume TO is having a logical response to this, or anything.

But I sure hope he does.

LonghornDub · 10-14-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nikeball

I love Roy too. But 1, 3, 6th round picks are a lot to give up...and Roy has been injured a good deal in the NFL.

and with Romo sidelined...it will take some time to develop a chemistry. Hopefully this makes Tony heal faster! Get well soon Tony!

I'm actually not so sure it's a lot to give up. A draft pick is a gamble--some players pan out, some don't. Trading a mid-late first round draft pick for a proven first round talent (who is still very young) is a wise choice, IMO. You go from something that may pan out to something that almost surely will.

Dtownsfinest · 10-14-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

I agree here. In the end, the draft comes down to having good players fall in your lap that fit your holes. One of the very few holes the Cowboys have right now is at wide receiver (especially when you consider that they have an aging TO), and they just managed to fill it. We could have waited and hoped the wide receiver fell to us in the draft, but what are the odds of that? So then you get in a situation where you take a gamble and reach on a wide receiver which may bust, or you do like we did this year and not address the wide receiver position at all. Cowboys are deep at a lot of positions these days so I say trade a few picks if you can truly address an area of need.

Yea that's another thing. I'm not sure where else you could go with this team as far as draft picks go. I mean every position can be upgraded but we can afford to give up some draft picks. Especially since we have a lot of additional ones.

Dtownsfinest · 10-14-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I'm actually not so sure it's a lot to give up. A draft pick is a gamble--some players pan out, some don't. Trading a mid-late first round draft pick for a proven first round talent (who is still very young) is a wise choice, IMO. You go from something that may pan out to something that almost surely will.

And as said as this may sound I would be more pissed about giving up a 4th in the deal than any other pick. Well maybe not a #1 but it seems the 4th round of drafts have become the most valuable drafts not only for this team but for the NFL. You rarely see those giving up and rightfully so. Its usually full of players who have 1st round talent but either got injured his senior season, off the field problems or had a bad senior season.

Dtownsfinest · 10-14-2008, 04:15 PM

I'm watching ESPN, anyone ever seen a Breaking News ticker involve two topics about the same team lol?