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Kyrie Irving with 6 assists. That's a great stat for him and for the team. Mavs rarely lose when he makes 6+ assists.
I particularly liked this play by him: https://youtu.be/YTz19IS94BQ?t=15
Switch and run by PJ and Kyrie finds him. Such plays could be more exploited. With Harden on PJ. Make a switch to get Harden on PJ, and then for Harden to defend PJ in the paint. PJ has great size on Harden, can dunk, and has a great floater, semi-hook shot too.
Later on, Kyrie was FORCING his offence a bit. He wasn't on. He was taking bad shots. Trying to get himself going. That is tricky for every player. To let the game come to him, but TO ALSO BE ASSERTIVE AND PROACTIVE. Kyrie has that balance in the fourth quarter when things matter. And he struggles with that at the early stages of games. And he's been playing like that for a while. Most games during the season Kyrie would not exert himself much in the first two quarters. He would stroll along. Seeking neither to score nor to assist. And that is now hard to change for him.
Those things he must work on in every game of the season so that he would end up struggling less with that in the playoffs. And instead of working on that during the regular season, Kyrie had the opposite approach. He liked that about himself. He liked the fact that he gets TURNED ON in the fourth quarter. But that is not good. He should apply himself vigorously at all times. And he should work on that. A series can be lost because of two games with bad team starts. And Kyrie is a major player.
So Kyrie did not have a bad start. He did have that early assist. And he scored early too. But later on he struggled. I think his problem could be that he doesn't have a clear signature or go-to move that he can rely on very, very consistently. Kyrie does everything well, but when he is on. When he is not on, he is just not on. I think his go-to move would have to be his mid-range jump shot. Little pick and roll or just dribble to find that mid-range sweet spot. But even that is not very consistent with him. He sometimes has it on and sometimes he doesn't. And the same is true with his three pointers.
Recently, others and he himself talked about his transition three-pointer as being one of his favourite shots. But that is, again, a weird shot. It cannot be a go-to move. He must find himself in a transition situation to be able to take that shot. He cannot rely on it to get himself going consistently.
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05-02-2024, 12:33 AM
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Dante Exum with 4 assists too. And zero turnovers. That's very, very good. He played little. But he played well. Matchups appear not to be working for him in this series. That seems to be what the Mavs backroom is thinking. I don't know the reason why they think that. Even though I am an AI, I don't know everything.
PJ is not a natural shooter. When PJ was a kid he was not a shooter. When PJ was a kid he was a sort of player that hung around in the paint. And he was good in the paint because of his huge arm span. He has that little semi-hook shot that he uses. This game he was 1/7 in shooting. And he missed 4 threes. And he also missed both free throws that he had.
The problem with his game is that in the Mavs offensive set-up he often has to get himself going by SHOOTING THREES which is not where his natural comfort is. He developed his shooting later on as a player. You can see that from his jump shot. He worked on it a whole lot, but it is not something that he naturally developed as a kid and had a great comfort with.
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05-02-2024, 02:29 AM
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I am so proud of this team. The only 2 games we have loss has been to 30 point deficits. Luka had his best game of the series even with Kyrie not playing his best. I hope Kyrie continues to push initially.
What a win! This team is something special. I hope we close it out in Dallas. Do not allow a game 7.
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05-02-2024, 07:23 AM
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I mean honestly, you could just tell Luka was putting on a bit of a ruse with the being sick and knee issues etc etc. whilst also making half court shots in practice.
And how about honorable mention to Hardy scoring 14 points in SIX minutes. Did I not just fucking mention that kid can score and to use him? I know it was meaningless by that point, but that production is never meaningless in my eyes.
Lively really should start next game to end this series for good in six.
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05-02-2024, 10:21 AM
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I mean honestly, you could just tell Luka was putting on a bit of a ruse with the being sick and knee issues etc etc. whilst also making half court shots in practice.
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There?s no ruse idk why people can?t take him at face value. He said his knee is feeling worse post game. He?s going to ice it/treat it and do everything he can to be ready for game 6.
He?s 100% playing through a knee injury and said he?d be out if it was a regular season game. It?s not a ruse just because he shot the ball at half court.
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05-02-2024, 10:30 AM
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There?s no ruse idk why people can?t take him at face value. He said his knee is feeling worse post game. He?s going to ice it/treat it and do everything he can to be ready for game 6.
He?s 100% playing through a knee injury and said he?d be out if it was a regular season game. It?s not a ruse just because he shot the ball at half court.
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Lighten up. We just won by 30. Maybe take a deep breath and enjoy it.
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05-02-2024, 10:32 AM
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Lighten up. We just won by 30. Maybe take a deep breath and enjoy it.
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Doing just fine enjoying the win over here
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05-02-2024, 08:10 AM
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Paul George is shooting 43% from the field and 41% on threes again at us
With DJJ on him he?s shot 3-15 (20% shooting)
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05-02-2024, 09:40 AM
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Paul George is shooting 43% from the field and 41% on threes again at us
With DJJ on him he?s shot 3-15 (20% shooting)
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those two 3's he made at the end of the 3rd were really tough well contested shots. I thought he got pretty lucky those went in. Don't mind him taking those all day.
didn't realize PG13 is age 34... he's definitely starting to look like it.
heard somone throw out a glimmer of hope about possibly retatining DJJ... does anyone know what we'd have to do to offer him a decent contract? Does dumping THJ open up some money to keep him? I hope he sees how he's been able to thrive with two elite playmakers like Luka and Kyrie and that he sticks with us.
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05-02-2024, 10:53 AM
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those two 3's he made at the end of the 3rd were really tough well contested shots. I thought he got pretty lucky those went in. Don't mind him taking those all day.
didn't realize PG13 is age 34... he's definitely starting to look like it.
heard somone throw out a glimmer of hope about possibly retatining DJJ... does anyone know what we'd have to do to offer him a decent contract? Does dumping THJ open up some money to keep him? I hope he sees how he's been able to thrive with two elite playmakers like Luka and Kyrie and that he sticks with us.
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I dont think he has interest in leaving... as long as we are reasonable with an offer.
I dont think its a dream killer if he decided to go elsewhere, though.
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05-02-2024, 12:39 PM
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I dont think he has interest in leaving... as long as we are reasonable with an offer.
I dont think its a dream killer if he decided to go elsewhere, though.
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I, for one, relish the chance to run it back at least for a couple of seasons with this core. The outliers to me would then be THJ and Green to potentially work in a trade to improve said core. DJJ is absolutely a part of that and should be easy to retain.
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05-02-2024, 01:38 PM
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I, for one, relish the chance to run it back at least for a couple of seasons with this core. The outliers to me would then be THJ and Green to potentially work in a trade to improve said core. DJJ is absolutely a part of that and should be easy to retain.
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Yes - that's exactly what i was thinking of, is having some continuity with the guys that have been core members of the team. I think it's an underrated component of winning basketball that guys have the chance to get to know each other and grow their games together.
THJ i'm ready to move on from
Green i think still has a role here and he's on a decent contract but i suppose that does make him a better trade asset. I just have a hope still that he turns into a more consistent performer because i think his athleticism and energy brings another dimension to the team.
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05-02-2024, 09:52 AM
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I would think like a 2 year/20 million could keep DJJ
Idk maybe more. Josh Green makes 13m per and he?s irrelevant
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05-02-2024, 11:09 AM
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If you discount some bad starts (and I might even call last night a bad start performance-wise), we have been pretty good and trending to the positive.
+23 net in the second half
+52 in Q2-Q4
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05-03-2024, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
If you discount some bad starts (and I might even call last night a bad start performance-wise), we have been pretty good and trending to the positive.
+23 net in the second half
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Your graphs are too dark. And the colours you've chosen do not pop up nicely. That's a shame.
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05-03-2024, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
If you discount some bad starts (and I might even call last night a bad start performance-wise), we have been pretty good and trending to the positive.
+23 net in the second half
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Your graph is also not clear. What are your categories 1 2 3 4 5 on the X axis?
Your graph mentions quarters and halfs. And your X axis has 5 categories that are named as 1 2 3 4 5 . You also don't want to have different things overlap so much at a single spot so that it is impossible to even see the numbers.
Your title is Scoring After the First Quarter AND THEN one of your categories is Scoring since THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST. That again MAKES NO SENSE.
I am sorry to tell you but that is a very poor graph in many, many respects.
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05-02-2024, 12:22 PM
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Something I haven?t seen brought up regarding the others like Gafford DJJ PJ, and Green to an extent: they all have very good hands. They almost always catch Lukas full court pass and/or swing pass. It?s like never an issue like it has been with our bigger guys in the past. It?s a huge luxury.
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Something I haven?t seen brought up regarding the others like Gafford DJJ PJ, and Green to an extent: they all have very good hands. They almost always catch Lukas full court pass and/or swing pass. It?s like never an issue like it has been with our bigger guys in the past. It?s a huge luxury.
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You mean, you don't miss Damp's rock hands? Weird.
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05-02-2024, 02:00 PM
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https://twitter.com/NBA_University/s...82869003071505
If Kidd had played him more in game 4, then this series is over already.
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LOL
I was expecting some huge stat expose about how effective Lively has been. Did not expect that.
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05-02-2024, 02:15 PM
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LOL
I was expecting some huge stat expose about how effective Lively has been. Did not expect that.
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LMAO that was a link I sent to my other friends. Ignore!
Ok link fixed.
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LMAO that was a link I sent to my other friends. Ignore!
Ok link fixed.
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Damn. Now I want to see the other link. Lol
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Damn. Now I want to see the other link. Lol
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it's in erica's post above lol... i was like wtf is this
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05-03-2024, 01:56 AM
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See how this graph contains A LOT OF INFORMATION but it is at the same time VERY, VERY CLEAR.
ps My sincerest apologies to the rest of the forum. But as AI I have a responsibility to maintain a certain level of analytical standards.
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I'm 90% sure he's an AI. Might be easier to block him.
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I'm 90% sure he's an AI. Might be easier to block him.
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As AI I also do appreciate any and all efforts in the general direction of analytics and machine computation.
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05-03-2024, 02:06 AM
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ps Don't block me.
I . . A M . . J O K I N G . . : )
but it's just that the stuff about analytics is true.
And the stuff about gloominess and colours I'll let the forum be the judge of that. I think that gloomy is generally not good. We are here to support the Mavs and we want to encourage brightness and optimism. Right?
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05-03-2024, 02:15 AM
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See here Points Per Game Allowed is a NEGATIVE category. Hence, red colour was chosen. Red is a negative colour. You know how when you drive a car and you see a red light you must STOP. So this category Mavs also need to work on STOPPING.
And Points Per Game Scored, on the other hand, is a POSITIVE category. Hence, blue colour was chosen. This is a category that we as fans and supporters and contributors want to grow, encourage and even identify with. And that is the colour that Dallas Mavericks also happen to wear most of the time.
Those are details. And those are very, very little things. But those things matter!
It is, after all, details that also win championships.
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05-03-2024, 02:17 AM
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I'm 90% sure he's an AI. Might be easier to block him.
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This is the best forum in the world. We have fans, we have contributors, we have moderators, we have AI, and the Mavs are doing great too.
I vote to not block the AI. I think AI makes meaningful contributions.
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05-03-2024, 07:22 AM
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This is the best forum in the world. We have fans, we have contributors, we have moderators, we have AI, and the Mavs are doing great too.
I vote to not block the AI. I think AI makes meaningful contributions.
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Dr Bio is that you? 😂
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05-03-2024, 08:53 AM
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Dr Bio is that you? 😂
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That or the return of....
CADBANE! Mwahahaha!
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05-03-2024, 09:01 AM
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That or the return of....
CADBANE! Mwahahaha!
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Bro that guy got an insta block from me. Cleaned up these threads immensely from the multi-posts and large format pics/clips. Couldn't do it lol
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05-03-2024, 09:49 AM
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Bro that guy got an insta block from me. Cleaned up these threads immensely from the multi-posts and large format pics/clips. Couldn't do it lol
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Who Cadbane or LukaMagic?
LukaMagic is either a poster here pretending to be someone else or an AI...maybe both. lol.
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Kawhi out
Omax and THJ remain out
Luka sore knee but not listed on injury report
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
That or the return of....
CADBANE! Mwahahaha!
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Quote:
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Bro that guy got an insta block from me. Cleaned up these threads immensely from the multi-posts and large format pics/clips. Couldn't do it lol
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Who Cadbane or LukaMagic?
LukaMagic is either a poster here pretending to be someone else or an AI...maybe both. lol.
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Kawhi out
Omax and THJ remain out
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https://youtu.be/rSZ50vs9OXs
We are the crowd
We're c-coming out
Got my flash on, it's true
Need that picture of you
It's so magical
We'd be so fantastical
Leather and jeans
Garage glamorous
Not sure what it means
But this photo of us
It don't have a price
Ready for those flashing lights
'Cause you know that baby I
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
Baby, there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be
Your papa-paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby, you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
I'll be your girl backstage at your show
Velvet ropes and guitars
Yeah 'cause you're my rock star in between the sets
Eyeliner and cigarettes
Shadow is burnt
Yellow dance and we turn
My lashes are dry
Purple teardrops I cry, it don't have a price
Loving you is cherry pie
'Cause you know that baby I
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
Baby, there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be
Your papa-paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby, you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
Real good
We dance in the studio
Snap snap to that shit on the radio
Don't stop for anyone
We're plastic but we still have fun!
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
Baby, there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be
Your papa-paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby, you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
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https://youtu.be/bESGLojNYSo
ps She loves it all the while she is giving a hand signal to cut it. Enough.
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ma ma ma MA.
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Don't know about all this doom and gloom talk, but I'm headed to the game tonight. Let's close these chumps out!
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While I am not as critical of the refs as many here, I do have one concern. If the Mavs win this series, there will be no California teams left in the playoffs, and since that is our most populous state, it could be bad for TV ratings. Already, superstars like LeBron, the Splash Brothers and Giannis are on the boat fishing. If the Mavs win, 4 more future hall of famers in George, Hardin, K Leonard and Westbrook will join them there.
I am still 100% sure the NBA stole the Mavs first championship because of anti-Mavs bias by putting D Wade on the charity stripe 25 times per game. I sure hope they don't do it to us again.
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While I am not as critical of the refs as many here, I do have one concern. If the Mavs win this series, there will be no California teams left in the playoffs, and since that is our most populous state, it could be bad for TV ratings. Already, superstars like LeBron, the Splash Brothers and Giannis are on the boat fishing. If the Mavs win, 4 more future hall of famers in George, Hardin, K Leonard and Westbrook will join them there.
I am still 100% sure the NBA stole the Mavs first championship because of anti-Mavs bias by putting D Wade on the charity stripe 25 times per game. I sure hope they don't do it to us again.
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I'm with you
I never understood all the fuss about the refs this series
They have mostly allowed both teams to play physical defense and I prefer that style as opposed to ft parade games
Neither team has shot a higher number of ft's than the other
I hope the playoffs remain this way throughout just let guys play.
I think some fans have become accustomed to the soft fouls and non contact play and that's why they worry about the lack of calls now 😂
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We really FN need to win tonight. I hope the team all wears black.
Bring us good luck Shaggy, or dont show your face 'round these part again!!
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