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What about a Daniels/SNT KVH to Denver for Martin?
Martin is overpaid yes, but he can play some very good D when healthy. I know I would want the doctors to approve of this, but what do people think of the trade. Linueup of: PG - Harris/Terry SG - Howard/Stack/Griff SF - Martin/ Howard/Stack PF - Dirk/Martin/Powell C -- four headed monster Thoughts? Would Denver do it? <Edit> Would this improve the Defense, and the nastiness of the team? Last edited by dalmations202; 06-26-2006 at 04:56 PM. |
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06-26-2006, 04:56 PM
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we dont need a pf that makes the max other than the one we already have.
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06-26-2006, 05:28 PM
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No, why spend so much on the second best power forward you'd have on the team, when you have more need of improvement other places.
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06-26-2006, 06:18 PM
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Yeah, too much money and he never stays healthy.
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06-26-2006, 10:28 PM
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He's NOT going to want to play backup PF minutes (and quite frankly, there won't be many to be had anyway) and I'd rather not trade Quis unless we're getting a good role player or swingman in return.. preferably both in one.
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06-26-2006, 10:40 PM
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Trading for a backup at a positiong where dirk is going to get ALL of the minutes doesn't make a whole lotta sense to me.
He's already worn out his welcome on two teams as well. No and nope.
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06-26-2006, 10:41 PM
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Can a SnT player be combined with another player?
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06-26-2006, 11:43 PM
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I would not advocate trading for an injured player, ever. That does not make sense to me. However, I can see where Martin (if he was healthy and he most certainly is not) could really help the Mavs. He has the ability to play the 3, 4 or occasionally the 5 spot on defense. He used to be a shut down defender with some ability to score in the low post but mostly off of alley oops and the like. He used to run the floor aggressively and finished spectacularly. He used to be able to rebound very well. He used to be able to guard guys like Amare, Duncan, Nowitzki, etc. If he wasn't injured he would be a terrific player to use at small forward or at PF when Dirk was resting. If, If, If, If, If...................Of course, If he was healthy Denver would want to keep him.
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06-27-2006, 07:39 AM
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The only player I want from the Nuggets roster is Nene Hilario....
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06-27-2006, 08:22 AM
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I'll admit that I made an assumption that you could, but have no idea. |
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06-27-2006, 10:06 AM
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Question?
Is GP and I the only people on this board that think, if healthy, that Martin could play the SF position? At least play the SF on defense, on offense, Dirk plays it anyway, and he could play the inside post threat - dunk the basketball - on offense. I have been convinced that he probably is not the best choice, but am confused by how many people seem to think he is just a PF. I wouldn't even consider him to be one of the better PF in the league. He is 6'9", not 7' or thereabouts. He is known as a tenacious defender, and I don't remember the offense ever having to run through him. He was pretty good at crashing boards, etc. I would think that a lineup of: Harris, Howard, Martin (before the knee), Dirk, Diop would be very good defensively against nearly all teams due to all the athleticism there. Thoughts? |
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06-27-2006, 11:24 AM
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I don't think Martin was ever quick enough to match up with the quicker small forwards--now that he's had knee problems, I'm not sure he could march well with almost any small forwards.
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06-27-2006, 01:04 PM
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Yeah, I don't think he'd be able to match up with SF's especially with the knee troubles.
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06-27-2006, 01:10 PM
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Hes an undersized 4 and he cant play any other position. He is what tyrus thomas will be in 3 years.
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06-27-2006, 06:09 PM
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Nah, Tyrus Thomas will be better.
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06-27-2006, 07:12 PM
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Tyrus cant do a single thing besides jump well on a basketball court.
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06-27-2006, 08:09 PM
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There might not be a player in this draft who has as successful of a career as Kenyon. Whether you like him or not you have to admit he was a pretty danged good player. Plus, every one of these draft picks are shorter than what the sports writers are saying. I keep reading where Tyrus is 6'9". Well, according to the Pre-draft measurements found at draft express (sorry I don't know how to do links) he is really 6'7 1/4 ". For a power forward that is pitifully short. So when he plays against a guy like Dirk he is giving up a minimum of 5 inches in height. I think the small forwards in this draft are even worse. Ever hear of a 6'3" small forward? That is what some of these guys are projected as. I read one writeup talking up a guy that was a legit 6'6". I looked it up. He was 6'4 1/2". In this draft I think it is buyer beware. These guys are so bad that the analysts are trying to latch onto anything positive. I just don't know about this draft. I wouldn't be surprised if less than 10 players ever made a meaningful impact out of this draft.
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