Starting Lineup

[DIRK BRASIL]

My favorite:

C - Fortson
PF - Dirk
SF - Wal
SG - Fin
PG - Nash

DIRK IS PF OR SF!!!

[Simon2]

I like Nash, Fin, Walker, Dirk and Bradley.

[Chiwas]

Nash/Delk/Best
Finley/Daniels
Jamison/Howard
Dirk/Najera
Walker/Bradley/Fortson


Edit:

Starting and backups.

Walker would be an experiment. If not then

Dirk/Walker/Najera
Bradley/Fortson

[LRB]

Originally posted by: Simon2
I like Nash, Fin, Walker, Dirk and Bradley.

Mine to. Let's hope the Mantis returns to health soon so that this can be an option. I just don't have high hopes of Nellie using it very often even if Bradley is healthy.

[V]

.... Starting lineup....

Nash
Finley
Howard
Walker
Nowitzki

.... Key Lineup unless a backup PG is determined ....

Walker
Finley
Howard
Jamison
Nowitzki

... Earning Significant Bench Minutes ....

Best/Delk (whoever earns it... I would prefer if Best - a natural PG - would come around)
Jamison
Bradley

[V]

Originally posted by: LRB

Mine to. Let's hope the Mantis returns to health soon so that this can be an option. I just don't have high hopes of Nellie using it very often even if Bradley is healthy.

I like that lineup too... problem is Bradley cannot play starters minutes in this league. As you know he's most effective when limited to 24 minutes or less. Remember he only averaged about 28 minutes when we saw the best Bradley of his career early last season... This year he'll be playing catchup all season & I don't expect him to get more than 12-14 minutes a night.

[LRB]

Originally posted by: V

I like that lineup too... problem is Bradley cannot play starters minutes in this league. As you know he's most effective when limited to 24 minutes or less. Remember he only averaged about 28 minutes when we saw the best Bradley of his career early last season... This year he'll be playing catchup all season & I don't expect him to get more than 12-14 minutes a night.

Bradley will need a few games to get back into game shape if he's healthy now. But he would be most effective playing between 20 to 25 minutes per night on average. I would like to see Shawn played in 4 to 5 minutes increments and then sit for at least that long so that he stays rested. He should easily be able to give us the 20 to 25 minutes per night if Nellie would follow this or a similar pattern.

[uberfan]

KG posted this rotation below in another location. To me it makes the best sense with our current roster. I would suggest Fortson match up against Rose when we play SA and have him match up against Shaq and Brand.

If you can take everyone else and come up with one seviceable 6'10" guy, then I would do that. Otherwise, stick with this rotation for the rest of the year barring any serious injuries.

If you could get 25 minutes a game out of Bradley and then work Daniels in INSTEAD of Delk or Best for 10-15 minutes a night, I think you'd have a nice rotation come playoff time:

Nowitzki 23 - Bradley 25
Walker 33 - Nowitzki 15
Jamison 30 - Walker 5 - Howard 13
Finley 35 - Howard 13
Nash 33 - Daniels 15

Sure, Daniels is a rookie, but he is a pretty efficient scorer who can defend, rebound, pass, shoot, and PLAY better than Delk or Best.

[V]

Originally posted by: LRB

Bradley will need a few games to get back into game shape if he's healthy now. But he would be most effective playing between 20 to 25 minutes per night on average. I would like to see Shawn played in 4 to 5 minutes increments and then sit for at least that long so that he stays rested. He should easily be able to give us the 20 to 25 minutes per night if Nellie would follow this or a similar pattern.

I would agree if we were talking about almost any other player. It seems to me that Bradley needs to work hard & extensively to get into the type of playing shape that Nelly would like to see. Two summers ago Bradley went ballz out all summer, trying all sorts of quickness drills & conditioning routine; he opened the season looking like a new player and he played 28-29 effective minutes a night.

Rewind to the prior year & Bradley never got into game shape - and rarely played - all season.

I hope I'm wrong. I would love to see Bradley contribute 25 minutes, shore up the middle, and end all these ridiculous trade rumors for everyone from Rasheed Wallace to Melvin effin Ely... but I won't be convinced until I see it. I'm afraid we may have to wait another year to see another Bradley resurgence.

[sike]

Originally posted by: LRB

Bradley will need a few games to get back into game shape if he's healthy now. But he would be most effective playing between 20 to 25 minutes per night on average. I would like to see Shawn played in 4 to 5 minutes increments and then sit for at least that long so that he stays rested. He should easily be able to give us the 20 to 25 minutes per night if Nellie would follow this or a similar pattern.

I love Bradley going at about 20 a game......also, I like him in a backup role. I think he seems to be more disruptive off the bench as a big change of pace....

so starters would be:

Nash(no questions here)
Finley(far more comfortable and effective at the 2)
Howard(looks great playing with Nash, and the defense is nice!)
Jamison(think he fits better with Nash's game....not Walker bashing, just see his game fitting well with Nash)
Dirk(cant believe I just did this...but he's got to play somewhere...and I prefer Bradley as a Backup....plus I feel a healthy Dirk is better than most center in this league defensively and boarding etc....just dont hurt those ankles big guy!)

still play Walker 32-38 minutes a game...but use him when Nash is out and as the blasted "point forward" and when Howard is out and Jamison is out.....THis would give Walker more time handling the ball(for all you walker lovers) and still keep his numbers up....I am not sure that he would respond to well to this, as a matter of fact, I dont think he would respond nearly as well as Jamison did....but I do think it would highly benefit the team to get Jamison as many starts as possible!

this will never happen though, Nellie is in love with Walker!

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: sike

I love Bradley going at about 20 a game......also, I like him in a backup role. I think he seems to be more disruptive off the bench as a big change of pace....

so starters would be:

Nash(no questions here)
Finley(far more comfortable and effective at the 2)
Howard(looks great playing with Nash, and the defense is nice!)
Jamison(think he fits better with Nash's game....not Walker bashing, just see his game fitting well with Nash)
Dirk(cant believe I just did this...but he's got to play somewhere...and I prefer Bradley as a Backup....plus I feel a healthy Dirk is better than most center in this league defensively and boarding etc....just dont hurt those ankles big guy!)

still play Walker 32-38 minutes a game...but use him when Nash is out and as the blasted "point forward" and when Howard is out and Jamison is out.....THis would give Walker more time handling the ball(for all you walker lovers) and still keep his numbers up....I am not sure that he would respond to well to this, as a matter of fact, I dont think he would respond nearly as well as Jamison did....but I do think it would highly benefit the team to get Jamison as many starts as possible!

this will never happen though, Nellie is in love with Walker!

Walker would, believe it or not, agree to this. Why?

1.) He's looking for a new contract

and

2.) HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THIS FRANCHISE LIKE HE DID IN BOSTON



'nuff said.

[kg_veteran]

Walker would, believe it or not, agree to this. Why?

1.) He's looking for a new contract

and

2.) HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THIS FRANCHISE LIKE HE DID IN BOSTON



'nuff said.

You say this as if it's fact.

[mavs_afroman]

The lineup that I would love to end games with is:

Nash
Fin
Howard
Dirk
Bradley

If Bradley can get back to the form he had early last season.

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran

You say this as if it's fact.

I wish it were fact, KG. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

But I just feel that this is more likely than Walker "destroying" the Team from the inside out, don't you think?

I'm merely providing theories that do have some validity to them based on what I've seen during his long 7 seasons with Boston.

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: mavs_afroman
The lineup that I would love to end games with is:

Nash
Fin
Howard
Dirk
Bradley

If Bradley can get back to the form he had early last season.

Hmmm....both AnTwins on the bench? Interesting....

[StupidDannyAInge]

Walker would, believe it or not, agree to this. Why?

1.) He's looking for a new contract

and

2.) HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THIS FRANCHISE LIKE HE DID IN BOSTON
'nuff said.

Walker is looking for a new contract but I also watched him for 7 years in Boston and he likes to win too.
I could see him taking less money to play for a team where he will be allowed to play without being nit picked on a daily basis for stuff he wasn't even doing (like in Boston)

Antoine had no control over the franchise in Boston.
He would have done anything Jim O'Brien would have asked of him because at the time he respected that man.
(I personally don't know how he could respect him now but this is my personal opinion)

[Simon2]

As for Bradley, I always thought he got the short end of the stick with Nellie. Nellie would always put him in his doghouse or bench him for long stretches of games. I think Bradley is the most mistreated of players under Nellie. Some people would say that only Nellie would give Bradley a chance? BS. There are a lot of coaches, especially in the East who would like to have Bradley. Maybe its because Bradley is hurt this year but when Nellie says that they need contributions from Bradley and he doesn't play, that's a bunch of horsecrap to me. I would like to see Bradley as a regular in the rotation. He probably would be if he was healthy this year. Bradley is a true center and he can contribute.

[SeriousSummer]

Starting line-up:

Nash
Finley
Jamison
Walker
Nowitzki

(Put the best players out there and let them go--duh! I think too many of you have Nellie's disease and think clever coaching is more important than quality players)

That was easy. Now the reserves, that's harder. Howard is the sixth man and plays big minutes, effectively backing up everything but the 5 and the 1.

That wasn't so hard either, now it gets tougher. Bradley and Fortson share the overwhelming majority of the back-up time at center. Bradley if there's a tall guy on the other team; Fortson if they have a muscle guy. On the very rare occasions when the other side doesn't have anybody on the floor that either of these guys can match up against and you have to rest Dirk, then go small either with Najera or with a team of Nash-Finley-Howard-Walker-Jamison. But this should be very limited.

Back-up point is the biggest problem right now. I assume Best is hopeless, because Delk is playing ahead of him and Delk is playing very poorly. So two choices: Go big with Dirk-Walker-Jamison-Howard-Finley (but how will we get the ball up the court?) or use Delk, but let Walker be the primary ball handler. I'd probably try both.

Minutes break down on average (except in blow outs):

Dirk 32; Bradley 8; Fortson 8
Walker 38; Dirk 6; Howard 4
Jamison 38; Howard 10
Finley 38; Howard 10
Nash 32; Delk 8; Howard 8

[The Crippler]

Nash
Fin
Jamison
Dirk
Ostertag

Howard and whoever you get for Walker off the bench.

[sike]

Originally posted by: MightyToine

I wish it were fact, KG. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

But I just feel that this is more likely than Walker "destroying" the Team from the inside out, don't you think?

I'm merely providing theories that do have some validity to them based on what I've seen during his long 7 seasons with Boston.

who said that Walker would be "destroying" the team? You are obviously quoting someone..who?

No one said anything about less money....but what about coming off the bench....you Walker fans really think that there is no chance of him making trouble about that? You know the guy better than the rest of us....is there not a chance that your guy would ever cause trouble?

[mavs_afroman]

Originally posted by: MightyToine

Hmmm....both AnTwins on the bench? Interesting....

Yep but it all depends on Bradley. I if he's playing well then him and Walker if not.

So far this season the Mavs have been horrible at getting stops at the end of games. The Big 3 give you the offense you need especially with Josh Howard who cuts and rebounds well on both ends. That lineup though gives you good perimeter defense, solid interior defense and shotblocking.