06-23-2016, 01:58 PM
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Right before Parsons got hurt, I was thinking 4yrs/$80M was about right for him. Apparently his first-year salary on a five-year max deal is $22M with whatever the requisite raises are. Now, assuming the Mavs are comfortable with $20M per year like I guessed, what in the world would prevent them from an extra $2M this summer and like $6M in year five? I know we're talking MILLIONS of dollars here, but do you really want to lose him because of about $40M over five years (most of that being about $28M or so in year five)? That seems silly to me, unless you've talked with other prospective targets' agents and the word is we won't be in the running for anyone. Then I understand rebuilding. But man, would I hate to lose Dirk because we didn't pay Parsons an extra $2M this year and subsequently dropped out of the running for a lot of other top-tier free agents.
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06-23-2016, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spreedom
Right before Parsons got hurt, I was thinking 4yrs/$80M was about right for him. Apparently his first-year salary on a five-year max deal is $22M with whatever the requisite raises are. Now, assuming the Mavs are comfortable with $20M per year like I guessed, what in the world would prevent them from an extra $2M this summer and like $6M in year five? I know we're talking MILLIONS of dollars here, but do you really want to lose him because of about $40M over five years (most of that being about $28M or so in year five)? That seems silly to me, unless you've talked with other prospective targets' agents and the word is we won't be in the running for anyone. Then I understand rebuilding. But man, would I hate to lose Dirk because we didn't pay Parsons an extra $2M this year and subsequently dropped out of the running for a lot of other top-tier free agents.
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I think it has less to do with the "extra $2M" part and more to do with the "right before Parsons got hurt" part... $20m/year sounded reasonable until he missed his second playoffs in two years because of injury.
Chandler Parsons playoff stats in a Mavs uniform: GP 1 / MIN 37 / PTS 10.0 (5-15 FG, 0-4 3P, 0-0 FT) / REB 6.0 / AST 2.0 / BLK 0.0 / STL 0.0 / PF 1.0 / TO 1.0
You could argue that it's a small sample size, but it's a small sample size because the guy is never healthy for the playoffs... Parsons has done squat to advance the Mavericks' status as a contender, but we should max him out after overpaying him for the last 2 seasons? Lol, nope.
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06-23-2016, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
I think it has less to do with the "extra $2M" part and more to do with the "right before Parsons got hurt" part... $20m/year sounded reasonable until he missed his second playoffs in two years because of injury.
Chandler Parsons playoff stats in a Mavs uniform: GP 1 / MIN 37 / PTS 10.0 (5-15 FG, 0-4 3P, 0-0 FT) / REB 6.0 / AST 2.0 / BLK 0.0 / STL 0.0 / PF 0.0 / TO 1.0
You could argue that it's a small sample size, but it's a small sample size because the guy is never healthy for the playoffs... Chandler Parsons has done almost NOTHING for the Mavericks, and we're gonna max him out after overpaying him for the last 2 seasons? Lol, nope.
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If we don't max him out we better have the inside track on Conley and/or Whiteside. If we miss out on all three, might as well let Dirk walk.
Tough position for the Mavs... Parsons definitely doesn't deserve the max, but the market determines value.
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06-23-2016, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
If we don't max him out we better have the inside track on Conley and/or Whiteside. If we miss out on all three, might as well let Dirk walk.
Tough position for the Mavs... Parsons definitely doesn't deserve the max, but the market determines value.
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Yep.
Doc Rivers killed the sh!t out of this team last summer... (well, final nail in the coffin -- Cuban's new CBA strategy did most of the damage...)
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06-23-2016, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
I think it has less to do with the "extra $2M" part and more to do with the "right before Parsons got hurt" part... $20m/year sounded reasonable until he missed his second playoffs in two years because of injury.
Chandler Parsons playoff stats in a Mavs uniform: GP 1 / MIN 37 / PTS 10.0 (5-15 FG, 0-4 3P, 0-0 FT) / REB 6.0 / AST 2.0 / BLK 0.0 / STL 0.0 / PF 1.0 / TO 1.0
You could argue that it's a small sample size, but it's a small sample size because the guy is never healthy for the playoffs... Parsons has done squat to advance the Mavericks' status as a contender, but we should max him out after overpaying him for the last 2 seasons? Lol, nope.
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Those are good points, but to be fair Parsons' second knee injury was minor and just incredibly bad luck/timing.
And I'd argue that he's mostly responsible for us getting so close on DAJ and certainly don't blame him for that falling apart. I still have faith in Parsons as a recruiter but understand if the MBT pulls the plug on him here. It just has to be for a better reason than "we don't feel like he's a max guy". It has to be because there is a concrete alternative plan in which Parsons doesn't fit.
If we lose Parsons and don't get someone in the Howard/Whiteside/Conley ilk, I'm going to be pretty pissed off.
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06-23-2016, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spreedom
Right before Parsons got hurt, I was thinking 4yrs/$80M was about right for him. Apparently his first-year salary on a five-year max deal is $22M with whatever the requisite raises are. Now, assuming the Mavs are comfortable with $20M per year like I guessed, what in the world would prevent them from an extra $2M this summer and like $6M in year five? I know we're talking MILLIONS of dollars here, but do you really want to lose him because of about $40M over five years (most of that being about $28M or so in year five)? That seems silly to me, unless you've talked with other prospective targets' agents and the word is we won't be in the running for anyone. Then I understand rebuilding. But man, would I hate to lose Dirk because we didn't pay Parsons an extra $2M this year and subsequently dropped out of the running for a lot of other top-tier free agents.
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I wonder if keeping Parsons would actually keep Dirk happy? If not, why bother?
I do think this could all be a massive smoke screen since the usual offseason is the Mavs being interested in every free agent.
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