Top Targets This Summer

[DIRKNOWITZKI]

CJ Miles, Mike Redd, Eduardo Najera, Big Man( jermaine/Dalembert), Corey Maggette?
I think a deal could be worked out with chicago for gordon or nocioni
thoughts?

[Stranger]

I'd like to get Eddie if he signed for free, and came with his own roster spot.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Seriously, of all names getting floated around a lot this summer, why do I keep hearing about Najera? I mean, honestly, Najera?! I thought we were done getting over the hill untalented players.

[dalmations202]

Brand, Okafor, JO, Dalembert

Magette, Redd, GWallace, Richardson,

CJMiles, Pietrus,

[sike]

Originally Posted by dalmations202

Brand, Okafor, JO, Dalembert

Magette, Redd, GWallace, Richardson,

CJMiles, Pietrus,

any reason or rhyme to this?

[mkat]

wouldn't mind getting Michael Redd at all. there's a 3 point shooter that Carlisle is looking for.

[dalmations202]

Originally Posted by sike

any reason or rhyme to this?

Title is top targets this summer.

IMO, for Bigs, there is the list.

For swingmen, the next list down

If you don't succeed, then the last list.

I hope these are the guys they are looking at....... and I forgot Artest in the middle list as well.

And from a personal standpoint, I'd go from top to bottom calling, and from first to last. If I got Brand, I'd jump down a list and start the next line at the front.

[sike]

Originally Posted by dalmations202

Title is top targets this summer.

IMO, for Bigs, there is the list.

For swingmen, the next list down

If you don't succeed, then the last list.

I hope these are the guys they are looking at....... and I forgot Artest in the middle list as well.

And from a personal standpoint, I'd go from top to bottom calling, and from first to last. If I got Brand, I'd jump down a list and start the next line at the front.

I figured it was a tier system...

"Brand, Okafor, JO, Dalembert

Magette, Redd, GWallace, Richardson, Artest (added)

CJMiles, Pietrus,"


I think I'd go for Artest (with JHo) and then sign Diop and CJ with the MLE...I'd be happy to have Terry coming off the bench or splitting time with Miles at the two...and try to find a three point specialist as well...I like all of those names and really I just want Carlisle to have the roster he knows will work best with his and Kidd's style.

[spreedom]

IF we trade for JO, I hope it doesn't cost us any of our relevant players, and that 1.) he isn't expected to play more than 25 minutes per night, and 2.) he isn't playing a single minute of center all season. He's proven far too fragile in these past couple of years to be counted on to do more than that. That's kind of a reason I hate the idea of trading a package like Josh/Stack for him... not only does he have a massive contract, but he's also probably going to be attending close to half of the games in a really nice suit.

[AxdemxO]

I think we should go after Ricky Davis as well. Hes still young and very athletic...his reputation is not the best...but he can play. He can play the 2 and 3 and hes not a bad career shooter.

[sike]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

I think we should go after Ricky Davis as well. Hes still young and very athletic...his reputation is not the best...but he can play. He can play the 2 and 3 and hes not a bad career shooter.

not a huge fan of RD...would not make him a initial move...maybe a secondary option...

[AxdemxO]

Originally Posted by sike

not a huge fan of RD...would not make him a initial move...maybe a secondary option...

IMO hes got a lot of game and can play D too. Hes only 28..soo like Howard. I think in the rite situation he can be great..and I think that situation could be in Dallas. Hes not bad as a starter...but if we could have hims as the 6th or 7th man...that would be great.

[sike]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

IMO hes got a lot of game and can play D too. Hes only 28..soo like Howard. I think in the rite situation he can be great..and I think that situation could be in Dallas. Hes not bad as a starter...but if we could have hims as the 6th or 7th man...that would be great.

From what I know of his game...he is a scorer. And not happy doing much else.

Maybe a new start is the ticket. Maybe Dallas is a good place for him...but like I said, he is not my prime target.

[Ninkobei]

is it too early to sign Nellie back as an assistant coach? or some other position/strategist?

[Stranger]

Josh Childress would be my first target (via free agency at least).

From what I know of his game...he is a scorer. And not happy doing much else.

Maybe a new start is the ticket. Maybe Dallas is a good place for him...but like I said, he is not my prime target.

I think Tricky Ricky was a pretty good soldier coming off the bench in Boston...if memory serves, he probably would have won the 6th man award if Ben Gordon didn't hit a bunch of big shots as a rookie.

He's still got some baggage and a bad rep, but he does fit our needs pretty well. I would probably make him my second target after Childress.

[AxdemxO]

Davis is unrestricted which means he mite be easier to get.

[DIRKNOWITZKI]

I think weve got to make a run at either josh smith or mike redd, or both. Chilldress can come with the MLE or we can use it one Diop, Miles, and Antoine Wright
also keeping Seibuitis is important

[AxdemxO]

Why do people keep mentioning Smith..there is No way ATL gives him up. Hes their guy. Childress we can try...but if hes happy in ATL with the role he has then why mover because they have a great future there.

Redd is a real possibility
Wright we should def. keep
go after Davis if the price is rite

[BGMaverick9]

I think Childress is restricted, if so...you're dreaming if you think you can get him and stick to your plan about Diop.

He'll eat up the entire MLE and you still are hoping they don't match, which they would.

[pepe]

Is clear the Mavs should upgrade two positions SG and C, also our 3 point shooting and perimeter defense needs improvement.

Looking at the free agent market, players like CJ Miles, Trevor Ariza, M Pietrus and James Jones could fill the mold, Jones because the guy is deadly from 3 point land and Ariza because of his energy and defense, Pietrus and Miles have a more all around game.

I am counting with Wright to stay with the team and be part of the rotation and maybe become our J Posey/B Bowen clone, he will need to imporve his 3 point shooting but defensively the guy is not that far away also Reyshawn Terry should be given an opportunity to see what he can do

Our C production should improve with a return of Diop and a full training camp of Magliore.
In a perfect world Dampier could be traded for a more offensive C ala B Miller, Zaza P from Atlanta or Resho Nestorovic, but the only way I see this happening is in a multiplayer deal, no GM in the NBA will jeopardize his job with a straight up trade for Dampier.

I always have the feeling that perhaps some quality players stay away from the MAVS because of the reputaton of Avery Johnson as a control freak around the league, specially young players that knew that they will end it up in the doghouse. I have no facts to back this up so take it for what it is...an opinion.

Maybe now with Carslile as the head coach and Kidd as the PG, more players will be willing to come here for a discount.

A significant trade will be made for either Terry, Howard, Stack, Bass, Dampier or a combination of this players, I think it will be one and done and not too much of a shakedown, just enough to bring one or two players so Carslile will have his own stamp on the team.

Who in the actual roster Carslile see as expendable? and what player/s Carslile see as more essencial? is the 64,000 question.

GO MAVS!

[BGMaverick9]

Ariza is just too risky for our limited resources. He can't stay healthy. I still think Miles is the top level for what we're looking for out of the 2. He can also play some 3 as well. He can shoot inside and outside, and get to the rim. You want the versatility. Pietrus doesn't have as much consistency, IMO, on the outside shoot.

If we can get production out of Wright and/or Terry in the fashion you said, that will be very beneficial.

[pepe]

Looking at Ariza Career stats, the guy does seem to be breaking down rather quickly for a 23 year old, CJ Miles is my number one choice if available, but I dont think Utah is going to let him get away.

This off season got all the makings of a team market, I dont see that much money been availabe for the quality of free agents, hopefully that will work in our favor.

[horse900703]

if we want Redd, who r we goin2 trade for?

[bgarrett]

No go on: REdd($$)
JO injury)
Najera(1/2 spare1/2hustle)

YES on: Dalembert!!
CJMILES!!!!
MAGGETTE!!!

Gordon
Nocioni eh ok only for a steal..


CJ and CMAGGette would be MY first move.
If there were any way to get dalembert i would do it especially if it involved damp even if we had to give bass(as much as i wouldn't want to)

[dalmations202]

You drive for SHOW, but you putt for Dough.

If you want to win it all, improve your frontcourt.

[ghazi]

Interestingly enough, according to 82 games.com, Howard shot 46% in the 1st Q and 49% in the 4th. So he doesn't SHOOT bad in the 4th, he just doesn't.... shot.

Only 39.4% in the 3rd though, how lame.

[EMO_416]

Originally Posted by ghazi

Interestingly enough, according to 82 games.com, Howard shot 46% in the 1st Q and 49% in the 4th. So he doesn't SHOOT bad in the 4th, he just doesn't.... shot.

Only 39.4% in the 3rd though, how lame.

and Avery is at fault here because as we know when Dirk was out......Howard had 3 GREAT fourth quarters(2 of them he led the team to victory, in the other he and Bass were the only ones that showed up).

[bgarrett]

Originally Posted by dalmations202

You drive for SHOW, but you putt for Dough.

If you want to win it all, improve your frontcourt.

That is a goog golf qoute "Drive for show putt for dough." I play DiscGolf and I hear it all the time about tournaments.

[mbaur]

Sometimes one needs an Impello to improve new faces around himself. I want to practice only one kraut :-) him some English, but the top football teams in Europe carry out this for many years successfully.

My winner's team, why you become a champion and why I hold this team for possible. Can that pass on somebody to Cuban?:-)

The Mavericks need:

- A quick run and Gun.
- A compact, body-stressed defense which can defend against quick "get in the zone" as well as against robustly "get to the board".

Why the Trades should function? Because of every plays collects with pleasure rings and Dallas the "means" difficult Trades also has to allow, does your job!

Purpose is very strong starting Five. Then the Backup player like Barea, George or Diop (which could come again for Maiglore) and some rookies can orientate itself by the successful first five and accumulate in the lee to good form.

The champion team:

Samuel Dalembert

• is a complete number 5 Player because Dirk ist a 3-4 player
• 10+ points + 10+ rebounds, 3+ blocks
• good Defense, well in layup and duck opportunity, aalee oop with Kidd
• Difficult, maybe determining trade. Dampier, Bass (Key of the deal) Stackhouse, Jones/Lue

Dirk Nowitzki

• 20+ points, 10+ rebounds, 2+ blocks
• strongly with layup, great shooter, difficult shots, three points throws, good defense rebound

Ron Artest

• 20+ Points, 5+ rebounds, 3+ assists, 3+ steals, 3+ blocks
• great defender, aggressively leader, can defend 2-3 also 3-4 (bryant, james, west, pierce, stoudemaier ..., good shooter in the zone, unconditionally in the post, three points throws.
• Important! Can dissolve his contract and get a free agent. With Dalles 10 millions of (3 more like yet) earn and become champion. Alternatively a young player or rookie, defense importantly..

Jason Richardson

• 20+ Points, 5 assists, 3 steals
• very fast, accurately, from outdoors, in the zone also in the board, very jump-immensely, duckings in the face, big point one.
• Howard and Terry. Alternatively McGrady, wants a ring, but would retire with the older generation.

Jason Kidd

• 10+ Points, 10+ assists, 5+ steals
• The best passports, the best play overview, great defense, can move in the zone. Run and gun with Richardson, taking aalee oop with Dalembert, to free plays to Nowitzki. Just Kidd.

Team of advantages:
C: An athletic centre, well in the board, good defender, offensive and defensive rebounds, contributes points.
PF: Quick, exact shooter of 2nd and 3rd, Layup opportunity, point supplier, rebounds contributes.
F: Perfect defense, can post up, point supplier.
SG: Perfect shooter, good defense, fast, imaginatively, point supplier.
PG: Perfect play construction and passports, can in the zone, great defense, contributes points.

These are 80+ points from start five, another 10+ of the bank player with the defense are the Mavs favorite!

The team can collect immediately rings. However, with Richardson and Dalembert quality also remains after the time of Kidd and Nowitzki. Importantly because 09 no first round pic exists, and Dallas could still another one trade.

Who explains me for mad? Is the text English?

Believes me simple folk, the Trades are possible, the team would get a ring!

CY

[bgarrett]

The money isnt right. what do we sign artest with? and dalembert and damp make similar money who else comes with dalembert that wont turn off phili to match stack, jones etc..? and im not sure you have to give up both jet and jho for richardson but the money there makes some sense.. Then of course what about a bench???

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by mbaur

Sometimes one needs an Impello to improve new faces around himself. I want to practice only one kraut :-) him some English, but the top football teams in Europe carry out this for many years successfully.

My winner's team, why you become a champion and why I hold this team for possible. Can that pass on somebody to Cuban?:-)

The Mavericks need:

- A quick run and Gun.
- A compact, body-stressed defense which can defend against quick "get in the zone" as well as against robustly "get to the board".

Why the Trades should function? Because of every plays collects with pleasure rings and Dallas the "means" difficult Trades also has to allow, does your job!

Purpose is very strong starting Five. Then the Backup player like Barea, George or Diop (which could come again for Maiglore) and some rookies can orientate itself by the successful first five and accumulate in the lee to good form.

The champion team:

Samuel Dalembert

• is a complete number 5 Player because Dirk ist a 3-4 player
• 10+ points + 10+ rebounds, 3+ blocks
• good Defense, well in layup and duck opportunity, aalee oop with Kidd
• Difficult, maybe determining trade. Dampier, Bass (Key of the deal) Stackhouse, Jones/Lue

Dirk Nowitzki

• 20+ points, 10+ rebounds, 2+ blocks
• strongly with layup, great shooter, difficult shots, three points throws, good defense rebound

Ron Artest

• 20+ Points, 5+ rebounds, 3+ assists, 3+ steals, 3+ blocks
• great defender, aggressively leader, can defend 2-3 also 3-4 (bryant, james, west, pierce, stoudemaier ..., good shooter in the zone, unconditionally in the post, three points throws.
• Important! Can dissolve his contract and get a free agent. With Dalles 10 millions of (3 more like yet) earn and become champion. Alternatively a young player or rookie, defense importantly..

Jason Richardson

• 20+ Points, 5 assists, 3 steals
• very fast, accurately, from outdoors, in the zone also in the board, very jump-immensely, duckings in the face, big point one.
• Howard and Terry. Alternatively McGrady, wants a ring, but would retire with the older generation.

Jason Kidd

• 10+ Points, 10+ assists, 5+ steals
• The best passports, the best play overview, great defense, can move in the zone. Run and gun with Richardson, taking aalee oop with Dalembert, to free plays to Nowitzki. Just Kidd.

Team of advantages:
C: An athletic centre, well in the board, good defender, offensive and defensive rebounds, contributes points.
PF: Quick, exact shooter of 2nd and 3rd, Layup opportunity, point supplier, rebounds contributes.
F: Perfect defense, can post up, point supplier.
SG: Perfect shooter, good defense, fast, imaginatively, point supplier.
PG: Perfect play construction and passports, can in the zone, great defense, contributes points.

These are 80+ points from start five, another 10+ of the bank player with the defense are the Mavs favorite!

The team can collect immediately rings. However, with Richardson and Dalembert quality also remains after the time of Kidd and Nowitzki. Importantly because 09 no first round pic exists, and Dallas could still another one trade.

Who explains me for mad? Is the text English?

Believes me simple folk, the Trades are possible, the team would get a ring!

CY

How the hell are we supposed to get any one of those guys, let alone all three of them?? It ain't gonna happen. Oh and Dalembert? No thanks.

[bgarrett]

Whats wrong with Dalembert? He's alot better than damp all day.
Some of those deals COULD possibly be done, but youll be left with no bench at all.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by bgarrett

Whats wrong with Dalembert? He's alot better than damp all day.
Some of those deals COULD possibly be done, but youll be left with no bench at all.

A lot better than Damp? He's a better shot-blocker and FT shooter and that's about it. Damp is a better defender and rebounder IMO. If we're going to trade for a center, it better be for someone who can score. Trading Damp for Dalembert is a lateral move.

[Tokey41]

Maybe we can trick Atlanta in a sign and trade of Smith for Howard (I don't know how much Smith will command, but I think a 'fair' deal would be around Howard's deal).

If not then how about Howard for Childress and some additional pieces or picks? At this point I have no idea what we can get for Howard but I know this team will be a nightmare if something is not done... and hopefully we won't scapegoat the coach, I doubt it will be any fault of his this time around.

[ghazi]

mbaur can you give me the # of your hash dealer?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

A lot better than Damp? He's a better shot-blocker and FT shooter and that's about it. Damp is a better defender and rebounder IMO. If we're going to trade for a center, it better be for someone who can score. Trading Damp for Dalembert is a lateral move.

Lateral move??? Dalembert is easily better than Dampier (especially at rebounding):


Dampier - 6.1 ppg / 7.5 rpg / 1.5 bpg / 24.4 mpg

Dalmbert - 10.5 ppg / 10.4 rpg / 2.3 bpg / 33.2 mpg



Above all else, Dalembert plays starter-minutes for starter-pay whereas Dampier plays back-up-minutes for starter-pay (that's my biggest beef with Damp...)

Someone suggested Damp & Bass for Dalembert, but that only seems worthwhile if we're really overrating Bass around here...

[alby]

If we can somehow acquire one of Philly's young swingmen along with Dalembert, then I would definitely do Bass/Damp. If we are unable to, that's too much of our frontline to give up IMO.

[sike]

Originally Posted by Tokey41

Maybe we can trick Atlanta in a sign and trade of Smith for Howard

We'd have to be pretty tricky...and they'd have to be pretty drunk.

[sike]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Above all else, Dalembert plays starter-minutes for starter-pay whereas Dampier plays back-up-minutes for starter-pay (that's my biggest beef with Damp...

That day is done my friend....Carlisle will respect big Damp and the Kidd/Damp magic will be on!

if you can move him for a better player, fine....but I'm doubtful they could.

I highly rate Damp's post defense...both on and off the ball, he is very solid.

[bgarrett]

WEll right , because Damp has done alot around here to demand respect.. He s too slow to defend ON THE BALL defensively but hes good help defender! I would rather have Diop.

Underdog, thanks for the stat help for the DAMP and Delembert copmparison I was headed there. The only magic that would make me happy to see is Damp beak his tiny ass ankles in the preseason and be out all season long. provided that we sign a CENTER this summer.