2020-2021 NBA Season thread

[DevinHarriswillstart]

19/7/2 for Roby. Shit.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

19/7/2 for Roby. Shit.

We basically traded him for WCS right? RC wouldn’t play him anyway.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

19/7/2 for Roby. Shit.

Don’t get the shit part

He was end of the bench for us. May never have played and just had one decent game in a loss.

OKC was desperate. They started him and gave him major minutes next to SGA. Don’t think that would have happened here. Also who knows if he’ll ever have another good game.

I wish him well. Seemed like a good kid. I love the stories of guys who aren’t expected to do anything, get one chance, and explode in one game. It has that Yogi Ferrell feeling.

Anyway, I’m thrilled we have WCS right now.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Don’t get the shit part

He was end of the bench for us. May never have played and just had one decent game in a loss.

OKC was desperate. They started him and gave him major minutes next to SGA. Don’t think that would have happened here. Also who knows if he’ll ever have another good game.

I wish him well. Seemed like a good kid. I love the stories of guys who aren’t expected to do anything, get one chance, and explode in one game. It has that Yogi Ferrell feeling.

Anyway, I’m thrilled we have WCS right now.

I think that's the issue though....why can't a guy like Roby get play here? I honestly can't see much of a difference between Roby, Kleber, WCS and Powell in regards to how good they are.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I think that's the issue though....why can't a guy like Roby get play here? I honestly can't see much of a difference between Roby, Kleber, WCS and Powell in regards to how good they are.

Carlisle is just weird with his rotations and always has been. He loves some guys and not others, and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. I firmly believe that he will keep starting Powell until Powell is no longer a Maverick, even though Powell might be the worst player on the team, and even though Porzingis is way better as a 5 than a 4. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but that is what I'm expecting.

I will also go to my grave believing that we would have beaten the Spurs in 2010 if Rick played Beaubois instead of Barea.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Carlisle is just weird with his rotations and always has been. He loves some guys and not others, and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. I firmly believe that he will keep starting Powell until Powell is no longer a Maverick, even though Powell might be the worst player on the team, and even though Porzingis is way better as a 5 than a 4. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but that is what I'm expecting.

I will also go to my grave believing that we would have beaten the Spurs in 2010 if Rick played Beaubois instead of Barea.

I have a long standing belief which I’ve vocalised here many times that part of our issue here is the “triangulation” of the MBT. Which results in trades like the one for Rondo which Rick seemed never to be on board with. Cuban is great in some ways but him being such an active owner I’m sure can at times be an impediment. Not drafting Giannis is a great example where are know he overruled Donnie (and it was dumb!)

I think Jae Crowder is a good example of Rick’s blind spot or limitation. If he had been given a bigger role, which in hindsight he was ready for, we may not have made that trade. Or at least flipped Jae for something better later. We also gave them like the 18 pick and Wright. Roby may or may not turn out to be another gaffe, too soon to tell. The takeaway is I hope all our rookies get a good look at some point before we ship them off unceremoniously.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Carlisle is just weird with his rotations and always has been. He loves some guys and not others, and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. I firmly believe that he will keep starting Powell until Powell is no longer a Maverick, even though Powell might be the worst player on the team, and even though Porzingis is way better as a 5 than a 4. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but that is what I'm expecting.

I will also go to my grave believing that we would have beaten the Spurs in 2010 if Rick played Beaubois instead of Barea.

I agree on all of the above. I don't see the purpose in Powell and it disturbs me that a basketball mind like Carlisle does. Is it salary that keeps getting him play on the court?

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I think that's the issue though....why can't a guy like Roby get play here? I honestly can't see much of a difference between Roby, Kleber, WCS and Powell in regards to how good they are.

Was there another way to clear a roster spot? I can’t remember who we had pre-bubble. Likely no one wanted Justin Jackson. Courtney Lee still had value for his contract and on court to some extent.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Was there another way to clear a roster spot? I can’t remember who we had pre-bubble. Likely no one wanted Justin Jackson. Courtney Lee still had value for his contract and on court to some extent.

Ouch was Roby just a "throw-in"?

And btw, I don't want to make it sound like Roby is the next coming. My issue isn't necessarily with Roby just the approach this team takes when it comes to valuing young players....because there's going to come a point where we have no choice but to build this team with guys on deals like Roby.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Ouch was Roby just a "throw-in"?

And btw, I don't want to make it sound like Roby is the next coming. My issue isn't necessarily with Roby just the approach this team takes when it comes to valuing young players....because there's going to come a point where we have no choice but to build this team with guys on deals like Roby.

We traded Roby to OKC for cash and Justin Patton who we waived to make roster room for WCS. I think we gave GSW a crappy 2nd for him. We eventually waived Bro so we could pick up Burke for the bubble. I was just wondering if we could have dumped Bro instead of Roby? Just waived him. Maybe Cuban is more concerned about cash than we know?

[Bryan_Wilson]

Well nobody really argues RC is pretty tough on young guys. At the same time how many of those guys who didn't play here much go on and actually make themselves into something significant? For example I remember a lot of us wanting Justin Anderson to get more mins here instead RC played Wes 35mins, he played Yogi a ton, and he played DFS over Justin Anderson. So he might be tough on young guys but typically the guys he plays are NBA players- the guys he didn't are buried as the 13-15th roster spot.

I don't really have an issue with being hard on young players. If they want to play then take advantage of your opportunities. This season with the tight schedules and covid young guys will get opportunities. Just take advantage of them when they come.

As for Roby specifically I watched that game and outside of the one play where he pump faked Vuc and made him look silly for a driving dunk he had a wide open 3 at the top of the key and every other shot he made was in the restricted area. He's one of those undersized 4's who to my eyes can't shoot yet. He even missed all 3 ft's when he was fouled on his 3. Maybe he develops maybe he doesn't but I didn't see anything worthy of wishing he was here personally. Hope he does well though in OKC.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Well nobody really argues RC is pretty tough on young guys. At the same time how many of those guys who didn't play here much go on and actually make themselves into something significant? For example I remember a lot of us wanting Justin Anderson to get more mins here instead RC played Wes 35mins, he played Yogi a ton, and he played DFS over Justin Anderson. So he might be tough on young guys but typically the guys he plays are NBA players- the guys he didn't are buried as the 13-15th roster spot.

I don't really have an issue with being hard on young players. If they want to play then take advantage of your opportunities. This season with the tight schedules and covid young guys will get opportunities. Just take advantage of them when they come.

As for Roby specifically I watched that game and outside of the one play where he pump faked Vuc and made him look silly for a driving dunk he had a wide open 3 at the top of the key and every other shot he made was in the restricted area. He's one of those undersized 4's who to my eyes can't shoot yet. He even missed all 3 ft's when he was fouled on his 3. Maybe he develops maybe he doesn't but I didn't see anything worthy of wishing he was here personally. Hope he does well though in OKC.

If you aren't being developed.....chances of you going to another team to succeed are slim at that point IMO.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

19/7/2 for Roby. Shit.

He looked damn good too.........