Now what?

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by Zeus

Just a friendly reminder back that lots of guys turn 21 that are athletic. Josh Green never showed anything out of the ordinary with regard to skills in college, international play etc so your assertion is speculative at best. There is really no reason other than the fact that he could do well in a decathlon to think he will ever be an above replacement level contributor in the NBA.

This snippet from Dmagazine a few months ago says it best:

The Dallas Mavericks knew the 2020 NBA Draft was big for the organization. Thanks to a trade with Golden State that ended up giving the Mavs the first choice in the second round, the team would essentially have two first-round picks (Nos. 18 and 31). Before the night was over, the Mavs would also come away with another high second-rounder (No. 36). Through a few shrewd maneuvers, the front office had created a prime opportunity to bolster its nascent core with two—maybe even three—low-cost additions.

They wouldn’t get many more chances like this. The Mavs still owed New York a pair of first-round picks from the Kristaps Porzingis trade one year earlier, and whatever room the team had under the salary cap was about to be largely swallowed up by contract extensions. They couldn’t blow it.

Less than two seasons later, it is glaringly obvious to even the most optimistic observers: they blew it. And it is killing them.

Josh was a 5-star recruit, top 10-20 in his class. So it’s not like he’s without pedigree. He was really good in his one season at Arizona. Of course lots of guys turn 21 that are athletic. I was just using Dodo as a convenient comparison of a guy we/the Mavs could’ve easily given up on. There were literally a few regular season games we don’t win with Josh Green this season. It’s easy to forget how impressive he looked at times in what was essentially his rookie season. He’s going to be better than Saddiq Bey. He’s probably not going to be better than Maxey. I think we were planning to take Bane at 31 but Memphis jumped us. I wanted Precious in that draft. In fact, I wanted Saddiq, Precious and Maxey over Josh. But now that he’s here I’m not going hold that against him. He’s going to be a really good player.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Josh was a 5-star recruit, top 10-20 in his class. So it’s not like he’s without pedigree. He was really good in his one season at Arizona. Of course lots of guys turn 21 that are athletic. I was just using Dodo as a convenient comparison of a guy we/the Mavs could’ve easily given up on. There were literally a few regular season games we don’t win with Josh Green this season. It’s easy to forget how impressive he looked at times in what was essentially his rookie season. He’s going to be better than Saddiq Bey. He’s probably not going to be better than Maxey. I think we were planning to take Bane at 31 but Memphis jumped us. I wanted Precious in that draft. In fact, I wanted Saddiq, Precious and Maxey over Josh. But now that he’s here I’m not going hold that against him. He’s going to be a really good player.

But many of us who did our own "advanced" scouting knew Green was very raw. I didn't call him Justin Anderson 2.0 for nothing. Anderson was actually more polished sadly.

He isn't going to be better than Bey because Bey has a more complete game despite his shooting falling off. Green is deer in headlights and has no concept on how to pace himself in the NBA. Just be honest...Green is a bust. Maybe that changes, but I don't see it. I'd move him to get veteran type player. But Frank played better than him in the playoffs, and Frank isn't Mr. contributes all the time himself.

I think the upcoming draft will be different without Donnie and a GM that isn't asleep at the wheel. I just HOPE they don't pass on someone obvious for some long term prospect that won't play.