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[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by SeanL

I like how you think the difference is more than arbitrary.

You're misrepresenting your opponent's position on where in the timeline they believe life begins.

It's the exact same thing as if a lifer walked up to you and said "You think life begins at 18 weeks? You might as well support third-trimester abortions!" (or as Murph might say, "aborting three-year-olds.")

[SeanL]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

You're misrepresenting your opponent's position on where in the timeline they believe life begins.

No I'm speaking to the fact that he thinks a fertilized egg is a baby. That is not a misrepresentation. That is what he actually believes, as crazy as that seems to you and me.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by SeanL

No I'm speaking to the fact that he thinks a fertilized egg is a baby. That is not a misrepresentation. That is what he actually believes, as crazy as that seems to you and me.

Well it is a baby, just an under-developed one.

[SeanL]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

It's kind of like asking if a red-orange color is red or orange..

almost

[SeanL]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Well it is a baby, just an under-developed one.

And a sperm is an underdeveloped baby. So I implore you, please stop masturbating. Every spluge is a holocaust of dead babies!

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by SeanL

And a sperm is an underdeveloped baby. So I implore you, please stop masturbating. Every spluge is a holocaust of dead babies!

Well that's just silly. If left alone a sperm will develop into an older sperm.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by SeanL

No I'm speaking to the fact that he thinks a fertilized egg is a baby. That is not a misrepresentation. That is what he actually believes, as crazy as that seems to you and me.

The misrepresentation is when you act as if anyone believes sperm cells are also human lives.

Pro-life position: Life begins at conception/implantation.
Misrepresentation: Life may as well begin in the testes.

Pro-choice position: Life begins sometime in the second trimester.
Misrepresentation: One may as well abort at any time in the pregnancy.

In both cases, one side pushes their opponent's position further down the timeline than is actually represented. You have both committed the first distortion and resisted the second in this thread alone.

But they are the same issue. I'm not sure how much more clearly I can spell this out, it's not that complicated.

[SeanL]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

The misrepresentation is when you act as if anyone believes sperm cells are also human lives.

Pro-life position: Life begins at conception/implantation.
Misrepresentation: Life may as well begin in the testes.

Pro-choice position: Life begins sometime in the second trimester.
Misrepresentation: One may as well abort at any time in the pregnancy.

In both cases, one side pushes their opponent's position further down the timeline than is actually represented. You have both committed the first distortion and resisted the second in this thread alone.

But they are the same issue. I'm not sure how much more clearly I can spell this out, it's not that complicated.

I never said that was anyone's position but mine. I believe life begins at the sperm stage. Reread what I wrote. It seems you misrepresented what I was saying.