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Old 06-26-2006, 07:04 AM   #1
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The last anyone heard, old friend P.J. BROWN was still wondering whether he wanted to stay with the Hornets for what is expected to be the final season of his career. "I just got to think long and hard if I'm going to play my last year with the Hornets," he said in April. He could ask for a trade (hard to do, he makes $8M), but the team might accommodate him if that's his choice. "I'm going to make it a point to talk to him before this draft," coach BYRON SCOTT said this week.
Dallas Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Pavel Podkolzin
7-5 from Russia (Foreign)
No games yet played in 2005/06

Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG from North Carolina
13.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.9 apg in 27.7 minutes

Incoming

J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
7.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 18.0 minutes

P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes

Change in team outlook: +3.7 ppg, +6.5 rpg, and -0.6 apg.


New Orleans Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
7.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 18.0 minutes

P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes

Incoming

Pavel Podkolzin
7-5 from Russia (Foreign)
No games yet played in 2005/06

Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG from North Carolina
13.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.9 apg in 27.7 minutes

Change in team outlook: -3.7 ppg, -6.5 rpg, and +0.6 apg.


Successful Scenario

Due to Dallas being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Dallas had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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Old 06-26-2006, 07:23 AM   #2
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i was trying to find a way to get the same 2 players from the Hornets, but I don't think thats enough. They won't want Pavel, he doesn't fit their image & he doesn't have much worth, and I don't think they'd want to mix stack with their youth.
BUt i love the ideal of PJ being a backup PF, and giving us a chance to develop JR.
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:16 PM   #3
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this works also, i tried it on realgm.com

Mavs Trade
Jerry Stackhouse
Marquis Daniels

Hornets Trade
PJ Brown
JR Smith
Moochie Norris

looks pretty even to me i dunno
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:19 PM   #4
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I'd love to get PJ and JR, but I don't think Stack and Pavel will get it done.
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the thought of this lineup in about 3 years is scary

Harris
JR Smith
Howard
Dirk
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Dallas Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG from North Carolina
13.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.9 apg in 27.7 minutes

Marquis Daniels
6-6 SG from Auburn
10.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.8 apg in 28.4 minutes

Devin Harris
6-3 PG from Wisconsin
9.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.2 apg in 22.7 minutes

#28 Pick

Erick Dampier
6-11 C from Mississippi State
5.7 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 23.5 minutes

Incoming

J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
7.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 18.0 minutes

P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes

Allen Iverson
6-0 PG from Georgetown
33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes

Steven Hunter
7-0 C from DePaul
6.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 19.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: +17.0 ppg, -0.0 rpg, and +0.5 apg.

New Orleans Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
7.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 18.0 minutes

P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes

Desmond Mason
6-5 SF from Oklahoma State
10.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes

Incoming

Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG from North Carolina
13.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.9 apg in 27.7 minutes

Erick Dampier
6-11 C from Mississippi State
5.7 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 23.5 minutes

Kevin Ollie
6-2 PG from Connecticut
2.7 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 15.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.1 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and +1.7 apg.

Philadelphia Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Kevin Ollie
6-2 PG from Connecticut
2.7 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 15.3 minutes

Allen Iverson
6-0 PG from Georgetown
33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes

Steven Hunter
7-0 C from DePaul
6.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 19.1 minutes

Incoming

Marquis Daniels
6-6 SG from Auburn
10.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.8 apg in 28.4 minutes

Devin Harris
6-3 PG from Wisconsin
9.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.2 apg in 22.7 minutes

#28 Pick

Desmond Mason
6-5 SF from Oklahoma State
10.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: -10.9 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and -2.2 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Dallas, New Orleans, and Philadelphia being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Dallas, New Orleans, and Philadelphia had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Dallas Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG from North Carolina
13.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.9 apg in 27.7 minutes

Marquis Daniels
6-6 SG from Auburn
10.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.8 apg in 28.4 minutes

Devin Harris
6-3 PG from Wisconsin
9.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.2 apg in 22.7 minutes

#28 Pick

Erick Dampier
6-11 C from Mississippi State
5.7 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 23.5 minutes

Incoming

J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
7.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 18.0 minutes

P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes

Allen Iverson
6-0 PG from Georgetown
33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes

Steven Hunter
7-0 C from DePaul
6.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 19.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: +17.0 ppg, -0.0 rpg, and +0.5 apg.

New Orleans Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
7.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 18.0 minutes

P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes

Desmond Mason
6-5 SF from Oklahoma State
10.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes

Incoming

Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG from North Carolina
13.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.9 apg in 27.7 minutes

Erick Dampier
6-11 C from Mississippi State
5.7 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 23.5 minutes

Kevin Ollie
6-2 PG from Connecticut
2.7 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 15.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.1 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and +1.7 apg.

Philadelphia Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Kevin Ollie
6-2 PG from Connecticut
2.7 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 15.3 minutes

Allen Iverson
6-0 PG from Georgetown
33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes

Steven Hunter
7-0 C from DePaul
6.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 19.1 minutes

Incoming

Marquis Daniels
6-6 SG from Auburn
10.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.8 apg in 28.4 minutes

Devin Harris
6-3 PG from Wisconsin
9.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.2 apg in 22.7 minutes

#28 Pick

Desmond Mason
6-5 SF from Oklahoma State
10.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: -10.9 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and -2.2 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Dallas, New Orleans, and Philadelphia being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Dallas, New Orleans, and Philadelphia had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
I could only see it happening if Isaih Thomas was the Gm of Sixers. Since he's not, Sixers laugh at the deal and then politely reject. They want more more if they are giving up Iverson.
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I could only see it happening if Isaih Thomas was the Gm of Sixers. Since he's not, Sixers laugh at the deal and then politely reject. They want more more if they are giving up Iverson.

Then what do you think it would take for us to get Iverson?
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Then what do you think it would take for us to get Iverson?
Josh Howard , Harris, and #28 pick will probaby get it done.
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Josh Howard , Harris, and #28 pick will probaby get it done.

Wow, I doubt the Mavs do that. The future of the franchise for a couple more elite years from Iverson. It should only take either Howard or Harris, not both.
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Wow, I doubt the Mavs do that. The future of the franchise for a couple more elite years from Iverson. It should only take either Howard or Harris, not both.
Well then maybe something like Howard, Diop, and Daniels. The Sixers don't just want to just dump Iverson for the sake of dumping him. They actually want parts that can help them in return. Harris for Iverson doesnt help them at all, and while Josh H. for AI is more tempting, other teams in need of a good go-to guy will offer more to Philly.
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Well then maybe something like Howard, Diop, and Daniels. The Sixers don't just want to just dump Iverson for the sake of dumping him. They actually want parts that can help them in return. Harris for Iverson doesnt help them at all, and while Josh H. for AI is more tempting, other teams in need of a good go-to guy will offer more to Philly.

They already have Dalembert, so they don't need Diop. Maybe Jho, Daniels, and #28 would do it. That seems more fair.
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