2020 NBA Draft

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Bane has shorter arms, but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with his stroke. His release point isn't really low relative to his body type. JJB for example has been getting his shots off successfully for many years and there is a long list of others, who are shorter than Bane that have as well. I'd have zero concerns of this and the same for his defense. The 2 things you mentioned is what I would say he does best. I think he would guard anyone 1-3. Especially guards we don't want Luka on.

The questions I have with drafting a PG:

What about Burke? We can't let him slip away if we can reasonably keep him.

Can they operate off ball with Luka on the floor?

Can they shoot at a high clip, AND defend?

He cocks his shot. JJB has a shot put sort of stroke. I like Bane’s body control on drives, saw some nice finishes going glass on drives ala Ginobli. It’s highlights so not sure what % he’s making on those as we are seeing mostly or all makes. Likely wouldn’t have looks as clean against NBA defenders. I like him but he’s not fluid athlete like Maxey or Lewis. Has any used the Desmond Mason comp? He has a similar build. That’s who he reminds me most of only maybe a little less athletic or fluid.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by mac222b

He cocks his shot. JJB has a shot put sort of stroke. I like Bane’s body control on drives, saw some nice finishes going glass on drives ala Ginobli. It’s highlights so not sure what % he’s making on those as we are seeing mostly or all makes. Likely wouldn’t have looks as clean against NBA defenders. I like him but he’s not fluid athlete like Maxey or Lewis. Has any used the Desmond Mason comp? He has a similar build. That’s who he reminds me most of only maybe a little less athletic or fluid.

https://youtu.be/QTPE2POgibE

That stroke looks clean to me. Very consistent release. I don't think he will have any issues.

As far as athleticism goes, he's just not a shifty little guard like Maxey or Lewis. He's bulkier, like 20 lbs of muscle bulkier but he CAN get up when he wants to. I've seen him posterize defenders especially catching lobs.

I don't think he is as agile as Desmond Mason was but he's by far a better shooter and defender. He is relentless off the ball too, reminds me a lot of Ray Allen.

Admittedly I'm biased because TCU and I got to watch all the games. Surprising to see how much he shot up the draft boards but after watching many other projected 14-25 picks, I don't see any guarantees, including him but imo he does fit our needs. 2 way player that's a knockdown shooter is definitely one of them.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

https://youtu.be/QTPE2POgibE

That stroke looks clean to me. Very consistent release. I don't think he will have any issues.

As far as athleticism goes, he's just not a shifty little guard like Maxey or Lewis. He's bulkier, like 20 lbs of muscle bulkier but he CAN get up when he wants to. I've seen him posterize defenders especially catching lobs.

I don't think he is as agile as Desmond Mason was but he's by far a better shooter and defender. He is relentless off the ball too, reminds me a lot of Ray Allen.

Admittedly I'm biased because TCU and I got to watch all the games. Surprising to see how much he shot up the draft boards but after watching many other projected 14-25 picks, I don't see any guarantees, including him but imo he does fit our needs. 2 way player that's a knockdown shooter is definitely one of them.

I like Bane, not trying to run him down. Just think there are legit questions about who and how well he’ll guard and his length. I think they are working out the kinks in his shot; in the video you shared you can see him dip down sometimes more than others, sometimes not at all. In the other highlights I’ve seen he almost cocks it before he lifts to shoot.

If given a choice I think I would take Kira, Precious, Saddiq, Hampton, Nesmith and Terry ahead of him. Maybe Maxey and Jalen Smith. He’s in the tier with Tyler Bey, Tre Jones, Josh Green, Cole Anthony, Quickley.

[rimrocker]

I've went completely cold on Green...has Anderson, Ager, D. Jones, Cunningham written all over him.
I'd easily take Aleksej Pokusevski (who I still think will eventually be the best player outside of the lotto) over Green in a heartbeat.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

I've went completely cold on Green...has Anderson, Ager, D. Jones, Cunningham written all over him.
I'd easily take Aleksej Pokusevski (who I still think will eventually be the best player outside of the lotto) over Green in a heartbeat.

I’m not claiming to be an authority on Green (or any player in this draft for that matter haha) But Green DOES have an NBA frame- about 6-6 220 and NBA level athleticism. He has pedigree— was a top 10 recruit and is young; 19 going on 20. He also shot pretty well from 3 as a Freshman. To me, those are huge distinctions between the guys you listed(excepting Poku)and Green.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by mac222b

I’m not claiming to be an authority on Green (or any player in this draft for that matter haha) But Green DOES have an NBA frame- about 6-6 220 and NBA level athleticism. He has pedigree— was a top 10 recruit and is young; 19 going on 20. He also shot pretty well from 3 as a Freshman. To me, those are huge distinctions between the guys you listed(excepting Poku)and Green.

He smells like a Jae Crowder type to me.

almost no chance of making an allstar game, but a very good likelihood of playing 8-10 years.

[Scoobay]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

I've went completely cold on Green...has Anderson, Ager, D. Jones, Cunningham written all over him.
I'd easily take Aleksej Pokusevski (who I still think will eventually be the best player outside of the lotto) over Green in a heartbeat.

what's made you get cold feet on Green?
anything more specific? your own or someone else's analysis?

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Scoobay

what's made you get cold feet on Green?
anything more specific? your own or someone else's analysis?

Questionable decision making and appears it could take several years to develop are concerning to me considering our situation.

I think the potential is there but not sure the ceiling is high enough to take that chance when some others that could be available seem to either have higher upside (Poku) or could contribute immediately (S. Bey).

I’m basically getting cold on him more because we have a pretty deep roster and I don’t see him getting much opportunity much like Reaves last season.
I think he’d be a decent pick at 18 for a team in full rebuild mode but we are a little too far along imo.