Mavs have made a trade (a small one)

[jthig32]

From the IndyStar:

The Indiana Pacers have traded swingman Shawne Williams to Dallas, two people with knowledge of the situation said today.
The Pacers will receive two second-round picks and cash.

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Williams averaged 6.7 points in two seasons with the Pacers, but several off-court incidents put the franchise in a bad light and made him expendable.

In February, a man wanted for murder in Memphis, Tenn., was arrested after leaving Williams' home. The suspect, Gary Ian Bohannon, 20, was driving Williams' truck when police pulled him over.

Before last season, team president Larry Bird suspended Williams for three games after the player was arrested following a traffic stop.

Police said they found a gun and marijuana in Williams' car. Police linked both to two passengers, Roosevelt Rollins and Roderick Helton, both from Memphis, where Williams grew up and played college basketball.

The Pacers selected Williams with the 17th overall pick in the 2006 draft.

We're not under the cap. I don't think we can just send draft picks unless we had a trade exception of some kind.

I bet we sent Eddie Jones and they're waiving him.

[jacktruth]

Legally, he's a poor man's AI. And should be a great distraction backup for Josh.

[mnmpeanut]

talented but troubled. watched him alot at u of memphis. some nights, he was unstoppable. some nights, he would sleepwalk. if he gets his s together, he could be a very good addition, especially for two seconds and some $$.

[jthig32]

Hoopshype has a source stating that they did in fact send Jones and he will be waived.

This is a great move. Instead of just waiving a potential (albeit small) trade asset, you turn it into a similarly priced asset that is under team control for three more seasons and see if he can fulfill his potential. Love it.

[BGMaverick9]

Interesting move. I wonder how much Carlisle knows about the guy. How long he's possibly kept tabs on him, if for any length of time.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Glad we got rid of the dead weight in Jones.

[sike]

Originally Posted by jthig32

I bet we sent Eddie Jones and they're waiving him.

that would be the best news of the trade...

[jthig32]

Has some nice athletcisim.

[SMC0007]

Yup Jones is included in the deal

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Here is Williams's draft scouting report from draftexpress:

Shawne Williams NBA Draft Scouting Report
June 16, 2006
Strengths
In terms of physical attributes, Williams is one of the more intriguing wing small forwards in this draft. He has outstanding height at just a shade under 6-9 with a terrific wingspan and standing reach, and his frame shows plenty of potential to play either the 3 or the face-up 4 position depending on the direction he decides to head in. As an athlete, the best way to describe him would be “smooth”. Williams is not terribly explosive, but he gets to where he needs to on the floor and is quick off his feet to finish with a dunk or pull down a rebound.

Offensively, Williams has terrific potential as a mismatch threat. His size and the high release point and elevation he gets on his shot means that he will be able to get his shot off almost whenever he pleases, as well as the quickness in which he gets his shot off. Although he is anything but a consistent shooter from long range at this point in his career, there is plenty of reason to believe that he will become a fine outside shooter if he puts the work in. He was used mostly as a pick and pop threat at the collegiate level; and this is what his role in the NBA projects at as well. Whether it was from the high or low post, Williams consistently showed the ability to use his height to see the entire floor and find the open man with his terrific passing skills.

Thanks to his height and length, Williams has nice potential as an all-around stat-stuffer and has put together some nice lines in college with steals, blocks, rebounds and assists.

Considering the direction the NBA is heading towards, players like Williams are en vogue these days. Only being a freshman, he still has plenty of upside to continue to improve.


Weaknesses
Williams played the power forward position in college and is still a bit stuck between positions as far as the NBA is concerned. This comes to play the most in his slashing and perimeter defense.

Williams is a bit averse to putting the ball on the floor and will rarely take it all the way to the basket. When he did in college, his dribble looked high and out of control at times, as he doesn’t get very low to the ground and lacks a bit of body control to finish in traffic in the lane.

Instead of taking the ball strong at the hoop, Williams has a tendency to settle for tough fadeaway jump-shots off the dribble, showing poor shot selection and really hurting his field goal percentage. He finished the season shooting 41% from the field and just 32% from behind the college 3-point line, but that did not stop him from attempting nearly five 3-pointers per game. While his shooting mechanics are very pretty, he leaps and lands forward on almost all of his shot attempts.

Learning how to use his size and length better to get higher percentage shots around the basket will help him become a more versatile player. His footwork in general needs to improve, whether it’s on the perimeter offensively and defensively or inside the paint to score over smaller defenders. He does not appear to be the most physical player in this draft, often shying away from contact.

Defensively, there are some questions marks regarding Williams’ ability to defend the perimeter. His lateral quickness is just average and his awareness on this end of the floor is less than ideal, often losing his focus and not always being terribly committed to staying in front of his man. Experience is a major factor here, as concepts like hedging a screen or rotating over on help defense are not things he particularly excels at. Like all Memphis players, he had a tendency to gamble for steals.

Despite only being a freshman, Williams is the same age as some juniors in this draft class, as he spent a year at prep school getting eligible for college after finishing high school.

Competition
Williams was a highly touted high school player that did not make the cut for college right away and was forced to go to prep school at Laurinburg prep for a year. He joined Memphis for one season and looked to be on his way to contending for freshman of the year honors after an incredibly hot start, cumulated with a 21 point (5-7 3P), 7 rebound, 4 assist performance against UCLA and a 15 point, 8 rebound outing against Duke, both in the preseason NIT in November. He faded significantly once the in-conference portion of Memphis’ schedule begun, which was ironically substantially weaker than the murderer’s row they faced early on in the year. He finished the year averaging 13 points and 6 rebounds per game.

Outlook
After an inconsistent freshman season, Williams decided to declare for the draft and eventually ended up hiring an agent after hearing that his stock looks fairly solid for the first round. This didn’t come as a huge surprise considering that Williams has always seemed to have the NBA on his mind since emerging as a top high school player, and even considered declaring after his one year at Laurinburg before coming up extremely flat in the high school all-star games. Some experts say that Williams is a strong candidate to be drafted in the top-20, with much of this having to do with how strongly Memphis coach John Calipari is supporting him through the media. Where he ends up landing is anyone’s guess in what appears to be one of the crazier drafts in recent memory. The team that drafts him will need to have patience, as the word “project” has come up following many of his private NBA workouts.

[chumdawg]

I knew we had something up our sleeve!

[bobatundi]

Would seem to be more of an upgrade in the A-Hole department than Jones, anyway--and that's what Carlisle is looking for, right?

[Eman]

Small trade????? This is HUGE, at least hugely gratifying, we finally got rid of that dead wood that is Eddie Jones and we got a talented/ athletic young wing!!!!!! 17th pick first round? Another guy that has the potential to move Howard to the 2 spot. Our depth is getting better all the time.

Damp/Diop/Bass
Dirk/Bass/Williams/George
Howard/Bass/Williams/Stack/George
Wright/Jet/Stack/Green
Kidd/Jet/Barea

You know the best part of that lineup? We don't have to play Devean George At all!!!

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by bobatundi

Would seem to be more of an upgrade in the A-Hole department than Jones, anyway--and that's what Carlisle is looking for, right?

Well Williams would probably see more games than Jones....that's a start. Hopefully this new found confidence in Wright and Green sparked the deal.

[SMC0007]

Let the backup position battles begin.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by Eman

Small trade????? This is HUGE, at least hugely gratifying, we finally got rid of that dead wood that is Eddie Jones and we got a talented/ athletic young wing!!!!!! 17th pick first round? Another guy that has the potential to move Howard to the 2 spot. Our depth is getting better all the time.

Damp/Diop/Bass
Dirk/Bass/Williams/George
Howard/Bass/Williams/Stack/George
Wright/Jet/Stack/Green
Kidd/Jet/Barea

You know the best part of that lineup? We don't have to play Devean George At all!!!

Better....and younger, fresher bodies available.

[sike]

me happy

[dirk2003]

awesome. EJ was crap. this guy could work out

[sike]

is this Donnie slowly winning my trust back??

[Caseman]

Isn't he like a minature Josh, weed and all?

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by sike

is this Donnie slowly winning my trust back??

HELL FN NO!

[BGMaverick9]

The thing that sort of gets me about this is what now happens to guys like Reyshawn and Rhodes, more towards Reyshawn?

[DIRKNOWITZKI]

i like this trade, Id like to see JaJuan Smith on the final roster

[twistaeffect2004]

This is a great move. Very much low risk, high reward.

Suddenly this team looks very athletic. Surround these type of guys with Kidd, and good things happen.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

The thing that sort of gets me about this is what now happens to guys like Reyshawn and Rhodes, more towards Reyshawn?

Someone like Shawne Williams is infintely more talented than ReTerry. So you give someone like that a chance to fulfill his promise.

There's still one slot open for ReTerry or Rhodes, unless McLeod makes it.

I think this youth movement backs up the claims that Fish and DLord were making towards the end of last season that the emphasis on old veterans came from Avery instead of Donnie. It could simply be the natural reaction of changing course when something doesn't work, but the dumping of JuHoward, Mogloire, EJones and Lue for Singleton, Green, Williams and perhaps ReTerry in the final slot seems to be a trend to me.

[Eman]

THis is Hollinger's Scouting report, says he's young (22) and could be a 20 point scorer in a couple years, great athlete!!!


2007-08 season: Williams had a nice year on the court for a 21-year-old, something that's easy to forget in the midst of his trouble off it. He bumped his 40-minute scoring rate all the way up to 18.9, had solid rates of blocks and steals, and made a huge improvement in his free-throw rate. Add it all together and he was a solid bench player who has shown the potential to be much more. In particular, if he can get his 3-point percentage above last year's 31.4 percent his offensive game will really take off.

Unfortunately, he's also shown a knack for hanging out with the wrong people. Williams was arrested in the summer of 2007 when police found marijuana and a stolen handgun in a car he was driving. In February, a murder suspect was arrested shortly after leaving Williams' home. And this summer, a passenger in his car was arrested for marijuana possession. Given Indiana's recent history, they can't afford this type of publicity, and as a result the team may make an example of him.

Scouting report: Williams has a smooth-looking outside shot off the catch and it won't surprise me if he rapidly improves as a 3-point shooter as he adjusts to the longer line. He can attack bigger players off the dribble, too, but he's a bit of a sloppy ball handler -- this only really works if he has a big quickness advantage.

Defensively, he still needs work, especially if the Pacers plan on using him at power forward. He saw a lot of time there last year in small-ball arrangements but is too light to defend the post. He's more effective as a wing but at 6-9 will have to work on his agility to stay in front of smaller players. But he did draw 16 offensive fouls in just 965 minutes, a healthy result, and he doubled his rates of steals and blocks.


2008-09 outlook: Williams has a bright future if he can clean up the off-court stuff, as his size and shooting ability make him a potential 20-point scorer a few years down the line. But he still has holes in his game that need mending, and it seems likely he'll have to do it in another location given the comments the Pacers made after his latest scrape with the law.

Most similar at age: Mike Miller


And to think, we got him for Eddie Jones!!!!!!! You know Carlisle know's the guy, and his relationship with Bird had to have something to do with this. I'm excited.

[sike]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

HELL FN NO!

Bass, Green (if he pans out), moving Jones, bringing in Carlisle...slowly but surely, if the pieces fall into place...Donnie could win me back.

[Eman]

Don't forget Antoine Wright

[sike]

Originally Posted by Eman

Most similar at age: Mike Miller

most interesting bit...

[sike]

Originally Posted by Eman

Don't forget Antoine Wright

I agree...and the reacquisition of Diop was nice.

[MavsFanFinley]

It's a steal if he gets it together. Hopefully we won't regret those 2nd round picks later.

I'll miss Jones. Not. Good riddance.

[Kidd Karma]

wiki has it, beat the mavs.com to it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawne_Williams

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

It's a steal if he gets it together. Hopefully we won't regret those 2nd round picks later.

I'll miss Jones. Not. Good riddance.

We still have Shan Foster......down the road, any one know if we cut Reyshawn from TC, do we lose his rights?

[sike]

Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

I'll miss Jones. Not. Good riddance.

haha...he was just a shell of the man he once was...

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

We still have Shan Foster......down the road, any one know if we cut Reyshawn from TC, do we lose his rights?

That's a good question, since we did actually sign him to a training camp contract. I bet we do.

[sike]

haven't heard anything recently about Foster....is he bound for the DLeague?

[jthig32]

He's playing in Europe.

[twistaeffect2004]

Originally Posted by sike

haven't heard anything recently about Foster....is he bound for the DLeague?

I believe he's playing in Europe Sike.

[muzak]

I wish we'd get a back-up pg.

[Caseman]

Originally Posted by muzak

I wish we'd get a back-up pg.

What are you talking about? We already have our future All-Star JJB!