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DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Multiple reports now saying there is no meeting with the Heat and never was. It was always a bullshit ploy by JB?s camp to squeeze more money out of the Knicks and make this look legit versus the obvious farce it is. Don?t let the door hit you JB.

Goes to show even the best reporters get this stuff wrong. Now I do think the meeting with Dallas is just to save face for tampering.

Next.

purplefrog · 06-30-2022, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Multiple reports now saying there is no meeting with the Heat and never was. It was always a bullshit ploy by JB?s camp to squeeze more money out of the Knicks and make this look legit versus the obvious farce it is. Don?t let the door hit you JB.

Why are the Mavs always in the middle of craziness during FA season? Maybe Cuban and Nico should lock JB in a hotel room and not let him leave until he signs. Keep daddy outside and force the young man to make his own decision. Just kidding, but the Mavs' stories around this time of year seem always full of intrigue and tend towards the melodramatic.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-30-2022, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Why are the Mavs always in the middle of craziness during FA season? Maybe Cuban and Nico should lock JB in a hotel room and not let him leave until he signs. Keep daddy outside and force the young man to make his own decision. Just kidding, but the Mavs' stories around this time of year seem always full of intrigue and tend towards the melodramatic.

In the past I think it's that the players the Mavs were chasing just so happened to be particularly melodramatic- Dwight Howard on multiple occasions, Deron Williams, Deandre Jordan... This time though it has way more to do with the Knicks that the Mavs. Who knew the Knicks would go all out and build their whole offseason around chasing a mid-tier player like Brunson.

Kidd Karma · 06-30-2022, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Why are the Mavs always in the middle of craziness during FA season? Maybe Cuban and Nico should lock JB in a hotel room and not let him leave until he signs. Keep daddy outside and force the young man to make his own decision. Just kidding, but the Mavs' stories around this time of year seem always full of intrigue and tend towards the melodramatic.

Yup, every summer, Mavs are in the middle of a scrum, with cap space to add, or a player to lose.

The Nuggets locked McDyess in the Pepsi Center during an Avalanche game....unknown to McDyess, Kidd, Chapman and McCloud were outside and not allowed in to talk to McDyess..I think if he goes to the Knicks for cheaper than our offer....would think this was all a charades to keep the tampering investigators off the Knicks tail.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-30-2022, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Multiple reports now saying there is no meeting with the Heat and never was. It was always a bullshit ploy by JB?s camp to squeeze more money out of the Knicks and make this look legit versus the obvious farce it is. Don?t let the door hit you JB.

To be fair, the report says that the Heat don't have a meeting scheduled today, not that they aren't meeting with Brunson at all. Haynes' initial report only said that Brunson was meeting with the Heat, he didn't specify a day.

That being said, there is no way he goes to Miami. He probably is meeting with them, but just to stoke the bidding war.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-30-2022, 10:22 AM

Shit, I just now found out the Dennis Schroder is UFA and only made $5.8 million this year. He'd be almost a perfect replacement for Brunson. A bit of a malcontent, but still a very quality guard. If we can get him for the TPMLE I'd be very happy.

purplefrog · 06-30-2022, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Shit, I just now found out the Dennis Schroder is UFA and only made $5.8 million this year. He'd be almost a perfect replacement for Brunson. A bit of a malcontent, but still a very quality guard. If we can get him for the TPMLE I'd be very happy.

AND his was born in Germany.....

saclare · 06-30-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Shit, I just now found out the Dennis Schroder is UFA and only made $5.8 million this year. He'd be almost a perfect replacement for Brunson. A bit of a malcontent, but still a very quality guard. If we can get him for the TPMLE I'd be very happy.

I can be down with Dennis.

I'm honestly over Brunson at this point.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 11:39 AM

Yeah, me too. All this drama over Brunson. Good grief. There are already like 10 FAs I like who could fill that void.

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2022, 11:50 AM

It's sad where Cuban and the Mavs are.

Good teams have guys leave. They're constantly developing new talent, bringing in guys via free agency/draft, and there's always a flow of talent.

It's totally natural that some people would want to take off for whatever reason but acting like a desperate boyfriend makes us look desperate and pathetic.

Wish JB well and move on. Players will appreciate it and it'll make for a more positive work place.

Nico can keep us in serious playoff contention.

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 12:16 PM

I?d take Dennis to fill Brunson role.

Like others I?m really just over it. 25m accept or walk.

FreshJive · 06-30-2022, 12:27 PM

What an absolute kick in the nuts. This is so Mavs. Welcome to the Mavs, Nico. We can?t even sign our own free agents here.

purplefrog · 06-30-2022, 12:41 PM

If all the roster cuts and trades happen as reported (and I may have missed one or two), JB would be playing with the following NY Knicks:

Julius Randle
Evan Fournier
RJ Barrett
Derrick Rose
Obi Toppin
Cam Reddish
Immanuel Quickly
Quentin Grimes
Trevor Keels
Mitchell Robinson (Likely?)
Ryan Arcidiacono

Not making any judgments on whether this is good or bad for JB. Just showing the facts of the matter.

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 01:02 PM

25m makes Jalen 14th highest paid PG. Any moron thinking that?s too much can kick rocks.

That would be between what Conley and Lowry make. Above Brogdon and Rozier. This is the going rate.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

25m makes Jalen 14th highest paid PG. Any moron thinking that?s too much can kick rocks.

That would be between what Conley and Lowry make. Above Brogdon and Rozier. This is the going rate.

And how have any of them worked out so far? Conley is over the Hill as is Lowry (who was terrrible in the playoffs for Miami), and Brogdon and Rozier are on the trade block.

I'm fine keeping Brunson at 25 a year if that's what it takes, but those examples aren't the best.

It'll be interesting to see what Indiana and Charlotte get for Brogdon and Rozier since the idea is you can move Brunson later down the road.

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

And how have any of them worked out so far? Conley is over the Hill as is Lowry (who was terrrible in the playoffs for Miami), and Brogdon and Rozier are on the trade block.

I'm fine keeping Brunson at 25 a year if that's what it takes, but those examples aren't the best.

It'll be interesting to see what Indiana and Charlotte get for Brogdon and Rozier since the idea is you can move Brunson later down the road.

How can you not see the point I?m making lol he?s clearly worth 25m

saclare · 06-30-2022, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

25m makes Jalen 14th highest paid PG. Any moron thinking that?s too much can kick rocks.

That would be between what Conley and Lowry make. Above Brogdon and Rozier. This is the going rate.

As stated, $25mm is fine and should be the walk away number. If he wants to limit it to 4 years and be able to hit the market after, fine too. But the more you add to that, the less intriguing it gets, especially when we already have the 4th highest cap hit for the position locked up (likely 3rd after next year when Russ falls off).

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 02:02 PM

Well holy shit

KD is asking out and Suns are preferred destination

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Well holy shit

KD is asking out and Suns are preferred destination

I wish just once these owners would tell these players tough shit. We don?t care that you want to be traded. If they do decide to trade them IDGAF where you want to go. We are shipping your ass to the highest bidder. You want to choose where you play every season? Sign 1 year deals and not 4 year max contracts.

purplefrog · 06-30-2022, 02:33 PM

Maybe the NBA should go to a new format where each team picks a captain. Each captain gets to pick the best remaining player to join his team. Sort of like the new All-Star game process. The order of picking your teammates is determined by the draft order. First round picks get $40M, second round $35M, and so on. Captains can barter with other team captains and generally have fun with the process while the rest of us wait to see who is on "our team". Owners, coaches, and fans are stuck with whatever the players come up with. Rinse and repeat every year. Sound like fun?

The NBA is getting ridiculous.

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 02:04 PM

If KD is granted his wish, what is the point of even having contracts.

And it looks like he will get traded.

Adrian Wojnarowski: Brooklyn Nets GM Sean Marks is working with Kevin Durant and his business manager Rich Kleiman on finding a trade for the franchise star, Kleiman tells ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn

purplefrog · 06-30-2022, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

If KD is granted his wish, what is the point of even having contracts.

And it looks like he will get traded.

Adrian Wojnarowski: Brooklyn Nets GM Sean Marks is working with Kevin Durant and his business manager Rich Kleiman on finding a trade for the franchise star, Kleiman tells ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn

THJ and Bertrans for KD. Get it done Nico! LOL...

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 02:12 PM

Anddddd now Kyrie wants out

saclare · 06-30-2022, 02:12 PM

Yikesss this is nutty, NBA is really entertaining if anything...lol

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 02:17 PM

For those that keep saying "why not just pay the extra 5 million" as explained before, it's not just 5 million. This is why. If you want to say "Cuban is a billionaire he should pay it" so be it, but no MLE.

Re-signing Brunson at a deal that pays him $30 million annually, per Bobby Mark?s calculations, could cost the team $130 million in salary and subsequent taxes next season. That?s without the team using its taxpayer?s mid-level exception, a $6.4-million carveout that the team might need to sign another wing or split among several players asking more than the veteran?s minimum. It?s another calculation the team must make, a financial one dependent on how much Cuban is truly willing to spend. Dallas can?t be blamed for its valuation of Brunson being lower than New York?s. Team sources have certainly expressed surprise and dismay at just how much the Knicks are prepared to offer him. But sometimes, that?s the cost of free agency. ? via Tim Cato @ The Athletic

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 02:26 PM

https://twitter.com/massey_evan/stat...86700718817280

Holy hell, no. Give Brunson whatever he wants! Oh god...

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

https://twitter.com/massey_evan/stat...86700718817280

Holy hell, no. Give Brunson whatever he wants! Oh god...

Please god no

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

https://twitter.com/massey_evan/stat...86700718817280

Holy hell, no. Give Brunson whatever he wants! Oh god...

Please, no. Also, with what assets?

Side note/question: when sending a message/reply do the bold/italic/underline or any of the attach link/photo buttons work for anyone? I?m on my phone, but can?t select any of them. Also not sure what?s up with the board changing all apostrophes to question marks.

saclare · 06-30-2022, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Please, no. Also, with what assets?

Side note/question: when sending a message/reply do the bold/italic/underline or any of the attach link/photo buttons work for anyone? I?m on my phone, but can?t select any of them. Also not sure what?s up with the board changing all apostrophes to question marks.

Nope, none of those features work for me anymore. And the ? mark replaces ' and " from copy pasta for me. I'm on computer when I post so I don't know about from the phone.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Please, no. Also, with what assets?

Side note/question: when sending a message/reply do the bold/italic/underline or any of the attach link/photo buttons work for anyone? I?m on my phone, but can?t select any of them. Also not sure what?s up with the board changing all apostrophes to question marks.

Nobody wants him. I doubt you need to give up much. If they want THJ and Dwight Powell, fine, but NO WAY to Dinwiddie. No sir. No.

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 02:28 PM

I?d think Miami can put together a better package for KD than PHX? I don?t know what either teams draft pick situation looks like, but I think Herro is a better player than anyone PHX can offer up unless Ayton can do some kind of SnT.

As much as I hate Miami I?d much rather KD go there because fuck CP3 and Booker.

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

I?d think Miami can put together a better package for KD than PHX? I don?t know what either teams draft pick situation looks like, but I think Herro is a better player than anyone PHX can offer up unless Ayton can do some kind of SnT.

As much as I hate Miami I?d much rather KD go there because fuck CP3 and Booker.

They def have the draft picks to get it done.

saclare · 06-30-2022, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

I?d think Miami can put together a better package for KD than PHX? I don?t know what either teams draft pick situation looks like, but I think Herro is a better player than anyone PHX can offer up unless Ayton can do some kind of SnT.

As much as I hate Miami I?d much rather KD go there because fuck CP3 and Booker.

Also would keep KD in the East...

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 02:38 PM

It's funny how we though the Brooklyn FO held firm and did the right thing...welp.

ShaggyDirk · 06-30-2022, 02:58 PM

Tic toc you don't stop!

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2022, 03:10 PM

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 03:14 PM

Rumored that FA will be on hold until the Durant deal goes through. That actually helps the Mavs since they have their Brunson meeting first.

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 03:21 PM

Pure fantasy, but one can dream right?

The idea of teaming up with Luka Doncic in Dallas has to be appealing for Durant. The Mavericks can easily find the matching salaries with a combination of guys such as Spencer Dinwiddie, Tim Hardaway Jr., Davis Bertans, Dwight Powell, and even Jalen Brunson through a sign-and-trade. They can also include three first-round picks in 2025 (first available draft), 2027, and 2029.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/kevin-du...-destinations/

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 03:21 PM

Nash going to stick around and coach a rebuilding Brooklyn? Nets have to get some assets back just to make salaries match, but the talent level has to be a huge drop with KD and likely Irving gone.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-30-2022, 03:23 PM

*throws hands up*

Welp, I give up trying to follow the offseason anymore.

*For a week, we hear repeatedly how happy Brunson is and how is definitely re-signing.
*Kyrie asks for a trade. Threatens to opt out for leverage.
*Mavs say they have no interest.
*Kyrie opts in.
*Brunson is almost definitely signing with NY.
*Miami is also meeting with Brunson.
*Oh wait, nm, Miami is not meeting with Brunson.
*KD requests trade.
*Mavs are aggressively pursuing trade for Kyrie.

Whatever. NBA twitter is bullshit. JFC, no thank you on Kyrie. Do everything you can to keep Brunson, I don't care what it costs. If he walks anyway, then at least you tried. If he walks, then go after Schroder.