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Old 06-23-2016, 10:47 PM   #1
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So does this mean McGee is gone or is this guy a long-shot? Don't know a thing about this guy.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:55 PM   #2
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So does this mean McGee is gone or is this guy a long-shot? Don't know a thing about this guy.

Hes the typical 2nd rounder. There's a lot to like. We got nice value there. But as of now he's a raw big man who teams were scared of because he's 24 which is wierd to me because I want the collegiate guy who's battle tested and stayed 4 years. If he was 19 he would've been a first rounder. Nothing not to like about him on the court. Mentally may be another story.
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:04 PM   #3
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Hes the typical 2nd rounder. There's a lot to like. We got nice value there. But as of now he's a raw big man who teams were scared of because he's 24 which is wierd to me because I want the collegiate guy who's battle tested and stayed 4 years. If he was 19 he would've been a first rounder. Nothing not to like about him on the court. Mentally may be another story.
Potential, Rookie, with low motor doesn't sound like a Carlisle guy to me. He does look like he could be a force in the paint though if Rick can get him motivated. Imagine he'll have a very short leash next season.
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Potential, Rookie, with low motor doesn't sound like a Carlisle guy to me. He does look like he could be a force in the paint though if Rick can get him motivated. Imagine he'll have a very short leash next season.
Well that's my thing. I don't think he will get any playing time here. Not from Carlisle. Not because of the whole "he doesn't play young guys thing" but for like you said. Low motor.
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Well that's my thing. I don't think he will get any playing time here. Not from Carlisle. Not because of the whole "he doesn't play young guys thing" but for like you said. Low motor.
I think it will depend on who we sign for a center this season. If we get a guy like Howard or Whiteside then he is most likely D-league bound at best. If we spend all of our money on a wing and PG and end up with a Hibbert caliber center then I could see Rick giving him an opportunity.

I'm wondering how much we'd know about Anderson if Parsons wouldn't have gotten hurt. Hell, we went through nearly a half season with virtually no meaningful minutes for Salah when McGee was out and Zaza was getting run into the ground. It wasn't until Rick gave up completely on McGee after he came back from injury that he gave Salah an opportunity.

I love everything about Rick except for that one low tolerance for inexperienced mistakes issue. I do understand why he does it though.

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Old 06-27-2016, 12:08 AM   #6
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Well that's my thing. I don't think he will get any playing time here. Not from Carlisle. Not because of the whole "he doesn't play young guys thing" but for like you said. Low motor.
I think the low motor is exaggerated. How does someone with a low motor become DPOY in the Big Ten? It sounds like maybe earlier in his career, and that he's already moving forward...and that will continue in his pro career, and with the Mavs.

I don't think Carlisle will be against him, but he will let him know what is expected, and see where it goes from there. Probably just what the kid needs.
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Hes the typical 2nd rounder. There's a lot to like. We got nice value there. But as of now he's a raw big man who teams were scared of because he's 24 which is wierd to me because I want the collegiate guy who's battle tested and stayed 4 years. If he was 19 he would've been a first rounder. Nothing not to like about him on the court. Mentally may be another story.

Hi! I'm a first time poster and Purdue fan here. He's actually not raw at all. He's pretty well-developed skill-wise. His basketball IQ isn't great but I think it's good enough for now and can continue to get better.

Yes, it is believed that he doesn't "love" the game but I think he's learned to realize that this is his meal-ticket (he's naturally built for it) and it showed this past season, as he was very consistent as a senior. He can shoot out to college 3PT range as well, but you don't really want him doing that unless he's wide-open. He has very good shot-blocking instincts and weirdly, he blocks almost all of his shots using his left hand even though he's a right-handed player.

Here's some highlights on him from this past season (Note: his weight is more in the 250-260 range, not 280 as listed in the video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWHEr6ja_pg

I hope this helps you guys have more insight on him.

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Old 06-24-2016, 02:59 AM   #8
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Hi! I'm a first time poster and Purdue fan here. He's actually not raw at all. He's pretty well-developed skill-wise. His basketball IQ isn't great but I think it's good enough for now and can continue to get better.

Yes, it is believed that he doesn't "love" the game but I think he's learned to realize that this is his meal-ticket (he's naturally built for it) and it showed this past season, as he was very consistent as a senior. He can shoot out to college 3PT range as well, but you don't really want him doing that unless he's wide-open. He has very good shot-blocking instincts and weirdly, he blocks almost all of his shots using his left hand even though he's a right-handed player.

Here's some highlights on him from this past season (Note: his weight is more in the 250-260 range, not 280 as listed in the

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWHEr6ja_pg

I hope this helps you guys have more insight on him.
Great stuff man! Thanks and welcome aboard
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:14 AM   #9
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Hi! I'm a first time poster and Purdue fan here. He's actually not raw at all. He's pretty well-developed skill-wise. His basketball IQ isn't great but I think it's good enough for now and can continue to get better.

Yes, it is believed that he doesn't "love" the game but I think he's learned to realize that this is his meal-ticket (he's naturally built for it) and it showed this past season, as he was very consistent as a senior. He can shoot out to college 3PT range as well, but you don't really want him doing that unless he's wide-open. He has very good shot-blocking instincts and weirdly, he blocks almost all of his shots using his left hand even though he's a right-handed player.

Here's some highlights on him from this past season (Note: his weight is more in the 250-260 range, not 280 as listed in the video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWHEr6ja_pg

I hope this helps you guys have more insight on him.
Well I say he's raw because the biggest knock on him is that he was 23 dominating against 18 year olds. I don't see that as a knock but they believe the jump from 18-19 year old collegiate guys to NBA veterans is going to be big.
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Well I say he's raw because the biggest knock on him is that he was 23 dominating against 18 year olds. I don't see that as a knock but they believe the jump from 18-19 year old collegiate guys to NBA veterans is going to be big.

Not everyone in college basketball playing significant minutes is an 18 y.o. youngster. In fact, college basketball was very senior-laden this past season (i.e. 22 and 23 y.o. guys). So, I don't think you have a valid point in that regard because it's simply not true. His motor, yes, that can be questioned but his experience and skills, not so much.
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Hes the typical 2nd rounder. There's a lot to like. We got nice value there. But as of now he's a raw big man who teams were scared of because he's 24 which is wierd to me because I want the collegiate guy who's battle tested and stayed 4 years. If he was 19 he would've been a first rounder. Nothing not to like about him on the court. Mentally may be another story.
yes. We all know the horror story that was Tim Duncan, for example. You'd think more people would be picking big men that stayed four years. It takes time to develop a center.
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