Lamar Odom Traded to Dallas - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

mavs777 · 12-11-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsFTR

As a free agent.

They don't have cap space

Five-ofan · 12-11-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Do you mean why am I afraid that he will play center at the end? Because he will be a short non-shot blocking, non rebounding center. It will be like when we had killer playing center... Now I liked me some killer, but as a center he stunk it up and so will odom.

Hes 6-11, we just won a title with a non shotblocking center and he rebounds fine. In fact getting away from gasol and playing with dirk, i expect a double double from him.

dude1394 · 12-11-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JCmasta

It's great to have this amount of depth in a condensed, lockout shortened season.

If i'm a laker fan i'd be pretty pissed/confused right now.

Lakers fans will be fine at the end of the day, they didn't acquire this te just to sit on it.

bobbyfg7 · 12-11-2011, 12:57 AM

This is my original reaction but then I started thinking that this might be Cuban trying to put a package together for Paul and then I had this reaction:

Quick someone knock me back to Earth!!

mavs777 · 12-11-2011, 12:58 AM

Non rebounding? Man are you the ultimate pesimist we land LO for nothing and you hate it. He average 10 rebounds per 36 minutes on a extremely good rebounding term. In simple terms: he is a good rebounder.

grndmstr_c · 12-11-2011, 12:58 AM

Holy effing hell yeah! Granted I say that without yet knowing what picks/prospects Dallas gave up...but Odom is a terrific player with an incredibly friendly contract, and this is a hell of a move.

MavsFTR · 12-11-2011, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

They don't have cap space

Oh okay. Well in that case I definetly like our chances with Deron.

mavs777 · 12-11-2011, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Lakers fans will be fine at the end of the day, they didn't acquire this te just to sit on it.

Its been said this is a straight salary dump (in other words we couldn't find a taker for LO and he doesn't want to be here anymore), as for the exception its not big enough Hedo.

nowhereman · 12-11-2011, 01:00 AM

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ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
RT @Mike_Bresnahan: Lakers will get the Mavs' first-round pick in 2012, maybe a second-rounder as well

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chumdawg · 12-11-2011, 01:01 AM

As with the fantasy trade machine trades...why would LA do this?

dude1394 · 12-11-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Hes 6-11, we just won a title with a non shotblocking center and he rebounds fine. In fact getting away from gasol and playing with dirk, i expect a double double from him.

Okay then...I completely disagree with you. I've heard his natural position is small forward and he plays like one.

Antoine walker had 8.3 Rebs and 14.0 points for the Mavs and he was a complete cluster. I'm not saying odom will be but if he's playing center at the end of games I think we are screwed. He will probably feel the same.

nowhereman · 12-11-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

As with the fantasy trade machine trades...why would LA do this?

Lakers Beat Writer Mike Bresnahan has a source saying it's a straight salary dump. https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan

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Source confirms that Odom is gone "for sure," and Paul trade has fallen apart. Not for Howard, either. Source: It's a straight salary dump.

LonghornDub · 12-11-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Because he will be a short non-shot blocking, non rebounding center. It will be like when we had killer playing center

...have you ever watched Lamar Odom play outside of 4 playoff games against the Mavs?

Great, great move by the FO crew. Very excited about this one, especially given his contract status. Well done. This is a pretty salty roster (and we aren't done yet):

Dirk
Kidd
Terry
Odom
Shawn
Haywood
Dalembert (?)
Rudy
VC
Cardinal
Roddy
Brewer
Ian
Shawn

clutch#41 · 12-11-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Non rebounding? Man are you the ultimate pesimist we land LO for nothing and you hate it. He average 10 rebounds per 36 minutes on a extremely good rebounding term. In simple terms: he is a good rebounder.

THIS!!!

dude1394 · 12-11-2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Non rebounding? Man are you the ultimate pesimist we land LO for nothing and you hate it. He average 10 rebounds per 36 minutes on a extremely good rebounding term. In simple terms: he is a good rebounder.

Sorry that my latest pessimism about Tyson has colored all opinions. I don't hate him. I'm glad we got something for chandler.

BUT...if he's slated to play center at the end of games then you are correct, I hate him.

dude1394 · 12-11-2011, 01:07 AM

Shades of drew gooden/bass at the five. If that's where he is at the end of games I hate it.

clutch#41 · 12-11-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

Lakers Beat Writer Mike Bresnahan has a source saying it's a straight salary dump. https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan

this kinda makes me wonder. why would the lakers help make the mavs better? maybe cuban and the buss family had a convo and agreement that if this was going to go down that maybe howard is off limits for us? kinda if you rub our backs then we'll rub yours? i know this is a weird scenario but its kinda strange that Lakers-Mavs agreed on something

LonghornDub · 12-11-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Shades of drew gooden/bass at the five. If that's where he is at the end of games I hate it.

What?! Bass is 6'8". Odom is 6'10" with very long arms. And Gooden's game could not be any different than Odom's.

I think you need to take a step back and re-calibrate here.

LonghornDub · 12-11-2011, 01:11 AM

*edit* double post

dude1394 · 12-11-2011, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

What?! Bass is 6'8". Odom is 6'10" with very long arms. And Gooden's game could not be any different than Odom's.

I think you need to take a step back and re-calibrate here.

I'm quite sure that sir Charles is going to agree with my opinion.

grndmstr_c · 12-11-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Shades of drew gooden/bass at the five. If that's where he is at the end of games I hate it.

You have now compared Lamar Odom to Antoine Walker, Drew Gooden, and Brandon Bass. Maybe you should take a step back, let things simmer for a bit, give your perspective a chance to adapt. I know you love the team. You should be happy about this. It's a crazy good move.

grndmstr_c · 12-11-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

What?! Bass is 6'8". Odom is 6'10" with very long arms. And Gooden's game could not be any different than Odom's.

I think you need to take a step back and re-calibrate here.

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to LonghornDub again.

You beat me to it.

Five-ofan · 12-11-2011, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I'm quite sure that sir Charles is going to agree with my opinion.

Please tell me you are not really using that defense.

Also this gives us the option of keeping dirks minutes low in this helter skelter season without suffering all that much.

Jon Avalon · 12-11-2011, 01:17 AM

So, assuming VC's gets done as well.

From Jeff Caplan ESPN post, this is what our roster is shaping up to be with 1 spot open.

PG: Jason Kidd, Rodrigue Beaubois, Dominique Jones
SG: Vince Carter, Rudy Fernandez, Jason Terry
SF: Lamar Odom, Shawn Marion, Corey Brewer
PF: Dirk Nowitzki, Brandan Wright, Brian Cardinal
C: Brendan Haywood, Ian Mahinmi

LonghornDub · 12-11-2011, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I'm quite sure that sir Charles is going to agree with my opinion.

I'm quite sure that nobody who actually watches the NBA would ever compare Lamar Odom to any of the players you've listed in your previous posts.

You know I like you and everything, so I'm really not trying to be rude, but like I (and gmc) said...maybe take a step back and look at this one again tomorrow and see how you feel?

Five-ofan · 12-11-2011, 01:19 AM

Assuming rudy gets his visa straightened out, i think terry is gone.

bobatundi · 12-11-2011, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Maybe dirk will get one of the kardashians after all.

I vote for Kim. 'Cause Kourtney isn't cute, and Chloe is a man.

MavsFTR · 12-11-2011, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Avalon

So, assuming VC's gets done as well.

From Jeff Caplan ESPN post, this is what our roster is shaping up to be with 1 spot open.

PG: Jason Kidd, Rodrigue Beaubois, Dominique Jones
SG: Vince Carter, Rudy Fernandez, Jason Terry
SF: Lamar Odom, Shawn Marion, Corey Brewer
PF: Dirk Nowitzki, Brandan Wright, Brian Cardinal
C: Brendan Haywood, Ian Mahinmi

Our only weakness would be at the center position, imo.

dude1394 · 12-11-2011, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

You have now compared Lamar Odom to Antoine Walker, Drew Gooden, and Brandon Bass. Maybe you should take a step back, let things simmer for a bit, give your perspective a chance to adapt. I know you love the team. You should be happy about this. It's a crazy good move.

Only if he's asked to play center at the end, if so I think he's being setup to fail. I do like that he was obtained for chandler as we got a good asset for chandler.

I will be interested to see how he fits. He looks like a smalish power forward to me..he's a very talented player. He doesn't seem quick enough to cover real small forwards and the dirkster is going to cover the power forwards. I hope I'm wrong but he seems like an odd fit to me. As a reserve great, he'll really help out the second unit.

My thinking always however goes to the ending team and I do not see how he fits there at the moment.

esoteric562 · 12-11-2011, 01:22 AM

Just heard the news! whoa this came out of nowhere LOL

twistaeffect2004 · 12-11-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Assuming rudy gets his visa straightened out, i think terry is gone.

Maybe for a center?

Terry for Kaman works. Not sure if there's much incentive to do it on LA's part though.

clutch#41 · 12-11-2011, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Assuming rudy gets his visa straightened out, i think terry is gone.

What??? JETS not going anywhere. atleast for this season!! unless hes package for Howard etc!!

dude1394 · 12-11-2011, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Please tell me you are not really using that defense.

Also this gives us the option of keeping dirks minutes low in this helter skelter season without suffering all that much.

I believe that folks who value size and defense at the end of games will agree with me, how's that...Charles just happens to be one of them.

grndmstr_c · 12-11-2011, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Assuming rudy gets his visa straightened out, i think terry is gone.

Why? JET's got the right contract, fits well in the Mavs' backcourt as long as Kidd's around, and spent the early part of last summer making LeBron James his bitch.

BGMaverick9 · 12-11-2011, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsFTR

Our only weakness would be at the center position, imo.

I'd disagree a bit and say the PG position is the "weakness"
You could have a variety guys who have experience playing the 5. It gets a little more shaky at the point guard position.

I know there's guys who could fill in the position, but I still see that as a little more of a concern.

Five-ofan · 12-11-2011, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

Maybe for a center?

Terry for Kaman works. Not sure if there's much incentive to do it on LA's part though.

I was actually just looking at that but i just dont see why they do it.

dude1394 · 12-11-2011, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I'm quite sure that nobody who actually watches the NBA would ever compare Lamar Odom to any of the players you've listed in your previous posts.

You know I like you and everything, so I'm really not trying to be rude, but like I (and gmc) said...maybe take a step back and look at this one again tomorrow and see how you feel?

I would be shocked if I felt any different about odom playing center at the end of games.

Five-ofan · 12-11-2011, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Why? JET's got the right contract, fits well in the Mavs' backcourt as long as Kidd's around, and spent the early part of last summer making LeBron James his bitch.

Too many people not enough minutes.

EricaLubarsky · 12-11-2011, 01:26 AM

Bizarre and totally unexpected. Odom has skills but I really worry about his fit here both as a personality and a player. Even if he's amazing, he plays 4/3. Dirk is our big 4 guy and Marion is a 3/4. Not a lot of room for him unless he's our center.

Really rules out daly too. Don't know if daly fell through first or this was just too good but the trade piece is gone.

Still, I like that our experiment is consistently leaving next summer open

grndmstr_c · 12-11-2011, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Too many people not enough minutes.

JET is the Mavs' best SG. The team is not going to trade away their best SG, who's got an expiring contract, because of a minutes crunch.