12-21-2014, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SeanL
Personally I think all guns should be banned. Which would make it astronomically harder to obtain a gun whether legally or illegally.
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I applaud your idealism, but that's a ridiculously naive notion... Banning something doesn't make it go away -- or even minimize its presence (hello, drugs!)
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12-21-2014, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
I applaud your idealism, but that's a ridiculously naive notion... Banning something doesn't make it go away -- or even reduce its numbers (hello, drugs!)
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No, it won't go away completely, but if you look at the rest of the developed world even severe restrictions (not even out right banning) dramatically decreases the ease of access to firearms by all people.
Last edited by SeanL; 12-21-2014 at 12:46 AM.
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12-21-2014, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SeanL
No, it won't go away completely, but if you look at the rest of the developed world even severe restrictions (not even out right banning) dramatically decreases the ease of access to firearms by all people.
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And you're picking this thread to make your anti-gun stance? A thread about two human beings that were murdered in retaliation for two other human beings that were murdered? You think this is a gun issue and not a classic "us vs. them" issue?
You gotta look past your talking points and see the bigger picture here...
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12-21-2014, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
And you're picking this thread to make your anti-gun stance? A thread about two human beings that were murdered in retaliation for two other human beings that were murdered? You think this is a gun issue and not a classic "us vs. them" issue?
You gotta look past your talking points and see the bigger picture here...
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Is this not a political forum?
Anyhow, I think this is exactly the time to make this point. You can't wait until everyone stops caring about a problem to propose a solution that would probably prevent future police deaths.
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12-21-2014, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SeanL
Is this not a political forum?
Anyhow, I think this is exactly the time to make this point. You can't wait until everyone stops caring about a problem to propose a solution that would probably prevent future police deaths.
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"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau
To simplify it for you: guns = branches, motivation to kill = roots.
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12-21-2014, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau
To simplify it for you: guns = branches, motivation to kill = roots.
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To use a hyperbole: atomic bombs don't kill people, people kill people. Let's give every law abiding citizen an atomic bomb.
Now clearly guns are not as destructive as atomic bomb. But they are destructive nonetheless. Nobody is a criminal until they decide to be one. There is no way of telling who will become a criminal. Precogs (from the Minority Report) have not been invented yet.
Last edited by SeanL; 12-21-2014 at 02:00 PM.
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12-23-2014, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
I applaud your idealism, but that's a ridiculously naive notion... Banning something doesn't make it go away -- or even minimize its presence (hello, drugs!)
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It does if you are serious about it. (Hello, Singapore!)
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12-23-2014, 05:36 PM
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It does if you are serious about it. (Hello, Singapore!)
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Singapore - population 5 million
America - population 315 million
Good luck, Chuck!
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12-23-2014, 05:40 PM
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Singapore - population 5 million
America - population 315 million
Good luck, Chuck!
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Singapore is a city state. America is a collection of independent states, correct? Which one of them doesn't have the wherewithal to do what little Singapore can do?
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