Larry Bird willing to trade an unhappy Oneil

[Tony tha Mavs fan]

Bird would deal an unhappy O'Neal

By STEVE WILSTEIN, AP Sports Columnist
September 4, 2003
Worse than a whining athlete is a young whining athlete making $126 million. To the rest of the paycheck-to-paycheck world, it's ludicrous. To a Hall of Famer who knows what it takes to win, it's intolerable.

Jermaine O'Neal ticked off Larry Bird by saying he wouldn't have signed the seven-year deal with the Indiana Pacers for that surreal sum last month if he knew the new boss was going to fire coach Isiah Thomas. The 6-foot-11 forward-center stopped short of demanding a trade, but made it clear it was on his mind.

Bird, a straight shooter in a suit as he was in a uniform, suggested Wednesday he'd accommodate O'Neal if he wanted to play somewhere else -- provided the Pacers got ``something good in return.'' Bird never had much patience for whining, figuring it got in the way of winning.



At the introduction of new head coach Rick Carlisle, Bird said he hoped O'Neal would reconsider his commitment to the team and have a great year.

``Then if he wants to leave town next year,'' Bird said, ``we'll have to talk about it.''

They're going to sit down soon, Larry Legend and the Pacers' ``20-10 man,'' the numbers referring to O'Neal's points and rebounds a game and the year his contract ends. They'll try to work out O'Neal's ``issues,'' Bird said.

``I've been very firm all along, even when I took the coaching job,'' Bird said. ``If we had players that weren't happy here, we would try to do our best to move them somewhere.''

O'Neal was going nowhere fast for the Portland Trail Blazers, riding the bench for most of four seasons before he found his game and an opportunity in Indiana under Thomas. Once the youngest player in the NBA at 17 in 1996 when he and another precocious teen, Kobe Bryant, were rookies and friends, the 24-year-old O'Neal came to regard Thomas as a father figure as much as a coach.

It's understandable, even honorable, that O'Neal would stand up for Thomas when confronted with the news of the firing last week in Puerto Rico. O'Neal was cruising to a gold medal with the U.S. team at the Tournament of the Americas in qualifying games for the 2004 Olympics when he found out Thomas was gone. Saying he was ``extremely disappointed'' and hurt by the decision, O'Neal implied that the Pacers misled him into believing Thomas would be staying.

As young as he still is, O'Neal is not naive. He's been around the NBA long enough to know that no coach is safe -- especially one who has an edgy history with the new president of basketball operations, on and off the court. Carlisle is Bird's man, a former Boston Celtics teammate and Pacers assistant coach, as Thomas never would have been.

O'Neal perfected his pout as a rookie -- unhappy with his bench time, the gray, drizzly weather in Portland and the local fondness for fish. He was grateful to go to Indiana and, for 126 million reasons, he should be happy to stay and not start pouting again.

The Pacers need his heart as much as his tall, strong body and soft touch. He can help make them a contender this year. Or, if he comes back sulking, he can break them.

Carlisle wisely reached out to O'Neal and gave him respect to begin the healing. He kept details of their ``nice conversation'' on Saturday private, but said he could appreciate Thomas' closeness to O'Neal, comparing it to his own in Detroit with Jerry Stackhouse.

``I told Jermaine that I understand what Isiah Thomas means to him, not only as a coach but as a mentor, as a friend and as a father figure,'' Carlisle said. ``I will in no way, shape or form try to replace that. Isiah Thomas will continue to be an important part of Jermaine's life and his basketball life and development.''

Carlisle gave Thomas a few figurative pats in his first words as the Pacers' coach, crediting him with instilling the right attitude about winning. Taking over on the brink of the season, Carlisle can't afford to alienate other players who may feel the way O'Neal does.

In describing his own abrupt changes lately -- fired from the Detroit Pistons, headed toward a TV job, made a U-turn back to coaching in Indiana -- Carlisle told an anecdote he surely will repeat to his players.

``Years ago, when I was working for Chuck Daly, he once said that the NBA is a business of dynamic change and great opportunity,'' Carlisle said. ``As I look back upon the events of the last three months, I've never come so to grips with that statement.''

He spoke about the changes the Pacers have made this summer, at the top and in the locker room, and how those changes create opportunities for several players.

This is a team in transition, led by a Hall of Famer with a certain vision of the game -- how it should be played and how players should perform. Bird brought that vision to the Pacers as a coach and failed only by his own high standards. For him it was always championship or bust.

Pursuing that now as a team president, he didn't hesitate to change coaches and he won't flinch from dealing O'Neal, or anyone else, who doesn't like it.

Steve Wilstein is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at swilstein(at)ap.org

[MFFL]

At the introduction of new head coach Rick Carlisle, Bird said he hoped O'Neal would reconsider his commitment to the team and have a great year.

"Then if he wants to leave town next year,'' Bird said, "we'll have to talk about it.''

That's a fair compromise.

[seelenjaeger]

It´s not a compromise. He just cannot move Jermaine before because of his BYC status.

Well, he might move him to Denver or Utah maybe, but ...

[Jeremiah]

I see it as a compromise. Essentially, he's saying to Jermaine to give Carlisle a chance.
And sure, Larry can't move JO for equal value right now, and seems prepared to trade him when he can. That in and of itself is a compromise.

Oh, and it sounds like Larry is going to put his stamp on the club. Now for the speculation, who oh who would JO be traded for?
In times like these, I like to consult
this.

[Nash13]

Even if Bird wanted to trade him next year, he can't. Jermaine O' Neal may now be the most overpaid player in the league, and that says a lot. The only people that make his type of money are Garnett, Shaq, Duncan, and Webber. He's not in their league. No one, not even San Antonio, would want to take on his big contract.

[MavKikiNYC]

O'Neal should:

1) shut up;

2) grow up;

3) nut up;

and

4) ramp up his game and play.

[Drbio]

Originally posted by: MavKikiNYC
O'Neal should:

1) shut up;

2) grow up;

3) nut up;

and

4) ramp up his game and play.

Kiki should write motivational speaches. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[jayC]

Hes never going to trade him. Hes just trying to appease his young superstar.

[dalmav1341-2]

WAH WAH WAH....JO will no doubt get over it.....He will be going nowhere.