REGULAR Season 2011/12

[clutch#41]

Warriors just beat the heat in OT LOL!!!

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by alby

Defensively, he gave up 31/11 to Rose.

No he didn't...he wasn't the one guarding Rose the whole time. Often Ridnour and JJB were on Rose. I actually watched most of this game because it was on NBATV. Rubio was actually +3 for the night. Not to hate on JJB, because he's played well when healthy this year, but he was God awful out there...turned in a -15. Minny looked best playing Rubio & Ridnour together. Their real problem is at the 2, 3, and 5. Johnson/Ellington is one of the worst SG combos in the NBA. Beasley has regressed this year at the 3, and Williams is just a rookie (honestly, he should start soon) and they've got Darko at the 5.

[b_o_r]

I am amazed how good Butler looks after tearing up his knee.

[dude1394]

Lebron gets a call, dirk gets mugged.

[dude1394]

Lechoke

[dude1394]

And griffin gets mauled...with nothing..


Nba refs...they are ...blind.

[dude1394]

Why is that ref lookin at a one inch monitor.

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by b_o_r

I am amazed how good Butler looks after tearing up his knee.

He's been good, but one thing he hasn't done like with us, is shoot the 3 ball well (30%).

[CadBane]

LBJ is a choke artist.

[dude1394]

Another bail out call for lechoke.

Nba refs they are paid off.

[Scoobay]

wow how many steps does lebron get? that last drive and "jump stop" was 2 steps and a shuffle around for 2 more steps...

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Scoobay

wow how many steps does lebron get? that last drive and "jump stop" was 2 steps and a shuffle around for 2 more steps...

As many as he needs to keep giving him fts so he won't REALLY choke.

[CadBane]

Man, Wade really gets UP on his boards. Blake is non-existent in L.A.'s offense atm.

[sefant77]

And we had guys here telling (before our 2012 cap plans) that 3years 15M would be a terrible deal for Butler....

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by sefant77

And we had guys here telling (before our 2012 cap plans) that 3years 15M would be a terrible deal for Butler....

It's early...he could very easily get injured again.

[nashtymavsfan13]

The Clippers sure are fun to watch, loved seeing them knock off the Heat tonight. Lebron and Wade were whining about calls the whole game, like always. Blake got mauled a few times with no call. Butler looks good, he's a great fit in their system. Gets to pick his spots on offense and doesn't receive a ton of pressure because he's playing alongside Blake and CP3. Deandre Jordan continues to impress me, he's so athletic, definitely one of the premier shot blockers in the league.

[alby]

Probably one of the worst officiated games in recent memory.

[CadBane]

Gotta say, Rudy has been making some NASTY passes with Denver...could have been fun to see here.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by sefant77

And we had guys here telling (before our 2012 cap plans) that 3years 15M would be a terrible deal for Butler....

And I stand by it. Let's not act like he's setting the world on fire.

[alby]

^ I agree.

[dalger]

Originally Posted by jthig32

And I stand by it. Let's not act like he's setting the world on fire.

Under the new CBA and with the plans we apparently have going into next summer, $5 million per season over three years could have been a bad idea. $8 million per year even more so.

However, the potential injury risk that comes along with him after his knee injury is just one of those risks one has to take at times. We gave Haywood a 5-year contract in spite of his reputation (by the way, I don't think he's lazy or doesn't care). Many people probably would have been fine with offering Tyson five years under the old CBA despite his injury problems in the past. We gave Kidd a 3-year deal in 2009 that could have turned into a bad contract eventually due to his age.

I don't think we should have matched the Clippers' offer. That said, Caron's been playing well enough so far to justify his salary and I still like to hold him in pretty high regard. He's not as worthless as some people around here made him out to be.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by dalger

Under the new CBA and with the plans we apparently have going into next summer, $5 million per season over three years could have been a bad idea. $8 million per year even more so.

However, the potential injury risk that comes along with him after his knee injury is just one of those risks one has to take at times. We gave Haywood a 5-year contract in spite of his reputation (by the way, I don't think he's lazy or doesn't care). Many people probably would have been fine with offering Tyson five years under the old CBA despite his injury problems in the past. We gave Kidd a 3-year deal in 2009 that could have turned into a bad contract eventually due to his age.

I don't think we should have matched the Clippers' offer. That said, Caron's been playing well enough so far to justify his salary and I still like to hold him in pretty high regard. He's not as worthless as some people around here made him out to be.

He didn't fit our system very well, we already had a SF better than him, and he was coming off a major injury. These are the reasons I had no interest in giving him a multi-year deal. He's playing well enough now that he's probably put to rest the concerns about his knee, but that doesn't change my other two issues. Is he worth $5 Mil a year in the general sense? Maybe. Would it have been smart for the Mavs to do it, no matter what their plans in 2012 were? No.

[rabbitproof]

Horford could be out for a minute. Atlanta is getting pummeled by injuries.

This schedule is wrecking havoc health-wise.

[b_o_r]

Originally Posted by sefant77

And we had guys here telling (before our 2012 cap plans) that 3years 15M would be a terrible deal for Butler....

But he got a 3yr/21M deal from the Clippers. Too much for a player who is on the wrong side of 30 and had a torn patella tendon.

Like I said earlier, he should be commended on getting himself back into shape after that injury.

[alby]

I thought he got 3/24? Either way he is overpaid and the main reason he has been looking good is because Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are playing 2 on 4 during pick and rolls. (No, seriously)

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by alby

I thought he got 3/24? Either way he is overpaid and the main reason he has been looking good is because Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are playing 2 on 4 during pick and rolls. (No, seriously)

Perfect for him, not the 1st nor 2nd option, would have been a 2nd option here based on a multi year deal, but with Paul driving and kicking Butler just needs to spot up, or a one bounce pull.

[CadBane]

Iman Shumpert 5-20. Lolz. Tyson has been getting merked all game by Gasol & co.

[mavs777]

mark jackson is funny, dwight break wilts free throw attempts record

[mavs777]

So far id rate the rookies

1A. Kyrie Irving
1B. Ricky Rubio
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Nikola Vucevic
5. Markief Morris
6. Tristan Thompson
7. Marshon Brooks
8. Jon Leuer
9. Derrick Williams
10. Chandler Parsons

[clutch#41]

Originally Posted by mavs777

So far id rate the rookies

1A. Kyrie Irving
1B. Ricky Rubio
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Nikola Vucevic
5. Markief Morris
6. Tristan Thompson
7. Marshon Brooks
8. Jon Leuer
9. Derrick Williams
10. Chandler Parsons

Heres my top 10
1 Rubio
2 Irving
3 Marshon Brooks
4 Brandon Knight
5 Derrick Willams
6 Kemba Walker
7 Norris Cole
8 Jimmer Fredete
9 Kawhi Leornard
10 Tristan thompson

[b_o_r]

Originally Posted by CadBane

Iman Shumpert 5-20. Lolz. Tyson has been getting merked all game by Gasol & co.

Gasol did that 2 him last year as well.

[b_o_r]

Originally Posted by mavs777

So far id rate the rookies

1A. Kyrie Irving
1B. Ricky Rubio
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Nikola Vucevic
5. Markief Morris
6. Tristan Thompson
7. Marshon Brooks
8. Jon Leuer
9. Derrick Williams
10. Chandler Parsons

Originally Posted by clutch#41

Heres my top 10
1 Rubio
2 Irving
3 Marshon Brooks
4 Brandon Knight
5 Derrick Willams
6 Kemba Walker
7 Norris Cole
8 Jimmer Fredete
9 Kawhi Leornard
10 Tristan thompson

Shumpert was in the top-10 until last night. That was a a ridiculous display of ineptitude. My biggest problem was D'Antoni did absolutely nothing about the situation. He is supposed to be your PG, he should have been sat down after the 1st qtr when he jacked up 12 shots.

[mavs777]

The problem with the Knicks (other than obviously there coach) is they really don't have a PG, Shumpert is more of a 2, Bibby just sucks, Douglas is a 2 also and his jumper looks terrible now.

[CadBane]

Denver sure is fun to watch.

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

Heres my top 10
1 Rubio
2 Irving
3 Marshon Brooks
4 Brandon Knight
5 Derrick Willams
6 Kemba Walker
7 Norris Cole
8 Jimmer Fredete
9 Kawhi Leornard
10 Tristan thompson

Lol, Morris says hi.

[mavspwnage]

Wade sprained an ankle tonight.



That pic will never get old.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

It's nice that his team is winning, but Devin Harris has been terrible this season. I'm really disappointed since he has had every opportunity to become the player I thought he'd be. Just kinda sad when Delonte West has been much better.

[mavs777]

Lowry is crazy underrated, averaging 16.5/9/7/2 and is one of the better guard defenders in the NBA. I think him, Paul, and Lawson are the 3 best PG's in the west and should make the all star game.

[rabbitproof]

Loving the LA-LA game.

[mavspwnage]

Clippers are getting Kobe'd. My god.