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Old 03-27-2023, 07:33 PM   #1121
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What are they doing? I was completely against tanking until the last two losses, but it should be the only strategy at this point. How hard is it to write Luka hamstring and Kyrie foot?
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Old 03-27-2023, 07:44 PM   #1122
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Yeah, this is typical Mavs. 11th pick to the Knicks here we come.
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Old 03-27-2023, 08:08 PM   #1123
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At least we have Hardy. He is literally the one guy keeping me from jumping ship right now.
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Just in, Dallas Mavericks trade a meaningless win for top 10 pick.
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At least we have Hardy. He is literally the one guy keeping me from jumping ship right now.
At some point we have to trade guys to get him a starting gig or we have to trade him.
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At some point we have to trade guys to get him a starting gig or we have to trade him.
Trading Hardy is NOT an option.
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I'm open to trading Hardy if it gets you an elite big man in return. Good luck finding one available.
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Old 03-27-2023, 11:04 PM   #1128
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Just in, Dallas Mavericks trade a meaningless win for top 10 pick.
What happens if they manage to get 8th or 7th seed?

Even with all the inconsistent Play I still believe if Luka and kyrie plays their best ball they can shock either Denver or Sacramento.

I know it sounds crazy because they have looked like shit all year as a team but in the playoffs things slow down and rotations get shorter.

If they reduce to a 8 man rotation in the playoffs similar to what they did last year who knows what will happen

Luka
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Luka might get that extra motivation because he always revs it up for the POst season.

I personally don't think they'll get a guy at 8th, 9th or 10th in this draft that will truly help them next season anyway. I don't trust the FO either with that pick.
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Old 03-28-2023, 07:59 AM   #1129
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What happens if they manage to get 8th or 7th seed?

Even with all the inconsistent Play I still believe if Luka and kyrie plays their best ball they can shock either Denver or Sacramento.

I know it sounds crazy because they have looked like shit all year as a team but in the playoffs things slow down and rotations get shorter.

If they reduce to a 8 man rotation in the playoffs similar to what they did last year who knows what will happen

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Luka might get that extra motivation because he always revs it up for the POst season.

I personally don't think they'll get a guy at 8th, 9th or 10th in this draft that will truly help them next season anyway. I don't trust the FO either with that pick.
Because teams don?t just magically turn it on after being an under 500 team. The defense makes the games unwatchable. And it would be the same in the playoffs which I?d wager they wouldn?t get out of a play in anyway.
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What happens if they manage to get 8th or 7th seed?

Even with all the inconsistent Play I still believe if Luka and kyrie plays their best ball they can shock either Denver or Sacramento.

I know it sounds crazy because they have looked like shit all year as a team but in the playoffs things slow down and rotations get shorter.

If they reduce to a 8 man rotation in the playoffs similar to what they did last year who knows what will happen

Luka
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THJ
Wood
Hardy


Luka might get that extra motivation because he always revs it up for the POst season.

I personally don't think they'll get a guy at 8th, 9th or 10th in this draft that will truly help them next season anyway. I don't trust the FO either with that pick.
If my gramma had wings she could be an airplane. We are in no man's land right now, not getting POs or a pick. Terrible spot but predicted as much.

With Luka and Kyrie there's a small chance if you give into the fantasy of a miracle happening. This team has been so uninspiring and lacking key fundamentals I can't bring myself to believe in them. To believe we have a shot at a miracle in the POs would be looking past Kidd who is always standing in the way.

I don't think we are shocking anyone. FO and Kidd have used up all their shocking with roster management and general coaching fvckery.
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The idea of the 7-8 seed is all dandy until you realize who is coaching the team.

So even IF we overcame our rebounding/defense/big man problem, welp, we can't overcome the coach.
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Remember when Hornets won the rebounding battle 57-26 or when the pacers got 4 offensive rebounds in one possession? Hell they couldnt even be on the same page for the tip off the other night lol

Its going to come down to chicago and dallas for the 10th spot in the draft, and even then theres a 1/5 chance a team jumps us. They wont get 9th spot which is utah right now at 1.5 games ahead of us.

six games left, bulls are 10th in play in, and only one game back of 8th, theyve been on a resurgence with Pat Beverly (a guy we couldve used to inject some emotion into this team). mavs are pretty much in the same boat without the resurgence. gonna be a weird finish whatever happens.

mavs will finish like 3-3, may or may not get to the play in, lose if they do because they would need 2 straight wins. And finally give the pick to NY.

Edit: bulls at mavs april 7 will be the determining factor in draft order
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Don't get too worried y'all. Unless we've seen the resurgence of McGee and the staff has been holding him out for the stretch run, this team isn't improving their interior defense and rebounding. It was nice to see it of him last night, but is it real? We will see with this upcoming schedule...

Which is why I say relax if you're still on team tank. Philly, Miami, and Atlanta all on the road? That will tell you plenty of where this team is headed. Follow that up with Sacramento and Chicago all playing for seed positioning, that's a recipe for 0-5...
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We played a .400 team without their three best players.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves and pretend we are good.
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1 game vs a team missing crucial guys. We were bound to win one of the 3 between Cha 2x and Indy.

We still live and die by the 3. Our defensive scheme is ass. We are over reliant on back up bigs logging heavy minutes. Our coach became a huge wildcard and no one knows what he's going to do.

I'm sticking to my 2-7 prediction from the 9 game remaining mark. I just hope we don't miss POs AND lose the pick.
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We played a .400 team without their three best players.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves and pretend we are good.
You are right this team is far fr9m good

But look at the west you could say that about 4-5 teams that are battling for a lower playoff seed.

Several teams like the mavs are flawed

But I have seen this team win games that I didn't give them a shot in hell of winning like the last matchup with Philadelphia for example
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?We will need him,? Kidd said, referring to McGee. ?We?re going to need his energy, we?re going to need his ability to make it tough, and then also to be able to rebound the ball.

Wait, now Kidd wants to use Mcgee's ability to make it tough on offenses and rebound the ball????
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1 game vs a team missing crucial guys. We were bound to win one of the 3 between Cha 2x and Indy.

We still live and die by the 3. Our defensive scheme is ass. We are over reliant on back up bigs logging heavy minutes. Our coach became a huge wildcard and no one knows what he's going to do.

I'm sticking to my 2-7 prediction from the 9 game remaining mark. I just hope we don't miss POs AND lose the pick.
There are only 6 games left and I have them at 1-5 but likely 2-4.
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?We will need him,? Kidd said, referring to McGee. ?We?re going to need his energy, we?re going to need his ability to make it tough, and then also to be able to rebound the ball.

Wait, now Kidd wants to use Mcgee's ability to make it tough on offenses and rebound the ball????
Like I said before (maybe on twitter though lol), I have a weird suspicion that McGee has been hurting and they've had him on ice until the playoff push. Then again, if they were serious about it, that push should have started two weeks ago. IF McGee is healthy and can give what he did the other night, he basically becomes our best C option like that. That's how bad the Mavs 5 spot has been this year.

Again, though, terrible team missing 3 of their best. This three game stretch is going to expose this defense.
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Like I said before (maybe on twitter though lol), I have a weird suspicion that McGee has been hurting and they've had him on ice until the playoff push. Then again, if they were serious about it, that push should have started two weeks ago. IF McGee is healthy and can give what he did the other night, he basically becomes our best C option like that. That's how bad the Mavs 5 spot has been this year.

Again, though, terrible team missing 3 of their best. This three game stretch is going to expose this defense.
McGee is what he is though. The Suns couldn't play him in the playoffs because of his lack of mobility and the NBA is highly mobile at the 3/4/5 now. He's now 35 and has had a ton of little injuries.

I love McGee, but he's not Mavs Jesus
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McGee is what he is though. The Suns couldn't play him in the playoffs because of his lack of mobility and the NBA is highly mobile at the 3/4/5 now. He's now 35 and has had a ton of little injuries.

I love McGee, but he's not Mavs Jesus
Oh, I didn't mean to imply it. Just that he'd be our best option and it's sad.

The guy wears a back brace unless he's on the court lol
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I'm confused with the Mcgee comments

Dude has played on 3 different finals teams and played minutes to contribute off the bench to each one of them.

His minutes were only down this year in Dallas because he didn't have issues getting minutes in LA, Golden St or Phoenix

The comments about him not being able to hold up in the playoffs because of today's game are no different from gobert, zubac or ayton who all have issues when teams go small but they still but they still contribute on the boards vs smaller teams

McGee is better than Powell and that just might the added lift the mavs need to sneak into the playoffs

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Last ten games Mavs have a -8 rebound differential. For the SEASON they are dead last in the league with a differential of -5.5.

Last ten games Points in the Paint Differential for the Mavs is -8.2. They are currently last in the NBA with a season average - 8.3

Way to go Cuban, Nico, and Coach Kidd.
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Oh, I didn't mean to imply it. Just that he'd be our best option and it's sad.

The guy wears a back brace unless he's on the court lol
Didn't mean to sound critical. Just adding on. I agree that he's our best hope. He's also a third center at best on a good team.

Just shows how sad we are that none of our centers would be a reserve/second option on any other team in the league. Can't have three third or fourth-stringers and no starters/quality backups.

But of the three centers (Powell, Kleber, McGee), we have one guy who can set picks and roll. One guy who can hit threes and kinda defend. Then we have McGee who can rebound. For a team that struggles to rebound, I think we all agree that McGee should play more, but in the only thing I will say to defend Kidd, Kidd has no good options.

Reminds me of 2003-2004. Fortson could rebound but not defend. Bradley could kinda score (he had lost much of his defense). Ndiaye was decent at defense, but was a terrible offensive player/rebounder. None of the options were good.

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Yes, but the original cluster of comments about remaining games started with the final 9 game stretch. The way this season has gone, I expect we got 1 of the 2 we will win and San Antonio will put us out of our misery on the last game of the season.
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Last ten games Mavs have a -8 rebound differential. For the SEASON they are dead last in the league with a differential of -5.5.

Last ten games Points in the Paint Differential for the Mavs is -8.2. They are currently last in the NBA with a season average - 8.3

Way to go Cuban, Nico, and Coach Kidd.
Teams know we can easily be out hustled on the boards. They know we lack box out fundamentals. Most importantly, they can crash the boards because we don't rebound and push the ball. Teams go for broke on Offensive board on many possessions because there are no reprocussions.
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Teams know we can easily be out hustled on the boards. They know we lack box out fundamentals. Most importantly, they can crash the boards because we don't rebound and push the ball. Teams go for broke on Offensive board on many possessions because there are no reprocussions.
Yup. All of this is on Kidd. While it is true we have no quality bigs, better coaching would reduce these deficits more than a bit. Mavs should be fighting for 4th or 5th seed rather than being likely out of the playoffs. But then again, is the 4th or 5th seed and little to no chance to make a deep run a good thing?
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Teams know we can easily be out hustled on the boards. They know we lack box out fundamentals. Most importantly, they can crash the boards because we don't rebound and push the ball. Teams go for broke on Offensive board on many possessions because there are no reprocussions.
Did you see pandahanks video of the opening tip against Indiana? Ball was tipped and THJ wasn't even playing attention because he doesn't know what play is being run staring at the bench.

This was coaching in beginning, middle, and end of this season.
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Teams know we can easily be out hustled on the boards. They know we lack box out fundamentals. Most importantly, they can crash the boards because we don't rebound and push the ball. Teams go for broke on Offensive board on many possessions because there are no reprocussions.
I think to add to why teams are aggressive is that the Mavs have been poor in tempo and transition. They weren't afraid of a counter until Kyrie showed up to improve that somewhat. Now the Mavs have to figure out the rebounding equation and it will all even out. Just not sure that's possible with such little remaining in the season and no way to improve the roster now.
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I think to add to why teams are aggressive is that the Mavs have been poor in tempo and transition. They weren't afraid of a counter until Kyrie showed up to improve that somewhat. Now the Mavs have to figure out the rebounding equation and it will all even out. Just not sure that's possible with such little remaining in the season and no way to improve the roster now.
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Sounds like Mcgee will get more pt vs Philly to matchup with embiid

I know many have written the team off and many would like to see them tank for a high pick.

But if Mcgee plays with that same energy today I think the mavs might win this game. Philly has issues on the perimeter much like Dallas and Luka or Kyrie could attack Harden

I'm in the minority but I can see this team giving someone like Denver or Sacramento a tough 1st round matchup
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Lol Harden starts the game with a TO

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Yea. That was a big part of my point. We pose no threat to push thr ball in transition so why would teams not crash the glass? Especially when we are well known around the league for not boxing out - poor fundamentals.
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Did you see pandahanks video of the opening tip against Indiana? Ball was tipped and THJ wasn't even playing attention because he doesn't know what play is being run staring at the bench.

This was coaching in beginning, middle, and end of this season.
I did. It doesnt surprise me about the coaching or THJ. I just gave the pass because it was his first game ( I think) back in the SLU.
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Yup. All of this is on Kidd. While it is true we have no quality bigs, better coaching would reduce these deficits more than a bit. Mavs should be fighting for 4th or 5th seed rather than being likely out of the playoffs. But then again, is the 4th or 5th seed and little to no chance to make a deep run a good thing?
Speaking of making adjustments, I think some of our rebounding issues, aside from getting a body on someone, is that we constantly switch and are forced to scramble to recover. That leaves our "bigs" away from the rim often. It's cascading effect from what you're talking about in reducing the deficit with adjustments. Realizing the patterns, cause and effect and coming up with ways to mitigate.

After the PO run, I figured we would be able to get a top 4 seed for sure and roll in with confidence and momentum. Then Cuban Nico and Kidd sat down and came up with the tag line of "People forgot about Frank". They peddled this AND "We are getting Timmy back" so those two things will help offset the JB loss. Then Kidd decides to not start Wood. All before one single practice. That changed my whole outlook.
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