Chris Paul open to trade to Contender.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

You are absolutely wrong about them not being concerned about his happiness if they decide to ship him out.

Who is to say he won't be even more than a malcontent if he is traded to a team not on his list? For all we know, he only wants to go to those teams and he wants to remain in New Orleans otherwise. Granted, a team might swallow a pissed the eff off Paul but how do you think he reacts if they ship his butt to Minnesota (for say Rubio/Love/picks/cap filler)?

They absolutely care about the condition of the goods they're sending out because it affects the value of the returns they will get.

It doesn't matter "how it reflects." If they decide they want Rubio+Love+picks+cap filler, why in the world would they care how it reflects if they ship him to Minnesota? And if they don't want package, they're not going to trade him there.

The only thing that's going to affect where they send him is the value they get back (and maybe not wanting to send him to the same division/conference). I guess you're arguing that the value they get back is a function of his perceived happiness with that team. I think that's absolutely ridiculous given his caliber as a player--teams will offer boatloads for him and not give a crap about whether he'll be happy there.

But even if you're right, it doesn't change what the Hornets are directly concerned with, which absolutely isn't his happiness. All the Hornets are going to be looking at, still, is the value of the offer. They're not going to be framing these offers as they consider them in terms of Paul's happiness. If they get a series of bad offers, they're not going to be thinking, "Gee, let's make Chris happy so that we'll get better offers!" They're going to be thinking, "Let's keep shopping around and see if we can get a better offer."

[rabbitproof]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

It doesn't matter "how it reflects." If they decide they want Rubio+Love+picks+cap filler, why in the world would they care how it reflects if they ship him to Minnesota? And if they don't want package, they're not going to trade him there.

The only thing that's going to affect where they send him is the value they get back (and maybe not wanting to send him to the same division/conference). I guess you're arguing that the value they get back is a function of his perceived happiness with that team. I think that's absolutely ridiculous given his caliber as a player--teams will offer boatloads for him and not give a crap about whether he'll be happy there.

But even if you're right, it doesn't change what the Hornets are directly concerned with, which absolutely isn't his happiness. All the Hornets are going to be looking at, still, is the value of the offer. They're not going to be framing these offers as they consider them in terms of Paul's happiness. If they get a series of bad offers, they're not going to be thinking, "Gee, let's make Chris happy so that we'll get better offers!" They're going to be thinking, "Let's keep shopping around and see if we can get a better offer."

The teams that he wants will give the best offers. A Minny offer of Rubio/Love/etc is pretty damn good but you think Paul's gonna just play with a 10-win Minny team after he's asked out of a 30-win New Orleans team? Who is gonna gut their team for a guy who will demand a re-trade, and be even more pissed, or will simply walk in two years....

The Hornets have some leverage but more than operating from a position of strength, they are more like hostages of Paul's happiness (and his list).