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 06-09-2008, 03:08 PM #41 Flacolaco Rooting for the laundry     Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21,342 I assume it has everything it had before...so yeah on the wifi. __________________
 06-09-2008, 04:09 PM #42 MavsX Diamond Member     Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 7,031 groupwise support? anybody know>?
 06-09-2008, 06:14 PM #43 EricaLubarsky Inactive.     Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 37,818 I may have to switch to AT&T for this one. Wow, 200 bucks for the 8 gig and it comes with a better processor for games/applications as well as GPS?? Been pretty happy with T-mobile in phoenix but that is a great deal. Last edited by EricaLubarsky; 06-09-2008 at 08:31 PM.
 06-09-2008, 07:13 PM #44 alby Guru     Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,241 +gps +3g +battery life +75 countries -200 bucks that's pretty incredible if you ask me apple has taken over the world __________________ Contact Me Twitter: www.twitter.com/alnguyen84 Facebook: www.facebook.com/alnguyen84
06-09-2008, 07:14 PM   #45
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 Originally Posted by MavsX groupwise support too? or just exchange/notes ?? you didn't memtion b/g built in wifi..but i'm assuming it has this, yes?
yes to groupwise
yes to wifi

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 06-09-2008, 07:33 PM #46 Flacolaco Rooting for the laundry     Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21,342 I guess I'm ignorant....because I don't know wtf groupwise is. __________________
 06-09-2008, 07:44 PM #47 BGMaverick9 Guru   Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 11,806 I literally was just thinking last night, man I'd like an iPhone but I don't want to pay like over 300 dollars or more for one. Then ZOOM, this news comes out. __________________ Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/BallinWithBryan/
06-09-2008, 07:58 PM   #48
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 Originally Posted by Flacolaco I guess I'm ignorant....because I don't know wtf groupwise is.
It's some sort of Novell thing. That's all I know.
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 06-09-2008, 08:11 PM #49 alby Guru     Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,241 they are also working with Cisco to have the VPN client __________________ Contact Me Twitter: www.twitter.com/alnguyen84 Facebook: www.facebook.com/alnguyen84
 06-09-2008, 08:13 PM #50 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member   Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 game time
 06-09-2008, 08:28 PM #51 u2sarajevo moderately impressed     Join Date: May 2003 Location: Home of the thirteenth colony Posts: 17,705 Groupwise is Novell's Exchange equivalent(for the most part anyway... it also provides instant messaging, which I guess with Communicator Microsoft does as well - integrated with Exchange anyway). And it's good to know that Flaco is joining the ever growing Chris-Chris community in the world. That information can be used in the future, no doubt. __________________ Last edited by u2sarajevo; 06-09-2008 at 08:29 PM.
06-09-2008, 10:09 PM   #52
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 Originally Posted by u2sarajevo Groupwise is Novell's Exchange equivalent(for the most part anyway... it also provides instant messaging, which I guess with Communicator Microsoft does as well - integrated with Exchange anyway). And it's good to know that Flaco is joining the ever growing Chris-Chris community in the world. That information can be used in the future, no doubt.

props to u2 as usual. My company migrated to GroupWise from Exchange like 3-4 years ago. They were told that outlook was too vulnerable to viruses, and that groupwise was a better decision in the long run. Now groupwise has gone the linux route, and documentation and support for GroupWise is scarce. It sucks man. We manage our GroupWise server on a netware box. It is awful. Almost nothing new that comes out supports GroupWise.

We are counting down the days to migrate back to exchange, although, from what i have heard. Migrating from groupwise to exchange can be very bloody. (meaning lose data)

So yeah.

I was asking because a bunch of our users kept asking about the iPhone when it first came out, and our excuse for not having to support it was it won't work with groupwise. Now it looks like it will work. I hope non of those idiots read about the new 3g iPhone and figure out it supports groupwise.

I like just supporting our blackberry enterprise server, i dont want to have to deal with other handhelds and crap.

06-09-2008, 10:26 PM   #53
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 Originally Posted by u2sarajevo Groupwise is Novell's Exchange equivalent(for the most part anyway... it also provides instant messaging, which I guess with Communicator Microsoft does as well - integrated with Exchange anyway). And it's good to know that Flaco is joining the ever growing Chris-Chris community in the world. That information can be used in the future, no doubt.
You're just jealous of my new signature.
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 06-09-2008, 11:37 PM #54 Evilmav2 Diamond Member     Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,788 I've had my issues with Apple as well over the last few years, but at this price point I'm going to have to go pick up one of these as soon as it comes out on July the 11th, even it means getting up a the butt-crack of dawn and camping out at the apple or AT&T store before it opens. I need to renew my AT&T contract anyway, so I'm pretty set on taking advantage of the AT&T rebate and picking up either the 8GB, or possibly the 16GB on the first day they come out... __________________ What has the sheep to bargain with the wolf? Last edited by Evilmav2; 06-10-2008 at 12:08 AM.
 06-10-2008, 09:16 AM #55 Rhylan Minister of Soul     Join Date: May 2001 Location: on the Mothership Posts: 4,893 Makes you wonder when they'll adjust iPod touch prices. $299 for 8GB and$399 for 16GB isn't going to move a lot of units.
 06-10-2008, 12:55 PM #56 Flacolaco Rooting for the laundry     Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21,342 Yup...they're raising the data plan from 20 to 30 bucks a month on top of your existing at&t plan. That makes the phone $240 more expensive over 2 years. Nice try apple...you bastards. __________________  06-10-2008, 01:08 PM #57 jthig32 Lazy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lazytown Posts: 18,721 Knew it had to be too good to be true. __________________ Current Mavs Salary outlook (with my own possibly incorrect math and assumptions) Mavs Net Ratings By Game (Using BRef.com calculations for possessions, so numbers are slightly different than what you'll see on NBA.com and ESPN.com  06-10-2008, 02:10 PM #58 alby Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,241 so +40 bucks over two years for a new phone with new features. pretty good deal if you ask me __________________ Contact Me Twitter: www.twitter.com/alnguyen84 Facebook: www.facebook.com/alnguyen84  06-10-2008, 02:14 PM #59 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 his point was you are still paying$400 + for the phone.
 06-10-2008, 02:19 PM #60 Flacolaco Rooting for the laundry     Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21,342 Right...they said they were lowering the price for the phone. That would be true, if you didn't HAVE to get a data plan. Which you do. Since you MUST get a data plan, and they've raised the data plan cost by 10 dollars a month, that's a 240 dollar increase on the whole thing, however you want slice it up. I could've bought the other iPhone for $399 + 24 months of$20 data plan = $879.00 Or now,$199 for phone + 24 months of $30 data plan =$919.00 total cost. They're actually getting 40 more bucks out of you, total. Good deal over 2 years for the added features? Maybe so. But to read these headlines "cheaper iPhone" is a joke. __________________ Last edited by Flacolaco; 06-10-2008 at 02:20 PM.
 06-10-2008, 02:23 PM #61 alby Guru     Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,241 Oh I know what you meant, I'm just saying 20 dollars a year for an upgrade isn't a bad deal IMHO. If other products priced around ~400 bucks only cost 20 dollars a year to upgrade, I would be very happy. __________________ Contact Me Twitter: www.twitter.com/alnguyen84 Facebook: www.facebook.com/alnguyen84
 06-10-2008, 02:25 PM #62 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member   Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 I guess you would have to add another $200 to that if you want to make yourself feel better in Apple's way of thinking. So$1119.00 would be the cost for new features same price. So you are paying an extra $240 for the new features. I am not making any sense now that I reflect... \end{randomthoughts} Last edited by ShaggyDirk; 06-10-2008 at 02:26 PM.  06-10-2008, 02:32 PM #63 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 Flaco, data plan = internet in tech terms?  06-10-2008, 02:39 PM #64 Flacolaco Rooting for the laundry Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21,342 Technically it encompasses the internet, the text messaging, and the "visual voicemail" parts of the functionality I believe. __________________  06-10-2008, 02:40 PM #65 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 ok, so instead of paying the extra$20 on top of your current phone plan, you are paying $30...right?  06-10-2008, 02:44 PM #66 Flacolaco Rooting for the laundry Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21,342 I'm not paying them anything. They got me intrigued and then they pulled the rug out. __________________  06-10-2008, 02:50 PM #67 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 the funny thing about this is the people who already own an iphone are going to pay for the new one... so really Apple could give two shits if anybody else gives them their money. Last edited by ShaggyDirk; 06-10-2008 at 02:50 PM.  06-10-2008, 02:51 PM #68 dalmations202 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Just outside the Metroplex Posts: 5,539 It's not about the cool new razor -- it's about selling the razor blades that makes the . __________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have". Gerald Ford "Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Capt. Bob "Wolf" Johnson  06-10-2008, 02:53 PM #69 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 dalmations, do you know how to keep the same razor blade (i.e. turbo) for about a year?  06-10-2008, 02:54 PM #70 bernardos70 Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 6,652 HTC Diamond and HTC Touch Pro....... __________________ Let's go Mavs!  06-10-2008, 02:54 PM #71 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 good analogy by the way!  06-10-2008, 03:04 PM #72 alby Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,241 Not sure how that works. Anyways, I just sold my old iPhone for 400 dollars on Ebay today (unlocked), that I had for less than a year. Now, I'm going to use that 400 to invest 440 (200 for the phone, extra 240 for the data plan) into a brand new iphone for the next two years. Like I said, comes out to be 20 bucks a year for an upgrade. Not too shabby. __________________ Contact Me Twitter: www.twitter.com/alnguyen84 Facebook: www.facebook.com/alnguyen84  06-10-2008, 03:06 PM #73 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 what a dumbass. 06-10-2008, 03:06 PM #74 nikeball Platinum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: hogwarts - school of witchcraft and wizardry Posts: 2,301 Quote:  Originally Posted by bernardos70 HTC Diamond and HTC Touch Pro....... laaaaaaaaaaaaaag __________________ i bleed burnt orange. Hook 'Em Horns \m/ 06-10-2008, 03:08 PM #75 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 Quote:  Originally Posted by bernardos70 HTC Diamond and HTC Touch Pro....... that demo didn't go to well...they definitely needed a better presenter. 06-10-2008, 03:14 PM #76 dalmations202 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Just outside the Metroplex Posts: 5,539 Quote:  Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk dalmations, do you know how to keep the same razor blade (i.e. turbo) for about a year? Nope, but Bic single blades cost next to nothing and I can throw them away every 3 days and not worry about it because 1 set of blades for my good razor costs more than the 3 bags of 30 of the disposable ones. I guess my point is that the recurring income in the long run is where you make your money from a business standpoint as long as you can stay golden in cash flow. People don't mind paying$41.67 a month for stuff, just don't tell them it is costing them $500 a year. __________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have". Gerald Ford "Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Capt. Bob "Wolf" Johnson  06-10-2008, 03:58 PM #77 ShaggyDirk Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,439 well, if you don't use them then don't worry about it. for those that do, dip them in rubbing alcohol when you get done shaving and wipe them down with a towel. 06-10-2008, 04:37 PM #78 Usually Lurkin Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 8,195 Quote:  Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk well, if you don't use them then don't worry about it. . yeah. Just grow a beard. and to complete the analogy, don't get a cell phone - stay away from technology completely, and live in a bunker somewhere. Just don't send me anything through the mail. 06-10-2008, 05:13 PM #79 jthig32 Lazy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lazytown Posts: 18,721 Quote:  Originally Posted by alby Not sure how that works. Anyways, I just sold my old iPhone for 400 dollars on Ebay today (unlocked), that I had for less than a year. Now, I'm going to use that 400 to invest 440 (200 for the phone, extra 240 for the data plan) into a brand new iphone for the next two years. Like I said, comes out to be 20 bucks a year for an upgrade. Not too shabby. The thing is, my point of view (and Flac's) was that I'm completely uninterested in paying$400 for a cellphone. I was pretty interested in paying $200 for that particular phone, but not after learning that it's actually$440, not $200. If you were already willing to pay$400, then sure, \$440 for the next generation is nothing.

But I wasn't.
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 06-10-2008, 08:50 PM #80 alby Guru     Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,241 Gotcha. But you didn't know? The iphone is now capable of doing everything, short of going to the bathroom for you =P __________________ Contact Me Twitter: www.twitter.com/alnguyen84 Facebook: www.facebook.com/alnguyen84

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