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Amarelooms · 02-09-2023, 05:56 PM

How much can you give buyout players. Minimum? Any team can offer more or all same?

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 06:18 PM

Usually minimum I think unless you have your MLE or partial MLE left.

twistaeffect2004 · 02-09-2023, 06:31 PM

I feel with these buyouts we can potentially nab players of the same caliber that were dealt for a lot of assets.

Im hyped

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 06:49 PM

Kevin Love looks to be getting bought out, doesn't help us obviously.

BPo001 · 02-09-2023, 07:05 PM

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Kevin Love looks to be getting bought out, doesn't help us obviously.

Chris Fedor: #Cavs Koby Altman says he does not anticipate having any buyout discussions with Kevin Love. ? via Twitter ChrisFedor

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 06:50 PM

Noel seems to be another buyout, would take.

BPo001 · 02-09-2023, 07:04 PM

Christian Wood: Beat y?all trade rumors ? 😝 ? via Twitter Chriswood_5

Dallas41 · 02-09-2023, 07:19 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/k...ms-incomplete/

Mavericks swung big to get Kyrie Irving, but concerns remain on defense after no additional moves at deadline

The Mavericks will put up a lot of points, but can they stop anyone?

The Mavericks' interior defense has been a sore spot going back to last year's Western Conference finals, where Dallas made Kevon Looney look like an All-Star. This season, Dallas ranks dead last in rebounding, an issue that could've been addressed by trying to trade for a big man ahead of Thursday's deadline. Instead, Dallas will have to stick with a frontcourt rotation of Dwight Powell, Christian Wood, Maxi Kleber and JaVale McGee.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 07:21 PM

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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/k...ms-incomplete/

Mavericks swung big to get Kyrie Irving, but concerns remain on defense after no additional moves at deadline

The Mavericks will put up a lot of points, but can they stop anyone?

The Mavericks' interior defense has been a sore spot going back to last year's Western Conference finals, where Dallas made Kevon Looney look like an All-Star. This season, Dallas ranks dead last in rebounding, an issue that could've been addressed by trying to trade for a big man ahead of Thursday's deadline. Instead, Dallas will have to stick with a frontcourt rotation of Dwight Powell, Christian Wood, Maxi Kleber and JaVale McGee.

According to some on this board we're not allowed to voice our opinion or be upset about that, because we got Kyrie Irving.

Grady Wilson · 02-09-2023, 07:33 PM

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According to some on this board we're not allowed to voice our opinion or be upset about that, because we got Kyrie Irving.

lol. I'm assuming I'm one of those you're referring to. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I'm just curious why you're so bothered they didn't trade Powell for Mamba when there's not that much of a difference. If they could have gotten Mamba by trading someone else then fine. I won't question your opinions again because I didn't realize you would be that sensitive to a differing opinion. Carry on...

Dallas41 · 02-09-2023, 09:08 PM

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lol. I'm assuming I'm one of those you're referring to. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I'm just curious why you're so bothered they didn't trade Powell for Mamba when there's not that much of a difference. If they could have gotten Mamba by trading someone else then fine. I won't question your opinions again because I didn't realize you would be that sensitive to a differing opinion. Carry on...

Bamba is a better rebounder, shot blocker and 3 point shooter than Powell

There's no way on hell Kevon Looney does what he did vs Powell in last years playoffs vs Bamba

His size alone would have been an improvement

Powell has proven to be unplayable in every playoff series in his career and that is a fact.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady Wilson

lol. I'm assuming I'm one of those you're referring to. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I'm just curious why you're so bothered they didn't trade Powell for Mamba when there's not that much of a difference. If they could have gotten Mamba by trading someone else then fine. I won't question your opinions again because I didn't realize you would be that sensitive to a differing opinion. Carry on...

Why is it you've only taken your stance with me not Dallas41 who also wants Bamba over Powell and just put you in your place completely? I don't even know you yet you treated me like my IQ was 10 the first post you made to me. Try it with Dallas41 I won't be conversating with you further.

This board loves it some Powell and Mark Cuban, I don't like either one. I don't care who disagrees.

Bryan_Wilson · 02-09-2023, 10:04 PM

Well if they get some defense from buyout market we will prolly be no worse than if we made an on the margins move like some of these.

It really sucks they couldn't make a bigger move though(Wood, THJ, Powell). It takes two to make a trade, sometimes more even, but it still sucks. Kyrie trade was good, the follow through wasn't.... whether because cuban made the decision we were done or because the market evaluation of what we had made the decision for us doesn't rly matter to me.

BPo001 · 02-09-2023, 08:11 PM

Mikal Bridges getting interviewed on TNT. maybe that?s just how he always is, but he sounds pretty bummed to have been traded.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-09-2023, 09:10 PM

Should be mentioned that the only two superstars traded were from Brooklyn. No Lavine, Siakam, or even lesser OG were moved. Not even Bojan.

Dallas41 · 02-09-2023, 09:11 PM

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Should be mentioned that the only two superstars traded were from Brooklyn. No Lavine, Siakam, or even lesser OG were moved. Not even Bojan.

Some quality young players went for 2nd round picks though

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 09:43 PM

No one on this board loves Cuban or Powell. What a straw man.

The closest we?ve seen to defending Powell is saying he could be a decent backup.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 09:46 PM

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No one on this board loves Cuban or Powell. What a straw man.

The closest we?ve seen to defending Powell is saying he could be a decent backup.

You love Cuban though.

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 09:43 PM

No one on this board loves Cuban or Powell. What a straw man.

The closest we?ve seen to defending Powell is saying he could be a decent backup.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 09:50 PM

I apologize although I'm not 100% to blame I am probably 75%. I don't want to argue anymore, with anyone.

Dallas41 · 02-09-2023, 10:25 PM

Mavs FO

"we aren't done yet"

Trade deadline passes well we had deal 95% done with Philly but they wanted to much

There's always some report every year talking about how close the Mavs were to making some deal and it gets leaked almost intentionally as they want to put it out there so that the fan base doesn't get upset

SMC0007 · 02-09-2023, 11:14 PM

Mattise would have been super meh anyway. Idgaf about a near miss there.

We could have used a big, not sure they plan to keep Silva and actually use him like they probably should. They dwf should be trying to see if they can get a little more out of McGee.

BPo001 · 02-10-2023, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Mattise would have been super meh anyway. Idgaf about a near miss there.

We could have used a big, not sure they plan to keep Silva and actually use him like they probably should. They dwf should be trying to see if they can get a little more out of McGee.

My guess is they find someone on the buyout market and Silva is odd man out.

SMC0007 · 02-10-2023, 01:32 AM

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My guess is they find someone on the buyout market and Silva is odd man out.

Buyout wouldnt surprise me, but Idk that they know enough about what Silva can do here.

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2023, 08:16 AM

Simon2 · 02-10-2023, 12:13 PM

Do the Mavs have any MLEs left? How much?

liqwidhalo · 02-10-2023, 12:24 PM

5 2nds for either Jae Crowder or Gary Payton II is too much.

purplefrog · 02-10-2023, 12:59 PM

Feb 10
A person familiar with negotiations confirmed Dallas front office has not offered Wood a contract extension, despite recent national reporting to the contrary. Doing so would appear unlikely to benefit the Mavericks roster-building flexibility as they evaluate long-term prospects with the controversy-ridden Irving.
Source: Callie Caplan @ Dallas Morning News

Melonhead · 02-10-2023, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Feb 10
A person familiar with negotiations confirmed Dallas front office has not offered Wood a contract extension, despite recent national reporting to the contrary. Doing so would appear unlikely to benefit the Mavericks roster-building flexibility as they evaluate long-term prospects with the controversy-ridden Irving.
Source: Callie Caplan @ Dallas Morning News

I knew it.

Amarelooms · 02-10-2023, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Feb 10
A person familiar with negotiations confirmed Dallas front office has not offered Wood a contract extension, despite recent national reporting to the contrary. Doing so would appear unlikely to benefit the Mavericks roster-building flexibility as they evaluate long-term prospects with the controversy-ridden Irving.
Source: Callie Caplan @ Dallas Morning News

Cuban being dummy. I guess trading for players and losing 1st round picks and then letting them walk for nothing back is smart team building - what an idiot.

Melonhead · 02-10-2023, 02:17 PM

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Cuban being dummy. I guess trading for players and losing 1st round picks and then letting them walk for nothing back is smart team building - what an idiot.

He only got Wood to take pressure off himself for letting Brunson walk. Idiot gave up a FRP and wants nothing to do with Wood on the team lol

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-10-2023, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Feb 10
A person familiar with negotiations confirmed Dallas front office has not offered Wood a contract extension, despite recent national reporting to the contrary. Doing so would appear unlikely to benefit the Mavericks roster-building flexibility as they evaluate long-term prospects with the controversy-ridden Irving.
Source: Callie Caplan @ Dallas Morning News

FML.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-10-2023, 02:24 PM

If you can't move Wood on a reasonable extension, then you have no business running an NBA team.

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2023, 02:58 PM

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If you can't move Wood on a reasonable extension, then you have no business running an NBA team.

I mean he had no value when shopped and he's 14mill expiring which should give him at least some. He's in a similar boat as Rui Hachimura with a reasonable deal and yet no one in the league wanted him.

If you sign him for a huge deal and no one wants him, then he becomes another THJ/Bertans.

You can't have a guy taking 1/3 of your cap for years who just continues to play lackluster defense and careless, low-BBIQ ball that you are stuck with for 4-5 years.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-10-2023, 03:14 PM

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You can't have a guy taking 1/3 of your cap for years who just continues to play lackluster defense and careless, low-BBIQ ball that you are stuck with for 4-5 years.

Still no proof of lackluster d or careless low-BBIQ ball, but go on...

Wood's numbers in January before getting injured...21 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 2.5 apg, 2.3 bpg, 51% from the field and 33% from three. So the three ball fell off a bit, but everything else is as good as you can expect.

EricaLubarsky · 02-10-2023, 03:51 PM

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Still no proof of lackluster d or careless low-BBIQ ball, but go on...

Wood's numbers in January before getting injured...21 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 2.5 apg, 2.3 bpg, 51% from the field and 33% from three. So the three ball fell off a bit, but everything else is as good as you can expect.

If he's as good as you say, then why did no one want him? The only rumor was Reggie Jackson-- a player who will be waived. Mavs wanted to trade him, but no one wanted him.

Looks like he's asking 20-30mill. Why should we give him that?

If no one really wants him which the TDL shows us, then let him elicit offers. If no one gives him even 10/year, then we sign him for 10/year or we sign and trade him.

Melonhead · 02-10-2023, 04:18 PM

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Melonhead · 02-10-2023, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Looks like he's asking 20-30mill.

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why are you making shit up

SMC0007 · 02-10-2023, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

If he's as good as you say, then why did no one want him? The only rumor was Reggie Jackson-- a player who will be waived. Mavs wanted to trade him, but no one wanted him.

Looks like he's asking 20-30mill. Why should we give him that?

If no one really wants him which the TDL shows us, then let him elicit offers. If no one gives him even 10/year, then we sign him for 10/year or we sign and trade him.

That's a lot of bro science behind the idea that Wood still being here means he was shopped hard and no one wanted him.

Melonhead · 02-10-2023, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I mean he had no value when shopped and he's 14mill expiring which should give him at least some. He's in a similar boat as Rui Hachimura with a reasonable deal and yet no one in the league wanted him.

If you sign him for a huge deal and no one wants him, then he becomes another THJ/Bertans.

You can't have a guy taking 1/3 of your cap for years who just continues to play lackluster defense and careless, low-BBIQ ball that you are stuck with for 4-5 years.

1/3 of the cap?

15-16m is not a huge deal, and appropriate for his skills. Even then, he's now an asset you can offload in the offseason. Trade deadline vs offseason is a different scenario.

Cuban offered nothing. Even a 2 year deal he probably takes. Now we've wasted a FRP.

side note im getting ptsd from the giannis trade down to save 250k for the possibility to sign dwight howard. feels like we're repeating the same thing but with kyrie. plan powder 2023 in motion