GDT: Mavs @ Kings - February 9th - 9 PM CST/ 10 EST - Page 7 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Jon Avalon · 02-10-2011, 12:30 AM

Cousins is stupid, immature prick.

cxb65 · 02-10-2011, 12:30 AM

16 FTs for Kings in Q4 so far, and only 6 in the first three Qs

Rick41 · 02-10-2011, 12:31 AM

GTFO Cousins.

sefant77 · 02-10-2011, 12:31 AM

defail cousins

cxb65 · 02-10-2011, 12:32 AM

wow, Terry, you do not have to try a three

Crucial rebound for Dirk

Jon Avalon · 02-10-2011, 12:32 AM

lol is this win gonna come down to our opponent again not knowing whats going on?

Rick41 · 02-10-2011, 12:32 AM

The Kings can't execute for sh!t.

Bayliss · 02-10-2011, 12:33 AM

FF41's definition of an "easy win" is different than everyone else's. An "easy" win doesn't come at the buzzer.

Underdog · 02-10-2011, 12:33 AM

Odd ending...

sefant77 · 02-10-2011, 12:33 AM

uuuuuuuuuh the half empty arena is maaad

fluid.forty.one · 02-10-2011, 12:33 AM

cmon JET!

xrobx · 02-10-2011, 12:34 AM

whew..... thanks refs.

particleman · 02-10-2011, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Dirk in the playoffs will be lucky to average 7 rebounds a game.

I vehemently disagree with this statement.

j0Shi · 02-10-2011, 12:34 AM

The way we played against the Cavs and the Kings makes me a bit nervous about the B2B tomorrow in Denver ...

fluid.forty.one · 02-10-2011, 12:34 AM

see? easy

CadBane · 02-10-2011, 12:34 AM

Some of you guys showing your "I've never played basketball" card tonight. Dirk's wrist is clearly bad, and that ruins a lot of what you can do on the court.

fluid.forty.one · 02-10-2011, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

a bit nervous about the B2B tomorrow in Denver ...

easy win

fluid.forty.one · 02-10-2011, 12:35 AM

vintage CadBane

CadBane · 02-10-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

vintage CadBane

vintage kid who has never stepped in a gym in his life.

fluid.forty.one · 02-10-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

vintage kid who has never stepped in a gym in his life.

I think that would be impossible while going to public schools.

Wait, do you think anyone cares that you played some high school basketball? Like that gives you any cred at all. You sound like CreditXpert.

Sportstudi · 02-10-2011, 12:38 AM

A win is a win.

Bayliss · 02-10-2011, 12:39 AM

Of course Dirk's wrist is bothering him. But he still needs to show effort. And it hasn't been there tonight.

LonghornDub · 02-10-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Some of you guys showing your "I've never played basketball" card tonight. Dirk's wrist is clearly bad, and that ruins a lot of what you can do on the court.

Or he just had a bad game. Maybe the wrist was bothering him, maybe it wasn't. Who knows (except you, of course).

And speaking of cards nobody should ever play, the "You haven't played basketball and I have" card is near the top of the list.

CadBane · 02-10-2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

I think that would be impossible while going to public schools.

Wait, do you think anyone cares that you played some high school basketball? Like that gives you any cred at all. You sound like CreditXpert.

I played more than HS basketball, but that's irrelevant. Anyone that has even played the game at any level knows how important the wrist is. You can't shoot with a banged up wrist. It completely ruins your follow through. The shot is all in the wrist. Not the hands or the arms. It also makes you a bit more timid. It's difficult to do certain things aggressively when you have such limited movement with your strong hand, such as grabbing a board at an awkward angle or doling out a tough foul. I'm not saying Dirk didn't play a shitty game, I'm just saying that the wrist is a big reason why. As I mentioned, Dirk didn't even slam the ball after a Sac made FT, a ritual he ALWAYS does. That tells you a lot.

fluid.forty.one · 02-10-2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Of course Dirk's wrist is bothering him. But he still needs to show effort. And it hasn't been there tonight.

Nope, he has a bad wrist. He is allowed to give a horrible effort on defense, rebounding, hustle, blow layups and everything else. and CadBane loves to show off JJB's bad +/- so lets check out Dirk's -6. (second worse on the team)

Okay Cad. If he's that injured where it's making him play like sh*t (which he did, whatever the reason) then he needs to not play for awhile.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 02-10-2011, 12:45 AM

Hopefully Melo gets traded before tomorrow night's game........to us!

Rick41 · 02-10-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

I played more than HS basketball, but that's irrelevant. Anyone that has even played the game at any level knows how important the wrist is. You can't shoot with a banged up wrist. It completely ruins your follow through. The shot is all in the wrist. Not the hands or the arms. It also makes you a bit more timid. It's difficult to do certain things aggressively when you have such limited movement with your strong hand, such as grabbing a board at an awkward angle or doling out a tough foul. I'm not saying Dirk didn't play a shitty game, I'm just saying that the wrist is a big reason why. As I mentioned, Dirk didn't even slam the ball after a Sac made FT, a ritual he ALWAYS does. That tells you a lot.

Pfft... you nut up and start draining shots with your other hand.

CadBane · 02-10-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Or he just had a bad game. Maybe the wrist was bothering him, maybe it wasn't. Who knows (except you, of course).

And speaking of cards nobody should ever play, the "You haven't played basketball and I have" card is near the top of the list.

Sorry, but it's NOT a "maybe it was or wasn't" situation. There is absolutely no question it was. I don't need Brendan Haywood to tell me if he's good at FTs or not, I can simply watch the game.

1. He was wearing a protective device.

2. He was tentative on his jumpshots.

3. He was moving it around after several plays.

4. He didn't slam the ball after an opponent made FT, which he always does.

It's really not a question.

Hmm...lets add all the above to the fact that he hurts his wrist two days ago and then shoots terribly? Christ, you don't have to be Sherlock F'ing Holmes here.

fluid.forty.one · 02-10-2011, 12:50 AM

Cad is always cranky when Dirk has a bad game.

CadBane · 02-10-2011, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Nope, he has a bad wrist. He is allowed to give a horrible effort on defense, rebounding, hustle, blow layups and everything else. and CadBane loves to show off JJB's bad +/- so lets check out Dirk's -6. (second worse on the team)

Okay Cad. If he's that injured where it's making him play like sh*t (which he did, whatever the reason) then he needs to not play for awhile.

You don't listen, so why should I even bother responding?

fluid.forty.one · 02-10-2011, 12:52 AM

He clearly hurt the team tonight.... unless you think JJB really needed his high fives. If he's that limited (you say the injury is causing all of his deficiencies) then he needs to rest and not play for awhile.

LSMF · 02-10-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick41

Pfft... you nut up and start draining shots with your other hand.

I agree with this tbh.

LonghornDub · 02-10-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Sorry, but it's NOT a "maybe it was or wasn't" situation. There is absolutely no question it was. I don't need Brendan Haywood to tell me if he's good at FTs or not, I can simply watch the game.

Well that sure isn't a very strong analogy. Yikes.

Your list misses the point. It's not an issue of whether the wrist is physically tender at all. Yeah, he hurt it two days ago, so it's probably not feeling perfectly. The real issue is whether it's hurting to a point that it's materially affecting his play. Pro athletes play through all sorts of injuries all the time without a dip in their production. Dirk has done it time and time again.

So, maybe it bothered him enough to affect his performance, or maybe he just had a bad performance. I'd bet it made him more hesitant out there, but Dirk has very tentative off games sometimes even when healthy, so I'm not gonna say that conclusively.

But I do love that you're willing to do so.

CadBane · 02-10-2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Well that sure isn't a very strong analogy. Yikes.

Your list misses the point. It's not an issue of whether the wrist is physically tender at all. Yeah, he hurt it two days ago, so it's probably not feeling perfectly. The real issue is whether it's hurting to a point that it's materially affecting his play. Pro athletes play through all sorts of injuries all the time without a dip in their production. Dirk has done it time and time again.

So, maybe it bothered him enough to affect his performance, or maybe he just had a bad performance. I'd bet it made him more hesitant out there, but Dirk has very tentative off games sometimes even when healthy, so I'm not gonna say that conclusively.

But I do love that you're willing to do so.

This is, like I mentioned, where knowledge of playing the game comes in. Guys can successfully play through ankle injuries, which Dirk has done in the past. But the wrist is a bigger deal because it hinders almost everything you do on the court, including the biggest thing he does, which is shoot. Your shot is severely affected with an injured wrist. Period. I've had both injuries and I'd take an injured ankle over the wrist 11 times out of 10. Wrist, Knee, and Back are the three worst things to hurt from a "I can still play, but it hinders my game" perspective.

I don't see how you can't see that the wrist clearly affected his game negatively. It's not a case of just an "off game".

jcm28 · 02-10-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Cad is always cranky when Dirk has a bad game.

And when JJB has a good one as well.

dude1394 · 02-10-2011, 09:28 AM

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uhhh....is that the Rockets mascot at the game? Or am I seeing things?

I saw it too....made me do a double-take.

mcsluggo · 02-10-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mavsman

The Mavs got six(!) guys on their roster that got a higher carreer-ppg than Walton. Just for what it's worth.

walton hung around for YEARS as a weak shadow of his former self. IN his peak he was a beast on the court, his peak just came far to early because of injury.

honestly, that is one of the most special things about the diggler, a seven footer that makes his living on mobility, and has somehow magically managed to remain largely injury free. that is rare indeed. there are far more Yaos than Dirks in this regard.

mcsluggo · 02-10-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick41

It would help if Peja could hit a shot from time to time.

Peja is a good example... he peaked at 27 or so ppg ... a LONG time ago. injuries have worn him down to the current player that is a shadow of his previous self

mavspwnage · 02-10-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mcsluggo

Peja is a good example... he peaked at 27 or so ppg ... a LONG time ago. injuries have worn him down to the current player that is a shadow of his previous self

His peak was 24.2 ppg, but close enough. Either way, that's still higher than I expected. I would have guessed closer to 20.

LonghornDub · 02-10-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

This is, like I mentioned, where knowledge of playing the game comes in. Guys can successfully play through ankle injuries, which Dirk has done in the past. But the wrist is a bigger deal because it hinders almost everything you do on the court, including the biggest thing he does, which is shoot. Your shot is severely affected with an injured wrist. Period. I've had both injuries and I'd take an injured ankle over the wrist 11 times out of 10. Wrist, Knee, and Back are the three worst things to hurt from a "I can still play, but it hinders my game" perspective.

I don't see how you can't see that the wrist clearly affected his game negatively. It's not a case of just an "off game".

Guys play through all sorts of injuries. Plenty of guys have played through mildly injured wrists over the years. You can continue to conclusively state that it's "not just the case of an off game," but obviously you don't know. You are drawing inferences, which may or may not be well-informed. But to act like you know for certain one way or another is just hubris.

And for the love of god, man, knock it off with "knowledge of the game" card. It makes you sound absolutely desperate to give yourself credibility, which of course ends up ironically having the opposite effect.