Official offseason 2013-2014 thread - Page 13 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

DGM · 04-20-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

And Corey brewer scores 8 straight points...we suck at recognizing talent when its in front of us

Some players take time to develope. Carlisle did not play him. Same thing will happen with Roddy. Instead of developing him in a down year he wasted 30 minutes a game on Mike James.

dude1394 · 04-20-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM

Some players take time to develope. Carlisle did not play him. Same thing will happen with Roddy. Instead of developing him in a down year he wasted 30 minutes a game on Mike James.

Jesus...brewer was with the Mavs 13...13!!!! Regular season games and Carlisle started him in two of those. Somehow he was keeping him back. Man..there is some dumb stuff posted on message boards.

And in that year Carlisle won it all. I sure wish he had concentrated on developing brewer instead. Sheesh..

DGM · 04-20-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Jesus...brewer was with the Mavs 13...13!!!! Regular season games and Carlisle started him in two of those. Somehow he was keeping him back. Man..there is some dumb stuff posted on message boards.

And in that year Carlisle won it all. I sure wish he had concentrated on developing brewer instead. Sheesh..

Brewer was traded the following year...dumb poster.

dude1394 · 04-20-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM

Brewer was traded the following year...dumb poster.

How does that reflect on Carlisle? He now has to do the gm job or he's not developing players?

DGM · 04-20-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

How does that reflect on Carlisle? He now has to do the gm job or he's not developing players?

Mavs do not give away Brewer without ok from RC.

dude1394 · 04-21-2013, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DGM

Mavs do not give away Brewer without ok from RC.

Rc also okayed Tyson, jet, jjb,jkiddo,Stevenson. Dude you need to get into the real world.

FreshJive · 04-21-2013, 04:21 AM

Brewer was sacrificed for the fa pipe dream. It was a mistake. It has nothing to do with Carlisle. Carlisle played him plenty, in important moments.

Sportstudi · 04-21-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DGM

Mavs do not give away Brewer without ok from RC.

DGM · 04-21-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Rc also okayed Tyson, jet, jjb,jkiddo,Stevenson. Dude you need to get into the real world.

Those guys were not traded. They all left as f/a. They got better offers. Brewer and Fernandez were traded for nothing. Head coach is in on trades.

dude1394 · 04-21-2013, 11:32 AM

Sheesh...such selective opinions. So Carlisle is not responsible for letting those guys leave in free agency when the plan was to get rid of them all, but he is for brewer because it "proves" your point about how he's crap on developing players. Even though he started him in 2/13 games when he showed up.

But because brewer was also let go for cap room, just like Tyson, etc. it's on Carlisle. When it proves your point it's on Carlisle, but when it doesn't he's not involved.

Carlisle is involved, but he doesn't veto moves when it comes to the dollars. This was an agreed upon plan by the mbt including Carlisle...it has nothing to do with developing or not developing players.

DGM · 04-21-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Sheesh...such selective opinions. So Carlisle is not responsible for letting those guys leave in free agency when the plan was to get rid of them all, but he is for brewer because it "proves" your point about how he's crap on developing players. Even though he started him in 2/13 games when he showed up.

But because brewer was also let go for cap room, just like Tyson, etc. it's on Carlisle. When it proves your point it's on Carlisle, but when it doesn't he's not involved.

Carlisle is involved, but he doesn't veto moves when it comes to the dollars. This was an agreed upon plan by the mbt including Carlisle...it has nothing to do with developing or not developing players.

He started Brewer only due to injuries and benched him after he saved his ass in the playoffs. Rick is a good coach but he has handled unproven players badly. If you aren't proven when you come here Rick won't do much to develope you. Just keep your eyes on Roddy after he leaves. It will be another Brewer situation.

NoTnERb · 04-21-2013, 02:29 PM

I think the collective IQ of the forum went down along with the team's BB IQ...

dude1394 · 04-21-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NoTnERb

I think the collective IQ of the forum went down along with the team's BB IQ...

For real

dude1394 · 04-21-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM

He started Brewer only due to injuries and benched him after he saved his ass in the playoffs. Rick is a good coach but he has handled unproven players badly. If you aren't proven when you come here Rick won't do much to develope you. Just keep your eyes on Roddy after he leaves. It will be another Brewer situation.

Quoted for later proof that those red boxes are well-Earned

EricaLubarsky · 04-21-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NoTnERb

I think the collective IQ of the forum went down along with the team's BB IQ...

Are we down to Josh Howard levels yet?

dude1394 · 04-21-2013, 03:10 PM

Knicks don't seem to be cohesive enough to take Miami for sure. Jkiddo was directing traffic all fourth quarter and they were still pretty knuckle headed offensively. Way too little ball movement IMO.

But damn, I miss that jkiddo.

sefant77 · 04-21-2013, 03:17 PM

Brewer 2013 >>> Brewer 2011.

Specially creating his shot, knocking down jumper etc

oilfieldtrash · 04-21-2013, 03:47 PM

Donnie needs to be shipped out if he can't get it done this offseason. Dirk has been covering up his horrible drafting, inability to resign free agents, and just letting too many talented guys just walk for nothing.

BGMaverick9 · 04-21-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM

He started Brewer only due to injuries and benched him after he saved his ass in the playoffs. Rick is a good coach but he has handled unproven players badly. If you aren't proven when you come here Rick won't do much to develope you. Just keep your eyes on Roddy after he leaves. It will be another Brewer situation.

You don't know the amount of time he spent with Brewer before and after practice.

I guess you don't know the amount of time he spent with Ian, either.

Too bad Jae Crowder didn't see a lot of time on the floor this year....

Roddy performing on another team isn't going to be an indictment on the feet of Carlisle, but good try.

Murphy3 · 04-21-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Are we down to Josh Howard levels yet?

You've been there for years..

DGM · 04-21-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

You don't know the amount of time he spent with Brewer before and after practice.

I guess you don't know the amount of time he spent with Ian, either.

Too bad Jae Crowder didn't see a lot of time on the floor this year....

Roddy performing on another team isn't going to be an indictment on the feet of Carlisle, but good try.

Good performance by players is always due to RC. Being benched is the players fault. I see how it works.

Melonhead · 04-21-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Brewer was sacrificed for the fa pipe dream. It was a mistake. It has nothing to do with Carlisle. Carlisle played him plenty, in important moments.

Yep.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-21-2013, 05:47 PM

Brewer has had a nice season, but some of you are going way overboard on the kid. He is a sub par rebounder and can't hit jump shots or shoot the three really. Love his energy and defense but c'mon meow.

BGMaverick9 · 04-21-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM

Good performance by players is always due to RC. Being benched is the players fault. I see how it works.

Catch up.

Melonhead · 04-21-2013, 07:55 PM

Jennings is ballin out right now. Its gonna take a real nice contract to get him in Dallas. One i dont think Cuban would offer

grndmstr_c · 04-21-2013, 08:00 PM

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Jennings is ballin out right now. Its gonna take a real nice contract to get him in Dallas. One i dont think Cuban should offer

Fixed.

LonghornDub · 04-21-2013, 08:17 PM

Shipping out Brewer that way was a mistake. Of course, he's nowhere near the best player the Mavs shipped out (or didn't bring back), but his value and upside per dollar was really high.

But to say that had anything to do with RC is quite odd. RC handled Brewer fine.

Melonhead · 04-21-2013, 08:22 PM

I was just more upset how easily we let him go. I understand everything surrounding the situation. RC had nothing to do with it and did fine in managing him the brief period he was here

41creepingdeath · 04-21-2013, 10:11 PM

Dennis Schröder with 18 points (5-10 FG, 7-10FT), 2 rebounds and 6 assists in the World Team's win over Team USA.

EricaLubarsky · 04-21-2013, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Jennings is ballin out right now. Its gonna take a real nice contract to get him in Dallas. One i dont think Cuban would offer

You mean 26pts on 40% shooting with 2 assists and 3 turnovers?

Budapest Maverick · 04-22-2013, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Brewer 2013 >>> Brewer 2011.

Specially creating his shot, knocking down jumper etc

And yet he's still nothing special, as a basketball player. It's not like we gave away a star, letting go Brewer would matter if we would have a championship level roster, which we don't, in fact we aren't very close to it, and not because we don't have a player like Corey.

SMC0007 · 04-22-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

You mean 26pts on 40% shooting with 2 assists and 3 turnovers?

Who is he going to assist? Other than Ellis, no one else can really play.

grndmstr_c · 04-22-2013, 10:36 AM

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Who is he going to assist? Other than Ellis, no one else can really play.

Sanders can score in close just fine if he's set up, and Dunleavy, Ilyasova and Redick are all excellent shooters. He's not short of finishers. On the flip side, those guys aren't used to having defenses close out on them the way a focused Miami squad can. Nonetheless, the Jennings that's worth pining as a high-dollar RFA is one who can do more than he did yesterday to create opportunities for his teammates.

Melonhead · 04-22-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

You mean 26pts on 40% shooting with 2 assists and 3 turnovers?

When I wrote that, it was halftime 18 pts on 50% shooting. And he had just singlehandedly kept the Bucks alive (at the time). I didnt watch the second half, but im assuming he didnt keep it up based on final score.

oilfieldtrash · 04-22-2013, 11:39 AM

I like Jeff Teague. Although Atl isn't going to let him get away.

Melonhead · 04-22-2013, 02:15 PM

Throw the book at Gortat, and I still like Ellis/Jarret Jack. Go from there.

41creepingdeath · 04-22-2013, 02:17 PM

“The Heat will be definitely an option,’’ Dalembert told FOX Sports Florida before his Bucks lost to the Heat 110-87 in Game 1 of an Eastern Conference first-round series Sunday night at AmericanAirlines Arena. “It’s up to them and seeing what’s going to be out there. But at this point you want to be with a contending team. You don’t want to go backwards, so you want to chase that promised land.’

Boo that man.. Boo!

grndmstr_c · 04-22-2013, 02:21 PM

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“The Heat will be definitely an option,’’ Dalembert told FOX Sports Florida before his Bucks lost to the Heat 110-87 in Game 1 of an Eastern Conference first-round series Sunday night at AmericanAirlines Arena. “It’s up to them and seeing what’s going to be out there. But at this point you want to be with a contending team. You don’t want to go backwards, so you want to chase that promised land.’

Boo that man.. Boo!

No doubt.

Bayliss · 04-22-2013, 04:20 PM

Dalembert has the role for the Mavs with his ability to defend the paint and rebound. But his knuckleheadedness would be a huge detriment to the team. I would rather the Mavs pass on him.

SMC0007 · 04-22-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 41creepingdeath

“The Heat will be definitely an option,’’ Dalembert told FOX Sports Florida before his Bucks lost to the Heat 110-87 in Game 1 of an Eastern Conference first-round series Sunday night at AmericanAirlines Arena. “It’s up to them and seeing what’s going to be out there. But at this point you want to be with a contending team. You don’t want to go backwards, so you want to chase that promised land.’

Boo that man.. Boo!

Is it a surprise that he told a Florida network interviewer that the Heat are an option?