01-23-2021, 09:48 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
No excuses about missing players because the Rockets have a bunch of no name guys out here killing the Mavs defense and they played last night in Detroit
This is just poor lazy defense
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I mean, yeah, but WE just have a bunch of no name guys out there too, except for Luka.
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01-23-2021, 09:48 PM
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#42
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Ugh, it IS just one of those nights. We move heaven and earth just to get a couple of free throws and then they come right back and get a three.
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I think the legs are pretty dead and such things you see also at the defensive end.
B2B, 5th in seven days, down four guys the entire time and tonight also KP
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01-23-2021, 09:49 PM
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#43
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Green hit a three!!!!! FINALLY!!!
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01-23-2021, 09:50 PM
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#44
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Thj is terrible tonight.
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01-23-2021, 09:50 PM
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#45
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I hope Rick leaves Green and Iwundo on the floor together just to see if they can help slow down Houston.
I just hate seeing our midgets trying to play defense all at the same time.
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01-23-2021, 09:51 PM
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#46
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Seriously though, WHEN do we get Richardson, DFS and Kleber back?
Last edited by Thespiralgoeson; 01-23-2021 at 09:51 PM.
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01-23-2021, 09:52 PM
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#47
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Thank you Harper
Houston is missing Wood and Oladipo no excuses for Dallas
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01-23-2021, 09:53 PM
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#48
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Honestly a new player won’t make us better at this point in games like this. Just came in listless and then playing catch-up all game until we’re too tired to get over the hump. It’s an energy issue.
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01-23-2021, 09:53 PM
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#49
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STOP
GIVING
UP
OPEN
THREES
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01-23-2021, 09:55 PM
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9-19 rebounding
Without our 2nd, 4th, and 5th best rebounders (KP, Kleber, and DFS) we struggle to rebound
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01-23-2021, 09:55 PM
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#51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
Thank you Harper
Houston is missing Wood and Oladipo no excuses for Dallas
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I know Houston is missing guys too, but my point is, BOTH teams just have a bunch of bench warmers out there.
If you want to say that their scrubs are playing better than our scrubs, I mean, that's definitely true. BUT, we are still missing four starters. I don't think we can take much of anything away from this, except our scrubs are indeed scrubs.
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01-23-2021, 09:56 PM
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#52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
Thank you Harper
Houston is missing Wood and Oladipo no excuses for Dallas
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I never listen to Harper because he blabbers just crap.
And of course its an excuse if its Wood/Ola vs KP/Josh/Kleber/DFS/Powell. Its simple maths but of course Harper isnt able to do simple maths.
Add to it that we play shorthanded since freaking two weeks.
Last edited by sefant77; 01-23-2021 at 09:56 PM.
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01-23-2021, 09:56 PM
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If you can’t rebound, you can’t win a game
And we can’t rebound
We need our guys back
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01-23-2021, 09:57 PM
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Okay, that last three was the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm turning this shit off. Good night everyone.
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01-23-2021, 09:59 PM
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#55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
STOP
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OPEN
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Unless it's Boogie.
Two guys close out on Boogie to leave Gordon open.
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01-23-2021, 09:59 PM
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#56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Ugh, it IS just one of those nights. We move heaven and earth just to get a couple of free throws and then they come right back and get a three.
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These “one of those nights” are becoming common. Houston has guys I’ve never watched play blow by the Mavs defense. No excuse.
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01-23-2021, 10:02 PM
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So Martin is Lebron now and can just wreck anyone?
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01-23-2021, 10:02 PM
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It’s almost like we’re losing based on the inability to rebound because we’re without our 2nd, 4th, and 5th best rebounder and four of our best five defenders
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01-23-2021, 10:04 PM
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Since we were down 15 in the first, we’ve actually made up a point. Doesn’t feel like it and we’re going to have to actually outscore then to win but at least we’re treading by water
The hard part is the rebounding. It’s 100% easier for them with extra points and ability to run into an unset defense and they have more shots.
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01-23-2021, 10:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
I never listen to Harper because he blabbers just crap.
And of course its an excuse if its Wood/Ola vs KP/Josh/Kleber/DFS/Powell. Its simple maths but of course Harper isnt able of simple maths.
Add to it that we play shorthanded since freaking two weeks.
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The problem is those are their two best players offensively.
That's two 20 point scorer's they are missing but they are still giving some effort on defense if you watch them hustle like Martin Jr for example.
The Mavs issue is we got poor defenders giving up wide open 3's not from fatigue but from lack of hustle.
But when you play with 3 or 4 non defenders like Burke, Brunson and THJ and they don't make shots it just looks terrible.
Notice how on offense all 3 of them seem to move fast and then on D they are all of sudden slow.
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01-23-2021, 10:07 PM
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Seems like we should be down by 25 the way we are playing and the way they are playing.
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01-23-2021, 10:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
The problem is those are their two best players offensively.
That's two 20 point scorer's they are missing but they are still giving some effort on defense if you watch them hustle like Martin Jr for example.
The Mavs issue is we got poor defenders giving up wide open 3's not from fatigue but from lack of hustle.
But when you play with 3 or 4 non defenders like Burke, Brunson and THJ and they don't make shots it just looks terrible.
Notice how on offense all 3 of them seem to move fast and then on D they are all of sudden slow.
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Oh wait, we are missing our four best defender (by far)...oh what a surprise in addtion to the dead legs playing 5 in 7 days shorthanded
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01-23-2021, 10:09 PM
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look at that damn defense by THJ
Gordon just blew right by him
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01-23-2021, 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
It’s almost like we’re losing based on the inability to rebound because we’re without our 2nd, 4th, and 5th best rebounder and four of our best five defenders
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pssst, dont tell it to Dallas41 since he still thinks there are no excuses
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01-23-2021, 10:11 PM
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Need a good run to start the 3rd and we'll be fine.
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01-23-2021, 10:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Oh wait, we are missing our four best defender (by far)...oh what a surprise in addtion to the dead legs playing 5 in 7 days shorthanded
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seriously so you need a top defender to stop sterling brown from blowing by you?
Some of these players on houston offense doesn't require top defenders on them. It just requires effort and THJ for example has been terrible looking flat footed on everyone he defends and they just blows by him.
I realize how important DFS, Kleber and Richardson are defensively but still there is no excuse for not closing out on shooters or just not moving your feet vs guys who usually don't even put the ball on the floor to drive.
Last edited by Dallas41; 01-23-2021 at 10:24 PM.
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01-23-2021, 10:27 PM
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#67
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good defense by Iwundo
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01-23-2021, 10:32 PM
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Absolutely delicious collapse
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01-23-2021, 10:32 PM
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#69
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Thank you Rick for putting in Wes and Boban much better matchups on defense
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01-23-2021, 10:33 PM
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Out rebounded by 9 and 42%-25% 3pt and we're only down 3.
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01-23-2021, 10:35 PM
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Wes is so skilled but shooting is not one of his strengths
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01-23-2021, 10:36 PM
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We infected the Rockets with our inability to hit FTs
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01-23-2021, 10:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Wes is so skilled but shooting is not one of his strengths
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yeah but i like his hustle on defense and energy
he disrupts teams and sometimes if you can't make shots you need to get stops until your offense picks up
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01-23-2021, 10:38 PM
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#74
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Hardaway is going to kill us if he keeps this up.
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01-23-2021, 10:38 PM
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And just like that we’re back out of it
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01-23-2021, 10:40 PM
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#76
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2nd of a BTB with a limited roster....will we have enough left in the tank?
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01-23-2021, 10:40 PM
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#77
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Not the right night for Hardaway to suck.
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01-23-2021, 10:42 PM
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#78
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I must admit this is why I wanted the Mavs to give Boogie a shot this year because he was really cheap.
He could have really helped us this year
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01-23-2021, 10:42 PM
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Cousins wrecking us
We need Kleber and KP
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01-23-2021, 10:43 PM
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This is becoming brutal to watch.
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