LaMarcus Aldridge - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

MFFL · 04-24-2015, 02:18 PM

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nb...n-next-in-okc/

Also Rondo talk but I'm tired of it

With recent reports that his teammates are worried he'll leave as a free agent and that the Spurs and Mavericks believe they have a chance, a person with knowledge of LaMarcus Aldridge's free-agent strategy told CBSSports.com that all options remain on the table -- including parting ways with the Blazers . The person, who has been briefed on Aldridge's plan, said he "wouldn't be surprised" if the four-time All-Star and Dallas native were lured to his native Texas when he hits the unrestricted market on July 1.

Last July, Aldridge said he planned to sign the five-year, $108 million max contract the Blazers can offer him when he hits the free-agent market, saying at the time he wants to be "the best Blazer ever" and adding that signing a five-year deal with Portland -- one more year than other teams can offer, and with bigger raises -- "is the best decision on my part."

But the NBA's $24 billion broadcast and digital rights agreement that hits the system in 2016 has changed the equation for this summer's top-notch free agents. Does a player like Aldridge commit to a five-year deal under the current economics, or do a shorter deal with a player option so he can really take advantage of the TV windfall? NBA executives are projecting that the salary cap will jump from $67.1 million in 2015-16 to $89 million in '16-'17 and a whopping $108 million in '17-'18. A short deal with an opt-out in either '16 or '17, coupled with the opportunity to cash in on the massive spike in the cap, would more than cushion the blow of leaving future money on the table by leaving town as a free agent.

The Lakers and Knicks, flush with cap space in glamour markets, also are expected to heavily pursue Aldridge. The Blazers trail the Grizzlies 2-0 in their first-round series, which shifts to Portland for Game 3 on Saturday.

ocelot_ark · 04-24-2015, 02:56 PM

Yes please.

Underdog · 04-24-2015, 03:36 PM

All-in.

I mean, it's not like Portland has more to offer him in the long-term than Dallas does -- the only thing they do consistently every year is underachieve. At least we have the excuse of an aging superstar -- what's their excuse? You know Mark would surround LA with the talent he needs to compete for a ring (which, given his skill set, isn't all that different than building around Dirk). Not to mention that combination of Aldridge/Parsons/Carlisle/Cuban should be enough to lure FAs in 2016.

EricaLubarsky · 04-24-2015, 03:39 PM

He would be an undeniable coup and could continue our winning ways with Dirk. I would not mind Dirk off the bench and teaching LA some pointers in practice.

MFFL · 04-24-2015, 04:05 PM

Chuck Cooperstein has poo-pooed the idea saying that Aldridge wouldn't come to either the Mavs or Spurs because Aldridge wouldn't want to follow a legend

tsar · 04-24-2015, 04:49 PM

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Chuck Cooperstein has poo-pooed the idea saying that Aldridge wouldn't come to either the Mavs or Spurs because Aldridge wouldn't want to follow a legend

How did he get his sources? Is there a quote of this anywhere?

MFFL · 04-24-2015, 04:52 PM

His Twitter feed. I think it's personal speculation on Cooperstein

Wang Zhi Zhi · 04-24-2015, 05:07 PM

What's his salary next year on a max? $21MM? That, plus Dirk's 8.5, is a lot to spend on one position. With Parsons, Felton, Harris (~23MM), and league mins and cap holds, the roster is pretty much done there isnt it?

sefant77 · 04-24-2015, 10:28 PM

If he leaves Portland he would join Parker, Leonard, Splitter and Green in SA

Underdog · 04-24-2015, 10:31 PM

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If he leaves Portland he would join Parker, Leonard, Splitter and Green in SA

Except Leonard and Green are FAs (Duncan and Manu too), so there's not enough money to bring those guys back and still get Aldridge.

sefant77 · 04-24-2015, 10:41 PM

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Except Leonard and Green are FAs (Duncan and Manu too), so there's not enough money to bring those guys back and still get Aldridge.

Leonard and Green have cap holds of 7.5m each. Thats exactly the reason why the Spurs didnt give Leonard a max extension during the season, because they wanrt to blow the cap first and max him then out.

Splitter 8
Diaw 7
Green cap hold 7.5
leonard cap hold 7.5
Mills/Anderson 5
LMA max 21
other cap holds like 4m

there you go. Still enough cap after the cap holds to max out LMA (or Gasol). Gino retires and if Duncan wanna play another year he takes the miniMLE because he would play for another ring and not the money

Subtuppel · 04-25-2015, 02:30 AM

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Except Leonard and Green are FAs (Duncan and Manu too), so there's not enough money to bring those guys back and still get Aldridge.

I would not be surprised if SA do not even need him because Duncan plays another season. He may play some minutes less than in his prime but as a 40-year-old he is still better than anyone else in the league at his position.

Melonhead · 04-25-2015, 09:36 AM

Are we pipe dreaming again?

tap2390 · 04-25-2015, 12:05 PM

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Are we pipe dreaming again?

Yes. Unless Parsons, Chandler, and the chance to learn from Dirk are enough for LMA. Don't see why he'd pick us over playing with Lillard & Batum in Portlandor Kawhi in SA.

EricaLubarsky · 04-25-2015, 12:23 PM

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Are we pipe dreaming again?

Yes.

Now keep your voice down. Don't wake us up.

MFFL · 04-25-2015, 01:15 PM

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Are we pipe dreaming again?

Just because we came in second on the Howard decision doesn't mean we weren't considered

I doubt Aldridge resigns with Portland which means SOMEONE will get him - why not us?

Underdog · 04-25-2015, 01:18 PM

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Are we pipe dreaming again?

That depends on how you're reading this thread -- nobody is saying we will get him, but we should definitely go after him.

spreedom · 04-25-2015, 05:27 PM

I can't understand, for the life of me, why Aldridge wouldn't want to go to San Antonio.

MFFL · 04-25-2015, 06:41 PM

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I can't understand, for the life of me, why Aldridge wouldn't want to go to San Antonio.

One of the points that alridge is supposedly unhappy about is the size of the Portland market. San Antonio is even smaller

Plus pop has said he's retiring soon (same day as Duncan) and there is no guarantee his successor will be as good

sike · 04-25-2015, 07:58 PM

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Plus pop has said he's retiring soon (same day as Duncan) and there is no guarantee his successor will be as good

Actually, I feel its a pretty safe bet that Pops' replacement WON'T be as good.

justvisitingsixerfan · 04-25-2015, 08:50 PM

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One of the points that alridge is supposedly unhappy about is the size of the Portland market. San Antonio is even smaller

Plus pop has said he's retiring soon (same day as Duncan) and there is no guarantee his successor will be as good

Dude...San Antonio is a bigger market then Dallas, with a bigger population. And it is 3 times the sizef Portland. It is not even remotely a small market city.

MFFL · 04-25-2015, 08:57 PM

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Dude...San Antonio is a bigger market then Dallas, with a bigger population. And it is 3 times the sizef Portland. It is not even remotely a small market city.

Dude. The Dallas metro area is #8 in country. San Antonio is 31st

Nobody counts city size

justvisitingsixerfan · 04-25-2015, 09:09 PM

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Dude. The Dallas metro area is #8 in country. San Antonio is 31st

Nobody counts city size

No, nobody counts the general METRO area size. That is NOT population, and POPULATION is what goes to games. I mean you want METRO size...Baker, CA would be the largest NBA market.

FreshJive · 04-26-2015, 12:52 AM

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Dude. The Dallas metro area is #8 in country. San Antonio is 31st

Nobody counts city size

What is your source for 8th? I've seen 4th and 5th.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...tistical_Areas

Sixersfan, you could add the populations of San Antonio and Austin, and it wouldn't come close to the sizes of Dallas or Houston.

Also, according to this. San Antonio and Portland have the same populations.

spreedom · 04-26-2015, 08:32 AM

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One of the points that alridge is supposedly unhappy about is the size of the Portland market. San Antonio is even smaller

Plus pop has said he's retiring soon (same day as Duncan) and there is no guarantee his successor will be as good

Honestly, if things like market size are strongly going to influence where he plays, I'm not that interested in Aldridge. Let him waste his prime in New York or LA.

jamaljasonandjimmy · 04-25-2015, 09:46 PM

Could we get Kawhi Leonard?

sefant77 · 04-26-2015, 11:14 AM

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Could we get Kawhi Leonard?

You mean the greek Kawhi named Giannis? Yeah we basically had him allready

Murphy3 · 04-25-2015, 10:06 PM

You're just a bit off sided... Just a bit

FreshJive · 04-26-2015, 01:27 AM

Weird. If you go to the U.S. census links it gives the MSA statistics from my wiki link.

http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/t...xhtml?src=bkmk

For what it's worth the Nielson TV market rankings rank Dallas fifth.

http://www.tvb.org/media/file/Nielse..._DMA_Ranks.pdf

Anyway. Anyone who lives in Texas knows that San Antonio is a tiny city with an enormously overachieving wonder of a basketball team.

MFFL · 04-26-2015, 01:33 AM

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For what it's worth the Nielson TV market rankings rank Dallas fifth.

http://www.tvb.org/media/file/Nielse..._DMA_Ranks.pdf

This is also important. Notice San Antonio is way down there with Salt Lake City and ten slots behind Portland.

The Spurs play in a tiny market and if playing in a larger market is important to Aldridge then it is an advantage for us

FreshJive · 04-26-2015, 01:41 AM

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This is also important. Notice San Antonio is way down there with Salt Lake City and ten slots behind Portland.

The Spurs play in a tiny market and if playing in a larger market is important to Aldridge then it is an advantage for us

Agreed. Except that you kind of have to throw in the Austin Tv numbers, because Austin is a Spurs town. I'm not sure if the Blazers have an equivalent.

fluid.forty.one · 04-26-2015, 07:46 PM

I would love to get LA here. Dirk would be amazing off the bench.

Underdog · 04-27-2015, 07:01 PM

So I'm reading that San Antonio is a possible destination for Aldridge, but their ability to land him hinges on whether or not Timmy and Manu retire... And I've also read that Pop plans to retire if Duncan retires. So just how attractive are the Spurs without Pop/Duncan/Manu? I mean, Leonard and Parker are great players, but there's going to be a ton of question marks surrounding that franchise if their legendary coach steps down.

sefant77 · 04-27-2015, 07:11 PM

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S And I've also read that Pop plans to retire if Duncan retires.

Thats old...he signed last summer a multiyear extension....knowing Duncan wont play several years

Give him Parker/Green/Leonard/LMA/Splitter as core and i dont see why he would retire...

Underdog · 04-27-2015, 07:18 PM

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Thats old...he signed last summer a multiyear extension....knowing Duncan wont play several years

Give him Parker/Green/Leonard/LMA/Splitter as core and i dont see why he would retire...

According to Pop:

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If anything, Popovich said, he could wind up walking away before Duncan. Popovich signed a five-year contract extension last summer, but admitted that the length was a product of owner Peter Holt's desires more than it was his own.

"It's a five-year contract, but the chances of staying for five years I don't think are very good," Popovich said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...onio/22814677/

#41 Shoot em up · 04-27-2015, 09:24 PM

Pop is walking away with Duncan. I think Aldridge will look long and hard at SA and Dallas...... Pretty much Manu and Duncan have to retire or play for the minimum in order for this thing to work in SA. Sounds very un Spurs like to spend $20 million on a free agent signing, a franchise who preached sacrifice to Duncan, Manu, and Parker. Seems weird, I think Lamarcus wants to come home personally

butchmcrae · 04-28-2015, 10:02 AM

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Pop is walking away with Duncan. I think Aldridge will look long and hard at SA and Dallas...... Pretty much Manu and Duncan have to retire or play for the minimum in order for this thing to work in SA. Sounds very un Spurs like to spend $20 million on a free agent signing, a franchise who preached sacrifice to Duncan, Manu, and Parker. Seems weird, I think Lamarcus wants to come home personally

Aldridge will liking be looking hard at Dallas, San Antonio and Houston. All three teams will be able to make enough room to offer him a max or near max contract.

Underdog · 04-28-2015, 10:14 AM

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Aldridge will liking be looking hard at Dallas, San Antonio and Houston. All three teams will be able to make enough room to offer him a max or near max contract.

Houston is damn near maxed-out next season with Howard/Harden/Ariza alone taking up $46m of a $67m cap -- they're not in the LMA race at all.

butchmcrae · 04-28-2015, 10:44 AM

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Houston is damn near maxed-out next season with Howard/Harden/Ariza alone taking up $46m of a $67m cap -- they're not in the LMA race at all.

You are wrong about that. Houston does have about $46MM tied up in Harden/Howard/Ariza but the rest of the players on their roster are either expiring or on rookie level deals. All they really have to do is get rid of Ariza to make the room. Do you think the Blazers would turn down a package with some combination of Pelicans pick/DMo/Capela/Jones if they know Aldridge is walking? Would a team take Ariza/DMo/Pelicans pick to let the Rockets dump Ariza?

Go take a listen to the Bill Don't Lie podcast with Simmons and Lowe from this Monday. They talk about Houston as players for LMA and they discuss how Houston can get the space.

MFFL · 04-28-2015, 12:19 PM

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Do you think the Blazers would turn down a package with some combination of Pelicans pick/DMo/Capela/Jones if they know Aldridge is walking?

Houston fans are so clueless.

The team doesn't decide whether a player is sign and traded only the player. And since there is no advantage to sign and trade for the player anymore (the fifth year is for the original team only) it probably won't happen very often anymore.

You got Howard without a sign and trade - forget why?