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EricaLubarsky · 06-15-2017, 03:00 PM

Lottery pick, and Yogi, Noel, and maybe other core guys. Could be an interesting time.

Underdog · 06-15-2017, 03:17 PM

I knew Ferrell, Finney-Smith, Hammons, and Brussino were going to be on the team, but Noel is news to me... Sounds like he's pretty much committed to signing with Dallas this summer.

BPo001 · 06-15-2017, 06:01 PM

Surprised to see Noel as well. Bodes well for him wanting to stay in dallas and it will be good for him to get more familiar with our system.

EricaLubarsky · 06-15-2017, 08:24 PM

I might have misspoken on Noel. I thought I read that Noel wanted to. Remarked then that it was a good sign about both his work ethic and investment. Can't find the article now.

spreedom · 06-15-2017, 08:39 PM

Summer League starts right around free agency, right? I would think he'd want his (guaran-damn-teed) contract signed before playing.

EricaLubarsky · 06-15-2017, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

Summer League starts right around free agency, right? I would think he'd want his (guaran-damn-teed) contract signed before playing.

June 22 - Draft

July 1 - we can talk with free agents (although we can talk with Noel since he's currently under contract until July 6)

July 6 - he can sign a new contract (not extension)

July 7 - Summer League begins

July 8 - our first summer league game

That two weeks starting next Thursday is going to be nuts.

rimrocker · 06-16-2017, 02:21 PM

Assuming Brussino, DFS, Hammons and Uthoff will be playing as well.
I'm probably being too optimistic but I have a feeling Uthoff might actually turn into a decent player.

Bryan_Wilson · 06-23-2017, 09:51 AM

https://twitter.com/mmartinbrown/sta...45013448122369

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Congrats to our own @StevenSpieth - he found out last night he'll be playing w his hometown Dallas Mavericks in the Orlando Summer League!

Didn't even know Jordan had a brother.

fwiw-
http://web.draftexpress.com/profile/...-Spieth-78053/

SMC0007 · 06-23-2017, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Assuming Brussino, DFS, Hammons and Uthoff will be playing as well.
I'm probably being too optimistic but I have a feeling Uthoff might actually turn into a decent player.

I don't think it's a stretch to say decent. I agree.

I'm hoping DFS keeps improving and takes a nice step this coming season. That would help a ton.

saclare · 06-23-2017, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

https://twitter.com/mmartinbrown/sta...45013448122369

Didn't even know Jordan had a brother.

fwiw-
http://web.draftexpress.com/profile/...-Spieth-78053/

Hell of a nice kid. Played against him once and he was maybe going half speed. Smooth jumper is really all I got to see. We kept it close and he turned it on a little bit to seal the deal. That's all I got lol

Underdog · 06-23-2017, 05:07 PM

@IAmDPick: Source: Undrafted Belgium 6-11 center Ismael Bako agreed to Summer League deal with the Dallas Mavericks.

EricaLubarsky · 06-23-2017, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@IAmDPick: Source: Undrafted Belgium 6-11 center Ismael Bako agreed to Summer League deal with the Dallas Mavericks.

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6'10 Belgian center Ismael Bako warrants mention here for his play today. Scoring 11 points while pulling down 7 rebounds and blocking 4 shots in the last game of the day against the USA Select Team, Bako was a force inside. An impressive run-jump athlete who can protect the rim with his 7'2.5 wingspan and 9'3 1/2 standing reach, Bako lacks much in the way of skill and feel, but his energy, lob catching, and ability to switch defensively give him some upside. Seeing significant rotation minutes for the first time this season for Leuven in the Belgian First Division, Bako averaged 8 points and 4.1 rebounds over 20.1 minutes per game. Automatically eligible for the 2017 NBA draft as a 1995-born prospect, Bako did himself quite a few favors with his play today. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ismael-Bako-52659/

©DraftExpress

EricaLubarsky · 06-23-2017, 06:13 PM

Orlando Summer League Schedule July 1-6
(Mostly seems like coaching training. Rarely do we have anyone worth watching.

7/1 3:00 p.m. New York @ Dallas
7/3 3:00 p.m. Orlando @ Dallas
7/4 3:00 p.m. Indiana @ Dallas
7/5 1:00 p.m. Dallas @ OKC
7/6 - TBA

Melonhead · 06-23-2017, 06:15 PM

Live 10 min away from Thomas and Mack and ill be out of town for the entire Summer League

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 09:29 AM

@DougHaller: ASU guard Torian Graham has reached an agreement to play for the Dallas Mavericks in the Las Vegas Summer League. https://www.houseofsparky.com/2017/6...er-league-deal

@BBallersPodcast: The NBL presence at the NBA Summer League grows, with Corey Webster landing a spot with the Dallas Mavericks. http://www.nbl.com.au/featured-news/...summer-league/

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-24-2017, 10:04 AM

Damn, the Knicks fans some salty ass mofos. They are unnecessarily trashing Smith Jr like nobody's business and hoping for a summer league slaughter of Smith? Wow.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...f=24&t=1582814

And I saw a user on there Robillionaire....wasn't he a poster on here at some point?

sefant77 · 06-24-2017, 10:14 AM

What u expect from the Knicks fanbase?

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

And I saw a user on there Robillionaire....wasn't he a poster on here at some point?

You're thinking of Robillion, who posted the other day during the draft -- he lives in San Fran, the guy from the Knicks forum lives in NYC... Different people.

Also, Knicks fans are delusional -- they're gonna absolutely HATE waiting 3-4 years for Frank to develop (if he ever does).

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-24-2017, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

You're thinking of Robillion, who posted the other day during the draft -- he lives in San Fran, the guy from the Knicks forum lives in NYC... Different people.

Also, Knicks fans are delusional -- they're gonna absolutely HATE waiting 3-4 years for Frank to develop (if he ever does).

Yeah I thought the name was off a bit but wasn't sure.

But the hate makes no sense. The Mavs didn't sign some FA they were after or anything. They just drafted a guy after their pick. Just makes 0 sense to trash a guy like that for no reason. Nobody on here is trashing Frank because there is no reason to. At all.

In fact, I read an article where DSJ really liked the idea of playing for the Knicks. Karma is a bitch.

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Yeah I thought the name was off a bit but wasn't sure.

But the hate makes no sense. The Mavs didn't sign some FA they were after or anything. They just drafted a guy after their pick. Just makes 0 sense to trash a guy like that for no reason. Nobody on here is trashing Frank because there is no reason to. At all.

In fact, I read an article where DSJ really liked the idea of playing for the Knicks. Karma is a bitch.

Knicks fans are just insecure because their shitty franchise is on the verge of becoming much, much worse.

Seriously, look at the way they're behaving over a possible SUMMER LEAGUE matchup... It's pathetic.

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 01:15 PM

@ShamsCharania: Sources: Undrafted Baylor forward Johnathan Motley has agreed to a two-way NBA contract with the Dallas Mavericks

[note: 2-way contract means he's signed on for the D-League, with an option to extend through the season]

BPo001 · 06-24-2017, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@ShamsCharania: Sources: Undrafted Baylor forward Johnathan Motley has agreed to a two-way NBA contract with the Dallas Mavericks

[note: 2-way contract means he's signed on for the D-League, with an option to extend through the season]

Nice. I was reading up on him the other day. Sounds like a solid prospect with some tools to work with.

Bryan_Wilson · 06-24-2017, 02:38 PM

Didn't even know about 2 way contracts till you posted that, they are new to this CBA. So essentially it gives us a 16th and 17th roster spot that in a pinch when needed we can sort of "call up" the player and then send him back as needed. And these players contracts cannot be purchased by other teams, so for Motley if he lights it up with the Legends, for example, no team can just purchase his contract and bring him up like with other d league signings. We can do this for a total of 45 days, once he reaches 45 days spent with the NBA club he must be signed to a NBA roster or released. Until the 45 days have been met he is safe and secure as a Dallas Maverick.

At least that is how I understood it. This would have been great for some of those high upside guys that need time like Ndour and stuff. And I think undrafted free agency and the summer league process is now that much more important with contracts like these.

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Didn't even know about 2 way contracts till you posted that, they are new to this CBA. So essentially it gives us a 16th and 17th roster spot that in a pinch when needed we can sort of "call up" the player and then send him back as needed. And these players contracts cannot be purchased by other teams, so for Motley if he lights it up with the Legends, for example, no team can just purchase his contract and bring him up like with other d league signings. We can do this for a total of 45 days, once he reaches 45 days spent with the NBA club he must be signed to a NBA roster or released. Until the 45 days have been met he is safe and secure as a Dallas Maverick.

At least that is how I understood it. This would have been great for some of those high upside guys that need time like Ndour and stuff. And I think undrafted free agency and the summer league process is now that much more important with contracts like these.

Yeah, I made that note because I just learned what they are too -- someone asked Shams about it after that tweet and he was kind enough to explain.

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Nice. I was reading up on him the other day. Sounds like a solid prospect with some tools to work with.

@Boweman55: someone who watches college basketball tell me why motley is awesome

@dirkfan87: He was bananas in the tournament. That's all I remember like 6 blocks in the game. Very active.

@kg_veteran: He was the best PF in college basketball and can play either forward spot and small ball C in the pros...for starters.

[god, I wish KG still posted here -- his knowledge is wasted in 140 characters-or-less]

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 02:53 PM

More on Motley:

The Dallas Mavericks got another steal out of the 2017 draft class after signing undrafted forward, Johnathan Motley out of Baylor.

http://thesmokingcuban.com/2017/06/2...nathan-motley/

EricaLubarsky · 06-24-2017, 03:39 PM

I am ridiculously excited for Motley. At one point I remember Finley scouting him for a couple of games. Was afraid that the lack of a second round pick would have let him escape. Glad we have at least an in with him for SL

Bryan_Wilson · 06-24-2017, 03:41 PM

I guess I'll overlook the fact that he's from Houston. I guess he couldn't help that...

Melonhead · 06-24-2017, 04:06 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1V5OefIMJE

Maybe overhyping him but I see him taking all of Powells minutes before All Star break. Physical and likes to go after boards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbVugbTJCuA

EricaLubarsky · 06-24-2017, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1V5OefIMJE

Maybe overhyping him but I see him taking all of Powells minutes before All Star break. Physical and likes to go after boards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbVugbTJCuA

He's on a two-way/development contract. Can't do more than 45 games in NBA, but doesn't count for 15 man roster

BPo001 · 06-24-2017, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

He's on a two-way/development contract. Can't do more than 45 games in NBA, but doesn't count for 15 man roster

By signing a two-way contract with the Dallas Mavericks, Motley will spend the majority of the season with the Texas Legends, but will be able to go back-and-forth to the Mavericks for up to 45 days. This stops any other team from around the league from snatching him up out of the D-League.

rimrocker · 06-24-2017, 06:37 PM

Maybe I'm missing something but JM sounds like an Aminu clone.
Didn't realize the guy has a 7'4" ws and is considered a quick leaper which usually is conducive to great rebounding and defense....Rodman and Marion come to mind as examples of quick leapers.

I'm pretty damn excited about that signing.

dirt_dobber · 06-25-2017, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I am ridiculously excited for Motley. At one point I remember Finley scouting him for a couple of games. Was afraid that the lack of a second round pick would have let him escape. Glad we have at least an in with him for SL

exactly.

Underdog · 06-25-2017, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Maybe I'm missing something but JM sounds like an Aminu clone.
Didn't realize the guy has a 7'4" ws and is considered a quick leaper which usually is conducive to great rebounding and defense....Rodman and Marion come to mind as examples of quick leapers.

I'm pretty damn excited about that signing.

He plays bigger than Aminu.

Bryan_Wilson · 06-25-2017, 08:07 AM

Looks like a lite version of McDyess to me. Substitute some explosion for length. Both good on the offensive glass not great on defensive glass. Both have/had defensive upside. He won't touch McDyess's Denver days imo but his Detroit days? 8-10 points, 7 boards- and half of those being offensive, and being at least sound defensively with some shot blocking upside. From a rotation player if he was that I'd be happy.

EricaLubarsky · 06-26-2017, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

He plays bigger than Aminu.

Bigger/more inside. Not terrible similar in terms of game. Both had decent mid-range game. Both thin and agile with good foot speed. Neither one particularly skilled at shooting the three, but both had/have a decent mid-range jumper.

Wingspan
Aminu - 7'0"
Motley - 7'4"

3pt shooting
Aminu - 17.9%
Motley - 25.8%

Overall 2pt%
Aminu - 45.1%
Motley - 53.7% (but far more interior shots like hooks, layups, and dunks)

Underdog · 06-27-2017, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Didn't even know about 2 way contracts till you posted that, they are new to this CBA. So essentially it gives us a 16th and 17th roster spot that in a pinch when needed we can sort of "call up" the player and then send him back as needed. And these players contracts cannot be purchased by other teams, so for Motley if he lights it up with the Legends, for example, no team can just purchase his contract and bring him up like with other d league signings. We can do this for a total of 45 days, once he reaches 45 days spent with the NBA club he must be signed to a NBA roster or released. Until the 45 days have been met he is safe and secure as a Dallas Maverick.

At least that is how I understood it. This would have been great for some of those high upside guys that need time like Ndour and stuff. And I think undrafted free agency and the summer league process is now that much more important with contracts like these.

Interestingly, cap guru Larry Coon is calling this the "Yogi Ferrell rule" -- I guess he actually had the same deal last year.

SMC0007 · 06-27-2017, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Looks like a lite version of McDyess to me. Substitute some explosion for length. Both good on the offensive glass not great on defensive glass. Both have/had defensive upside. He won't touch McDyess's Denver days imo but his Detroit days? 8-10 points, 7 boards- and half of those being offensive, and being at least sound defensively with some shot blocking upside. From a rotation player if he was that I'd be happy.

Reminds me of Marcus camby-ish

Underdog · 06-28-2017, 02:48 PM

Underdog · 06-28-2017, 02:49 PM

I haven't heard of any of these guys except for Satnam and Motley... Is this basically our D-League team?