Barack Hussein Obama

[dude1394]

Holy Crap....be afraid...be very afraid.

ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

[Silk Smoov]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

ok, if that's the point you were trying to make, Silk, it sure took you a while to get to it. I agree with that.

there are TONS of excuses people will make to hide the fact that they don't want to vote for him cause he's black:

"There's just something about him"
"I just don't like him for some reason"
"He's Muslim" (yes, I can see how using this fallacy is an excuse)
"He doesn't respect the flag"
"He doesn't love America"
"He doesn't put his hand over his heart"
"he was sworn in as a senator with his hand on the Quran"


all the "statements" like that could easily be disproven just by doing 5 seconds worth of research. But people hear something negative and it gives them a reason/excuse for not voting for Obama other than "he's black".

Yes, that has been my point, it was not to say that they were saying blacks are muslims. Fox did a whole special report on this issue and here is a little story on it:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435521,00.html

All your examples are exactly what is going on alot of times here. This is why I called it "Code words". I would rather them just say they dont want to vote for a black president. Hiding behind these type of comments I guess is the best way to hide racism. IMO

Clearly, Obama is NOT a Muslim, and it is even worse for a Christian to do it if they follow the bible. Obama has said many times, he is a Christian. Once he said that, I was satisfied and would question him no longer on the Muslim stuff.

[kappasigma]

if his middle name is hussein, he must be a terrorist. obama is a terrorist name. he's gonna make everyone become muslim. what the heck r we doing people? just because the guy i'm supporting non-stop at every rally has plans to screw me the hardest doesn't mean i'm not gonna vote for him because the terrorist hate our freedom. drill baby drill cause the planet doesn't need natural resources and i only listen to rush & fox news.

[Flacolaco]

Seriously...anyone who calls Obama a muslim is not worth the time of anyone who is smart enough to sign on to this message board. People who say that crap are flat out ignorant, or deliberately spreading lies.




Regarding Dudes post about what Biden said...it's interesting that he said that after both campaigns were given a briefing recently on security and hot spots (also the reason why the campaigns are holding transition planning meetings, to reduce the threat of attack while administrations make the change....the faster the better). Sounds to me like Gaff-a-minute-Biden was told something that he can hardly keep to himself and went spouting off at the mouth about it. I wonder if we're in danger.

[kappasigma]

he's also un-american, cause running for president is the most un-patriotic thing you can do. watch out, iran and korea are gonna bomb us cause barak will let them! quick - to the bomb sheltor

[dude1394]

Obama-Pelosi-Reid-Frank.....What a ticket.

This Should Be News
Jennifer Rubin - 10.24.2008 - 12:24 PM

Barney Frank and Joe Biden are the sodium pentothal of the Democratic Party. Biden told us to be afraid on national security. Frank tells us they Democrats will be coming after us with a big tax increase. Now Frank tells us that he wants a 25% reduction in defense spending.

So let’s get this straight: we are going to see more than $4 trillion in new spending, have a big tax increase, and defund our military — while certain to face international challenges where “it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.” And this is what Democrats are saying?

[Janett_Reno]

And just think dude, you didn't have one republican that could beat Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Frank. What's that tell you?

Remember you telling me how the congress is approved by like 5 or 10% and now more democrats are going to take over more seats in house as they push out even more republicans. What's up with that?

Then it is the senate that i also said the democrats would make gains and i am not sure if it will be a total of 56 to 61 but that's gains and pushing more republicans out of the senate.

In your opinion, if Obama, Biden, Frank, Reid and Pelosi are hated so bad, then can you show me the love the republicans are getting?

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Janett_Reno

And just think dude, you didn't have one republican that could beat Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Frank. What's that tell you?

Remember you telling me how the congress is approved by like 5 or 10% and now more democrats are going to take over more seats in house as they push out even more republicans. What's up with that?

Then it is the senate that i also said the democrats would make gains and i am not sure if it will be a total of 56 to 61 but that's gains and pushing more republicans out of the senate.

In your opinion, if Obama, Biden, Frank, Reid and Pelosi are hated so bad, then can you show me the love the republicans are getting?

I cannot account for stupidity. It floors me that a congress that has a 11% approval rating is about to be given more power. Astonishing..

Obviously this republican is having a tough time, remember my guy was rudy.

[Silk Smoov]

I would not have even voted for Rudy on 09/12/2001, nor the less in November 2008...Just saying..

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Silk Smoov

I would not have even voted for Rudy on 09/12/2001, nor the less in November 2008...Just saying..

It's okay...I'd never vote for a democrat either.

[Silk Smoov]

Originally Posted by dude1394

It's okay...I'd never vote for a democrat either.

I know you would not. So, just keep doing your part on preventing the healing process. Like I said before, we finally got you to admit it...

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Silk Smoov

I know you would not. So, just keep doing your part on preventing the healing process. Like I said before, we finally got you to admit it...

As if you'd vote for a republican...talk about admitting something... yea...

If I have to elect someone who voted to surrender against alqueda, is a socialist, believes in income distribution, practices chicago politics, believes in talking to Iran like a bud, says anything to get elected, is a proponent of infanticid, has a "hate america" pastor and a hate america terrorist bud...then you know where the "healing process" can be put.

[Silk Smoov]

Originally Posted by dude1394

As if you'd vote for a republican...talk about admitting something... yea...

If I have to elect someone who voted to surrender against alqueda, is a socialist, believes in income distribution, practices chicago politics, believes in talking to Iran like a bud, says anything to get elected, is a proponent of infanticid, has a "hate america" pastor and a hate america terrorist bud...then you know where the "healing process" can be put.

Keep telling yourself that, and eventually you MAY believe it.. I have voted as a Republican for Republicans many times, but guess what? I will never vote straight ticket. Sorry to disappoint you on that. By the way I love Chicago, and have nothing against Chicago people or the politics. Just saying.

[Burn this City]

There's so much partisan hackery in this thread...it's like reading a debate between Sean Hannity and Keith Olbermann.

[rabbitproof]

WHASSUPPPPP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogE

[dude1394]

No doubt.

UNITED NATIONS -- There are no "Obama 2008" buttons, banners or T-shirts visible here at U.N. headquarters, but it might be difficult to find a sliver of territory in the United States more enthusiastic over the prospect of the Illinois senator winning the White House.

An informal survey of more than two dozen U.N. staff members and foreign delegates showed that the overwhelming majority would prefer that Sen. Barack Obama win the presidency, saying they think that the Democrat would usher in a new agenda of multilateralism after an era marked by Republican disdain for the world body.

[Mavdog]

Originally Posted by dude1394

No doubt.

gee, a survey of 24 people. now that's a deep look into the issue, let me tell ya!

why would you see enthusiasm by the world's foreign service for obama as a negative? are you saying that everybody outside the usa is wrong in their viewpoint? what if they like and admire the usa and also like and admire obama?

they are not mutually exclusive. in fact they can be very much congruent.

[dude1394]

I think there is no doubt that the UN and europe will love barack as it appears he'll be back there quite a bit asking them what to do.

I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected. All sides should enter into direct talks on behalf of stability in Georgia, and the United States, the United Nations Security Council, and the international community should fully support a peaceful resolution to this crisis.

[Mavdog]

Originally Posted by dude1394

I think there is no doubt that the UN and europe will love barack as it appears he'll be back there quite a bit asking them what to do.

seems that john mccain said pretty much the same thing that obama said:

The government of Georgia has called for a cease-fire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The US should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to assess Georgia’s security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia.

http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainrepo...0-c2f3eb9aa05a

[chumdawg]

An informal survey of more than two dozen U.N. staff members and foreign delegates showed that the overwhelming majority would prefer that Sen. Barack Obama win the presidency, saying they think that the Democrat would usher in a new agenda of multilateralism after an era marked by Republican disdain for the world body.

That sounds pretty good to me.

[dude1394]

Thomas Sowell....
http://article.nationalreview.com/pr...NmMTNhNjJlNTc=

Obama, Con
Obama and the Left.

By Thomas Sowell

Although Senator Barack Obama has been allied with a succession of far-Left individuals over the years, that is only half the story. There are, after all, some honest and decent people on the Left. But these have not been the ones that Obama has been allied with — allied, not merely “associated” with.

ACORN is not just an organization on the left. In addition to the voter frauds that ACORN has been involved in over the years, it is an organization with a history of thuggery, including going to bankers’ homes to harass them and their families, in order to force banks to lend to people with low credit ratings.

Nor was Barack Obama’s relationship with ACORN just a matter of once being their attorney long ago. More recently, he has directed hundreds of thousands of dollars their way. Money talks — and what it says is more important than a politician’s rhetoric in an election year.

Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger are not just people with left-wing opinions. They are reckless demagogues preaching hatred of the lowest sort — and both are recipients of money from Obama.

Bill Ayers is not just “an education professor” who has some left-wing views. He is a confessed and unrepentant terrorist, who more recently has put his message of resentment into the schools — an effort using money from a foundation that Obama headed.

Nor has the help all been one way. During the last debate between John McCain and Barack Obama, Senator McCain mentioned that Sen. Obama’s political campaign began in Bill Ayers’s home. Obama immediately denied it and McCain had no real follow-up.

It was not this year’s political campaign that Obama began in Bill Ayers’s home but an earlier campaign for the Illinois state legislature. Barack Obama can match Bill Clinton in slickness at parsing words to evade accusations.

That is one way to get to the White House. But slickness with words is not going to help a president deal with either domestic economic crises or the looming dangers of a nuclear Iran.

People who think that talking points on this or that problem constitute “the real issues” that we should be talking about, instead of Obama’s track record, ignore a very fundamental fact about representative government.

Representative government exists, in the first place, because we the voters cannot possibly have all the information necessary to make rational decisions on all the things that the government does. We cannot rule through polls or referendums. We must trust someone to represent us, especially as President of the United States.

Once we recognize this basic fact of representative government, then the question of how trustworthy a candidate is becomes a more urgent question than any of the so-called “real issues.”

A candidate who spends two decades promoting polarization and then runs as a healer and uniter, rather than a divider, forfeits all trust by that fact alone.

If Ronald Reagan had attempted to run for president of the United States as a liberal, the media would have been all over him. His support for Barry Goldwater would have been in the headlines and in editorial denunciations across the country.

No way would he have been able to get away with using soothing words to suggest that he and Barry Goldwater were like ships that passed in the night.

If Barack Obama had run as what he has always been, rather than as what he has never been, then we could simply cast our votes based on whether or not we agree with what he has always stood for.

Some people take solace from the fact that Senator Obama has verbally shifted position on some issues, like drilling for oil or gun control, since this is supposed to show that he is “pragmatic” rather than ideological.

But political zig-zags show no such moderation as some seem to assume. Lenin zig-zagged and so did Hitler. Zig-zags may show no more than that someone is playing the public for fools.

Some people who see the fraud in what Obama is saying are amazed that others do not. But Obama knows what con men have long known, that their job is not to convince skeptics but to enable the gullible to continue to believe what they want to believe. He does that very well.

[chumdawg]

ACORN, Ayers...does Sowell not understand what it means to be too little, too late.

[kg_veteran]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

ACORN, Ayers...does Sowell not understand what it means to be too little, too late.

That's a criticism of McCain and his campaign, not the accuracy of Sowell's comments.

[chumdawg]

Originally Posted by kg_veteran

That's a criticism of McCain and his campaign, not the accuracy of Sowell's comments.

What's the difference?

[kg_veteran]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

What's the difference?

Between Sowell and McCain's campaign?

Um, okay.

[chumdawg]

Spell it out dude, if you are able. Don't be scared.

[kg_veteran]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

Spell it out dude, if you are able. Don't be scared.

Speak in English, if you are able.

[chumdawg]

Originally Posted by kg_veteran

Speak in English, if you are able.

Okay, I will try it again for you.

Spell it out dude, if you are able. Don't be scared.

[kg_veteran]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

Okay, I will try it again for you.

Spell it out dude, if you are able. Don't be scared.

Yeah, that still doesn't make any effin' sense. Sorry.

[chumdawg]

I'll try it one more time, and change up the punctuation this time.

Spell it out, dude, if you are able,. Don't be scared.

[fluid.forty.one]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpv...eature=related

[dude1394]

Caught taking illegal contributions again...crap... Funny...he can return one contribution...but can't provide a database of the illegal contributions he's been collecting all campaign. I thought he had this aggressive mechanism of vetting contributions after the fact. I call bull****.

The vetting mechanism is called getting caught.

The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama will refund a small number of contributions made by Obama's aunt, who has been living in the United States illegally, according to a published report.

The woman, Zeituni Onyango, lives in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.

Ah who cares anyway...why should it matter that someone is willingly taking illegal contributions to win the presidency... The ends justifies the means.

[dude1394]

Back by popular request....Thomas Sowell.
http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma.../ego_and_mouth

Ego and Mouth
Thomas Sowell
Friday, October 31, 2008

After the big gamble on subprime mortgages that led to the current financial crisis, is there going to be an even bigger gamble, by putting the fate of a nation in the hands of a man whose only qualifications are ego and mouth?

Barack Obama has the kind of cocksure confidence that can only be achieved by not achieving anything else.

Anyone who has actually had to take responsibility for consequences by running any kind of enterprise-- whether economic or academic, or even just managing a sports team-- is likely at some point to be chastened by either the setbacks brought on by his own mistakes or by seeing his successes followed by negative consequences that he never anticipated.

The kind of self-righteous self-confidence that has become Obama's trademark is usually found in sophomores in Ivy League colleges-- very bright and articulate students, utterly untempered by experience in real world.

The signs of Barack Obama's self-centered immaturity are painfully obvious, though ignored by true believers who have poured their hopes into him, and by the media who just want the symbolism and the ideology that Obama represents.

The triumphal tour of world capitals and photo-op meetings with world leaders by someone who, after all, was still merely a candidate, is just one sign of this self-centered immaturity.

"This is our time!" he proclaimed. And "I will change the world." But ultimately this election is not about him, but about the fate of this nation, at a time of both domestic and international peril, with a major financial crisis still unresolved and a nuclear Iran looming on the horizon.

For someone who has actually accomplished nothing to blithely talk about taking away what has been earned by those who have accomplished something, and give it to whomever he chooses in the name of "spreading the wealth," is the kind of casual arrogance that has led to many economic catastrophes in many countries.

The equally casual ease with which Barack Obama has talked about appointing judges on the basis of their empathies with various segments of the population makes a mockery of the very concept of law.

After this man has wrecked the economy and destroyed constitutional law with his judicial appointments, what can he do for an encore? He can cripple the military and gamble America's future on his ability to sit down with enemy nations and talk them out of causing trouble.

Senator Obama's running mate, Senator Joe Biden, has for years shown the same easy-way-out mindset. Senator Biden has for decades opposed strengthening our military forces. In 1991, Biden urged relying on sanctions to get Saddam Hussein's troops out of Kuwait, instead of military force, despite the demonstrated futility of sanctions as a means of undoing an invasion.

People who think Governor Sarah Palin didn't handle some "gotcha" questions well in a couple of interviews show no interest in how she compares to the Democrats' Vice Presidential candidate, Senator Biden.

Joe Biden is much more of the kind of politician the mainstream media like. Not only is he a liberal's liberal, he answers questions far more glibly than Governor Palin-- grossly inaccurately in many cases, but glibly.

Moreover, this is a long-standing pattern with Biden. When he was running for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination back in 1987, someone in the audience asked him what law school he attended and how well he did.

Flashing his special phony smile, Biden said, "I think I have a much higher IQ than you do." He added, "I went to law school on a full academic scholarship" and "ended up in the top half" of the class.

But Biden did not have a full academic scholarship. Newsweek reported: "He went on a half scholarship based on need. He didn't finish in the 'top half' of his class. He was 76th out of 85."

Add to Obama and Biden House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and you have all the ingredients for a historic meltdown. Let us not forget that the Roman Empire did decline and fall, blighting the lives of millions for centuries.

[purplefrog]

^ very well said. Right on the mark.

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

That sounds pretty good to me.

So does electing a guy that's a big fan of black supremacy... likes aborting children...and is all about terrorism...and is a borderline socialist
We see what sounds good to you.

The Socialist States of America... Brought to you by Barack Obama...

[dude1394]

Heh...