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G-Man · 02-09-2023, 03:38 PM

As disappointed as I am that we didn't bring in some defense, I have to remind myself.

I can not remember the last time the Mavs has 2 all-star caliber players on the roster. Was it Dirk and Nash?

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-09-2023, 03:40 PM

lol and we pissed off Wood.

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@Chriswood_5
Got to watch y?all disrespect like I haven?t been efficiently HOOPING all year .. using it as motivation

Melonhead · 02-09-2023, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

lol and we pissed off Wood.

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@Chriswood_5
Got to watch y?all disrespect like I haven?t been efficiently HOOPING all year .. using it as motivation

Cuban cant get out of his own way.

Amarelooms · 02-09-2023, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

lol and we pissed off Wood.

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@Chriswood_5
Got to watch y?all disrespect like I haven?t been efficiently HOOPING all year .. using it as motivation

Cuban needs go or whoever so stupid - now he gonna walk for nothing

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

lol and we pissed off Wood.

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@Chriswood_5
Got to watch y?all disrespect like I haven?t been efficiently HOOPING all year .. using it as motivation

Obviously wouldn't give him the contract he wanted, as we've been stating here many times.

BPo001 · 02-09-2023, 03:55 PM

We blame Cuban for not making any more moves, but isn?t it Nico?s job? I?m not defending Cuban because I?m kinda over his shit too, but I feel like it might be unfair to solely blame him here.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-09-2023, 03:56 PM

Reggie Jackson to be bought out. So that naturally means Lakers or Suns lol.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

We blame Cuban for not making any more moves, but isn?t it Nico?s job? I?m not defending Cuban because I?m kinda over his shit too, but I feel like it might be unfair to solely blame him here.

You've been following the Mavs long enough to know that the final signature is always Cuban. Did you forget when Donnie wanted to draft Giannis but Cuban said no and he traded down to save $250k to try to get Dwight Howard? That's just one example. Cuban is more like Jerry Jones than an owner that just sits back and let's the GM do their job.

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

We blame Cuban for not making any more moves, but isn?t it Nico?s job? I?m not defending Cuban because I?m kinda over his shit too, but I feel like it might be unfair to solely blame him here.

Logic. What is it good for?

It's on Nico, but it's also on our situation.

We are down 2023 and 2029 picks. Can only trade 2025 if we unprotect the 2023 Knicks pick. It looks like an obvious choice because why not upgrade their asset, but the Mavs are highly unlikely to generate a top-10 pick this year so allowing the pick to become unprotected would help us and to nothing for them.

Wood is expiring but no one gave him any value so he'd basically be neutral value.

THJ was viewed as a negative asset with his poor defense/play and huge contract.

About the only thing we had to trade was second-round picks and we're already down three so we couldnt do the five that got some deals done.

OR we trade Green/Hardy and I'm glad we didnt.

Some of this is on Cuban. Some on Nico. A lot of it was just impossible.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 04:06 PM

Dallas Mourning News: Mavs? introduction of new GM, coach made one thing clear: Mark Cuban is still in charge around here
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/ma...e-around-here/

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Logic. What is it good for?

Does Nico make the final call?

?No,? Cuban said, smiling. ?I always do, because it?s a lot of money.?

Meet the new boss.

Same as the old boss.

This board fights hard to defend Mark Cuban and I'm not sure why.

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

Does Nico make the final call?

?No,? Cuban said, smiling. ?I always do, because it?s a lot of money.?

Meet the new boss.

Same as the old boss.

This board fights hard to defend Mark Cuban and I'm not sure why.

Because he owns and employs them?

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 04:15 PM

It's on Nico, but it's also on our situation.

We are down 2023 and 2029 picks. Can only trade 2025 if we unprotect the 2023 Knicks pick. It looks like an obvious choice because why not upgrade their asset, but the Mavs are highly unlikely to generate a top-10 pick this year so allowing the pick to become unprotected would help us and to nothing for them.

Wood is expiring but no one gave him any value so he'd basically be neutral value.

THJ was viewed as a negative asset with his poor defense/play and huge contract.

About the only thing we had to trade was second-round picks and we're already down three so we couldnt do the five that got some deals done.

OR we trade Green/Hardy and I'm glad we didnt.

Some of this is on Cuban. Some on Nico. A lot of it was just impossible.

BPo001 · 02-09-2023, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

You've been following the Mavs long enough to know that the final signature is always Cuban. Did you forget when Donnie wanted to draft Giannis but Cuban said no and he traded down to save $250k to try to get Dwight Howard? That's just one example. Cuban is more like Jerry Jones than an owner that just sits back and let's the GM do their job.

Sure, but I assume it?s Nico?s job to find the deals and present them to Cuban. Whether Nico had deals lined up and Cuban said ?no? we may never know. Again I?m not defending Cuban here. I?m far from his biggest fan. He wasted most of Dirks career, and so far it looks like more of the same with Luka.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Because he owns and employs them?

Exactly, and he flatout admits he's the one who makes the final decision. So we don't know if Nico said for example let's get Mo Bamba and Cuban said no, it's up to Cuban. So why are we defending him?

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Sure, but I assume it?s Nico?s job to find the deals and present them to Cuban. Whether Nico had deals lined up and Cuban said ?no? we may never know. Again I?m not defending Cuban here. I?m far from his biggest fan. He wasted most of Dirks career, and so far it looks like more of the same with Luka.

Yeah none of us know what happened. But I know Cuban was here a long time before Nico was, and nothing's really changed. If Nico sat on his ass and didn't make any calls that's on Nico. But that doesn't seem logical to me as he has a boss that is supposed to make sure he's doing his job. I think we all know that Plan Powder was a Cuban creation and not Donnie, and that was an epic failure.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 04:26 PM

Just think if the GM Donnie that Cuban fired didn't draft Dirk and Luka, who he personally scouted both. We'd still be the Dallas Mavericks from the 90s. Bottom tier team.

BPo001 · 02-09-2023, 04:34 PM

Ibaka getting waived by the Pacers.

purplefrog · 02-09-2023, 04:43 PM

Dedmon being waived. Rumors Terrence Ross will be waived.

Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
about 5 minutes ago
The San Antonio Spurs are waiving center Dewayne Dedmon, freeing him to join another team, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

jleefilled · 02-09-2023, 04:43 PM

Probably a stupid question, but is it already too late for Wood to sign a new contract? Do we have wait until the offseason to see if he re-signs?

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-09-2023, 04:43 PM

I like Ibaka and Jackson. I'd try for both.

Grady Wilson · 02-09-2023, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

Pat Bev is being bought out, so the Magic only gained a 2nd round pick for Bamba. We probably could have gotten him for Powell + 2nd.

Let me get this straight...you're upset because the Mavs didn't trade for a guy that has almost identical stats to Powell and gets to the FT line even less than Powell. He also tends to miss several games each year. He's already missed several games this year and is currently serving a four game suspension. What exactly am I missing that has you so bothered????????????

tap2390 · 02-09-2023, 05:06 PM

Ibaka, Goga, Ross, Pat Bev, Jackson.... would take any of them.

My order is:

1) Pat Bev

2) Goga

3) Ross

4) Jackson

5) Ibaka

tap2390 · 02-09-2023, 05:09 PM

Count me among those who think the criticism is overblown.

1) We have limited assets and prices were high.

2) We swung for Kyrie mf'in Irving. The rest is gravy.

3) We have Maxi and Luka coming back.

4) We've seen that the young guys (Hardy, Lawson, Silva, Wright) can at least pick up spot minutes.

5) Pinson and McGee are maybe actually playable?

I understand we need a big, I think we have enough to make a run standing pat.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady Wilson

Let me get this straight...you're upset because the Mavs didn't trade for a guy that has almost identical stats to Powell and gets to the FT line even less than Powell. He also tends to miss several games each year. He's already missed several games this year and is currently serving a four game suspension. What exactly am I missing that has you so bothered????????????

Stats don't show defense.

Melonhead · 02-09-2023, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Ibaka, Goga, Ross, Pat Bev, Jackson.... would take any of them.

My order is:

1) Pat Bev

2) Goga

3) Ross

4) Jackson

5) Ibaka

Beverly is absolute trash as a player. Watch a lot of laker games and he has no business being on the floor. Maybe kick tires on Ibaka hopefully some more buy outs

purplefrog · 02-09-2023, 05:28 PM

Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers
about 17 minutes ago
The #Sixers came close to trading Matisse Thybulle to the #Mavs, according to sources. One source said that deal was 95% completed. The only holdup was the Sixers? insistence on receiving a 1st-rounder as part of the package. So Dallas balked. inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-?

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Count me among those who think the criticism is overblown.

1) We have limited assets and prices were high.

2) We swung for Kyrie mf'in Irving. The rest is gravy.

3) We have Maxi and Luka coming back.

4) We've seen that the young guys (Hardy, Lawson, Silva, Wright) can at least pick up spot minutes.

5) Pinson and McGee are maybe actually playable?

I understand we need a big, I think we have enough to make a run standing pat.

This is the correct take. We just didn?t have the assets. No firsts. Few seconds. No one wanted Wood or THJ.

It?s not to say it?s not disappointing. Emotionally, I?m a little sad we couldn?t nab Poeltl. He?d be absolutely perfect here but without a tradable FRP, we weren?t going to get it done without trading Green and Hardy and maybe not even then. I?m glad we have some good young guys.

Nerlens/Ibaka might be decent. Kleber won th? Utah s?ries with his shooting. McGee can be decent.

Green can defend SGs and SFs. Gonna miss DFS? ability to guard PFs, but Kleber has been okay defending PFs and DFS af 6?7? lacked elite length and height to guard. Maybe Morris can provide some PF defense.

Melonhead · 02-09-2023, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers
about 17 minutes ago
The #Sixers came close to trading Matisse Thybulle to the #Mavs, according to sources. One source said that deal was 95% completed. The only holdup was the Sixers? insistence on receiving a 1st-rounder as part of the package. So Dallas balked. inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-?

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Dallas41 · 02-09-2023, 05:31 PM

We complained about Powell and kleber in last years playoffs getting owned on the boards

Nico himself admitted we had to improve at center

They traded for Mcgee but it appears that failed so far

So basically they are willing to roll into the playoffs once again prepared to go with Powell and kleber

I fully expect that tandem to once again get destroyed on the boards and I guarantee you if we lose a playoff series it will because of our lack of rebounding and rim protection once again

For crying out loud they made Looney like a all star ladt year

Now you got the lakers, Clippers and nuggets all upgraded their center depth while Dallas sticks with their same exact shit from year ago

I hope Wood or Mcgee figures shit out but even then I don't trust kidd to bench Powell ass

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Beverly is absolute trash as a player. Watch a lot of laker games and he has no business being on the floor. Maybe kick tires on Ibaka hopefully some more buy outs

Beverly is absolute trash at running an offense.

We don?t need him to run an offense. Kyrie and/or Luka will do that.

We need Pat Bev to shut down guards and hit open shots. He can do that.

Amarelooms · 02-09-2023, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers
about 17 minutes ago
The #Sixers came close to trading Matisse Thybulle to the #Mavs, according to sources. One source said that deal was 95% completed. The only holdup was the Sixers? insistence on receiving a 1st-rounder as part of the package. So Dallas balked. inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-?

No 1st. Mfers

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers
about 17 minutes ago
The #Sixers came close to trading Matisse Thybulle to the #Mavs, according to sources. One source said that deal was 95% completed. The only holdup was the Sixers? insistence on receiving a 1st-rounder as part of the package. So Dallas balked. inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-?

Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don?t make.

A FRP for him? He?s worth a SRP? maybe two if you?re desperate.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers
about 17 minutes ago
The #Sixers came close to trading Matisse Thybulle to the #Mavs, according to sources. One source said that deal was 95% completed. The only holdup was the Sixers? insistence on receiving a 1st-rounder as part of the package. So Dallas balked. inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-?

So they wanted a 1st round pick from us, but ended up trading him for not a first round pick? See this kinda bs is not the Mavs fault, but makes me wonder why teams want to drive a hard bargin on us.

JustJay · 02-09-2023, 05:40 PM

Oh well what's done is done, maybe we can be active in the buyout market. If not I'll root for my team either way. Just think it's obvious we need defensive help.

Melonhead · 02-09-2023, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Beverly is absolute trash at running an offense.

We don?t need him to run an offense. Kyrie and/or Luka will do that.

We need Pat Bev to shut down guards and hit open shots. He can do that.

No he cannot do that at all. Just watch his games from this season.

EricaLubarsky · 02-09-2023, 05:44 PM

We got one of the top two players in the TDL? and the younger and healthier of the two

And it cost us 1/4 the FRPs and barely any talent by comparison.

Suns have a crazy talented top five but their stars are old and injury prone and they lost a TON of defense with Bridges, Johnson, and Crowder.

I?m hyped.

BPo001 · 02-09-2023, 05:49 PM

I?m not upset that we didn?t give up a 1st for Thybulle. I wonder what the deal was they had in place though.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-09-2023, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers
about 17 minutes ago
The #Sixers came close to trading Matisse Thybulle to the #Mavs, according to sources. One source said that deal was 95% completed. The only holdup was the Sixers? insistence on receiving a 1st-rounder as part of the package. So Dallas balked. inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-?

lol the "only" holdup. No way I'm giving up a first for Thybulle.

BPo001 · 02-09-2023, 05:50 PM

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