The official vote your mavs into the All-Star Game Thread

[Nowitzkizer]

Originally Posted by BPo001

i just saw on TNT that Bruce Bowen was third in voting for West fowards? That cant be right... How can Dirk NOT make the all star game?

Do you know how All-Star voting works? Fan voting only gets in the starters.

[Windmill360]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Yeah that's weird...You'd think people in SA would be putting more effort into their other pro sports teams instead of just the spurs.

Oh, that's right...

Yea but that's 1,017,319 votes in a little over two weeks....The population of SA is roughly 1,328,984 people. That would mean that nearly all of them would have to be voting EVERY day until the deadline, and we know there are hardly any SA fans outside of SA and the metroplex area...


cp3 got 1,266,909 (Total: 2,134,798) votes to beat out McLady who only managed 716,664 more votes at the end of the ballot(Total: 1,678,516). The NBA wouldn't stand for McLady being a starter.

[LonghornDub]

That Bowen thing makes no sense, at all. That's completely ridiculous.

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by Windmill360

Yea but that's 1,017,319 votes in a little over two weeks....The population of SA is roughly 1,328,984 people. That would mean that nearly all of them would have to be voting EVERY day until the deadline, and we know there are hardly any SA fans outside of SA and the metroplex area...


cp3 got 1,266,909 (Total: 2,134,798) votes to beat out McLady who only managed 716,664 more votes at the end of the ballot(Total: 1,678,516). The NBA wouldn't stand for McLady being a starter.

Crap.. that means Roy is a shoe-in

[EricaLubarsky]

Something is wrong when Bruce "2.8ppg, 1.9rpg on 20 mpg" Bowen gets 200k more votes than Dirk

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Something is wrong when Bruce "2.8ppg, 1.9rpg on 20 mpg" Bowen gets 200k more votes than Dirk

The all-star voting really is a joke.

[basketballgirl25]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

The all-star voting really is a joke.

it's not a joke really, All-Star game is mostly about the players being popular among fans seems that way for years and still is

[Rick41]

The idiocracy of fan voting only affects the starting positions. Reserves are picked by coaches and such, therefore i'm more than positive Dirk will get a spot over Bowen. If that doesn't happen, i will bomb the NBA headquarters.

[TNT]

2009 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING
THE FINAL RESULTS OF BALLOTING IN THE WESTERN CONFERENCE FOR THE 2009 NBA ALL-STAR GAME IN PHOENIX.

Forwards
Player Votes
Tim Duncan (SA) 2,578,168
Amare Stoudemire (Pho) 1,460,429
Bruce Bowen (SA) 1,392,398
Ron Artest (Hou) 1,362,565
Carmelo Anthony (Den) 1,337,519
Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 1,107,926
Pau Gasol (LAL) 948,301
Shane Battier (Hou) 694,112
LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 497,550
Luis Scola (Hou) 405,851
Josh Howard (Dal) 298,810

Guards
Player Votes
Kobe Bryant (LAL) 2,805,397
Chris Paul (NO) 2,134,798
Tracy McGrady (Hou) 1,678,516
Manu Ginobili (SA) 1,642,350
Tony Parker (SA) 1,084,361
Steve Nash (Pho) 677,211
Jamal Crawford (GS) 665,038
Rafer Alston (Hou) 550,199
Jason Kidd (Dal) 477,792
Brandon Roy (Por) 468,688
Chauncey Billups (Den) 466,073.

Centers
Player Votes
Yao Ming (Hou) 2,532,958
Shaquille ONeal (Pho) 1,850,018
Andrew Bynum (LAL) 549,131
Mehmet Okur (Utah) 437,106
Greg Oden (Por) 359,318
Andris Biedrins (GS) 357,984
Al Jefferson (Minn) 310,643
Tyson Chandler (NO) 242,356
Chris Kaman (LAC) 231,928
Marcus Camby (LAC) 158,491
Nick Collison (OKC) 154,309

2009 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING
THE FINAL RESULTS OF BALLOTING IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE FOR THE 2009 NBA ALL-STAR GAME IN PHOENIX.

Forwards
Player Votes
LeBron James (Clev) 2,940,823
Kevin Garnett (Bos) 2,066,833
Yi Jianlian (NJ) 1,813,829
Paul Pierce (Bos) 1,238,763
Chris Bosh (Tor) 1,101,052
Hedo Turkoglu (Orl) 632,051
Shawn Marion (Mia) 405,573
Danny Granger (Ind) 365,810
Josh Smith (Atl) 321,129
Tayshaun Prince (Det) 274,540
Michael Beasley (Mia) 273,471

Guards
Player Votes
Dwyane Wade (Mia) 2,741,413
Allen Iverson (Det) 1,804,649
Vince Carter (NJ) 1,239,613
Devin Harris (NJ) 1,182,406
Luke Ridnour (Mil) 1,039,902
Ray Allen (Bos) 851,205
Gilbert Arenas (Wash) 635,540
Derrick Rose (Chi) 474,384
Jose Calderon (Tor) 445,584
Joe Johnson (Atl) 420,210
Jameer Nelson (Orl) 354,773

Centers
Player Votes
Dwight Howard (Orl) 3,150,181
Kendrick Perkins (Bos) 621,709
Rasheed Wallace (Det) 402,991
Samuel Dalembert (Phi) 396,119
Andrew Bogut (Mil) 357,997
Jermaine ONeal (Tor) 342,723
Al Horford (Atl) 323,302
Brendan Haywood (Wash) 291,490
Ben Wallace (Clev) 263,862
Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Cle) 219,697
Emeka Okafor (Char) 212,539

[alby]

Bruce and Yi shoulda been starting

[eyedentifyme]

If the West had Bruce and Ron in the starting lineup, the West would probably destroy the East with elbowing, kneeing, hip bumping , and planting feet under the opposing playing's feet before landing. I could see how fans would have wanted to vote for this.

[eyedentifyme]

As far as voting for Yi to the All-Star game, the rules are that fans can vote who they want to see starting the game, if they want Yi, then so be it. It's doesn't mean he has to play 30 min in the game. Good players get left off the All-Star Game every year. Also remember all those times Steve Francis got voted in to start the All-Star game when he didn't deserve it.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by eyedentifyme

As far as voting for Yi to the All-Star game, the rules are that fans can vote who they want to see starting the game, if they want Yi, then so be it. It's doesn't mean he has to play 30 min in the game. Good players get left off the All-Star Game every year. Also remember all those times Steve Francis got voted in when he didn't deserve it.

We don't really need a recitation of what the rules are. The entire point is that the rules are completely ridiculous and should be changed.

[eyedentifyme]

The rules are fine. It creates parody, equality for anyone to make the All-Star game not just the people that have more talent than everyone else(aka Lebron) if fans take a liking to their style of the way they play the game, and it's what we want to see not the coaches or GMs. What I do think is that the NBA should force players to play in the Slam dunk contest or they would be suspended for 5 games and fined a hefty amount if they choose not to do so; fans should also decide who they want to see in the Slam dunk contest. If that's the case we would see Kobe, Lebron, Stoudemire, Marion, D-Wade, Vince, Dwight Howard, Gerald Green, Jamario Moon, Nate Robinson, Melo, and J-Rich in the same contest. Also make the All-Star game count for the winning side getting home field advantage in the Finals like they do in Major League Baseball, it will make it more exciting as well; this would throw records out the window for the Finals between the final Eastern and Western conference teams. The slam-dunk exception for not participating would be due to injuries not cleared by medical doctors and family emergencies of course.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by eyedentifyme

The rules are fine. It creates parody, equality for anyone to make the All-Star game not just the people that have more talent than everyone else(aka Lebron) if fans take a liking to their style of the way they play the game, and it's what we want to see not the coaches or GMs.

No, the rules are not fine. The rules result in giving an entirely unfair advantage to the handful of Chinese players, among other issues. Yi Jianlian almost making the starting lineup has absolutely nothing to do with "people liking his style of play." He was almost voted in because he's from a country whose population comprises over 1/6th of the entire earth. He could average 5 ppg and play basketball like a pigeon with down syndrome and he'd still get an incredible amount of votes.

I find it interesting that you wrote that the rules provide "parody." Clearly, you meant "parity," but I think what you said is actually more accurate. The rules parodize decent all-star selection systems and give us hilarious results year after year. Parody indeed.

And, as for parity, what makes you think there should be parity in an all-star game? That's exactly the opposite of what an all-star game is about. There shouldn't be any parity whatsoever--it should be the very best players.

[jthig32]

I was going to come up with some joke about the use of "parody" but Dub did a much better job than I would have.

[Rick41]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

No, the rules are not fine. The rules result in giving an entirely unfair advantage to the handful of Chinese players, among other issues. Yi Jianlian almost making the starting lineup has absolutely nothing to do with "people liking his style of play." He was almost voted in because he's from a country whose population comprises over 1/6th of the entire earth. He could average 5 ppg and play basketball like a pigeon with down syndrome and he'd still get an incredible amount of votes.

I find it interesting that you wrote that the rules provide "parody." Clearly, you meant "parity," but I think what you said is actually more accurate. The rules parodize decent all-star selection systems and give us hilarious results year after year. Parody indeed.

And, as for parity, what makes you think there should be parity in an all-star game? That's exactly the opposite of what an all-star game is about. There shouldn't be any parity whatsoever--it should be the very best players.

Pwned.

[Dim499]

This vote is an outrage!

[alby]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

No, the rules are not fine. The rules result in giving an entirely unfair advantage to the handful of Chinese players, among other issues. Yi Jianlian almost making the starting lineup has absolutely nothing to do with "people liking his style of play." He was almost voted in because he's from a country whose population comprises over 1/6th of the entire earth. He could average 5 ppg and play basketball like a pigeon with down syndrome and he'd still get an incredible amount of votes.

I find it interesting that you wrote that the rules provide "parody." Clearly, you meant "parity," but I think what you said is actually more accurate. The rules parodize decent all-star selection systems and give us hilarious results year after year. Parody indeed.

And, as for parity, what makes you think there should be parity in an all-star game? That's exactly the opposite of what an all-star game is about. There shouldn't be any parity whatsoever--it should be the very best players.

you have just been lawyered!

[Dirkadirkastan]

Is "eyedentifyme" doing a bit with a second screen name?

[eyedentifyme]

Okay I was wrong with the word use. Thanks for correcting me. We've all made mistakes before, nobody is perfect. I'm a man that can take multiple jabs without crying about it.

[dude1394]

IMO this is another case of Stern shouting out a big FU to his paying customers. You know the ones who come to the arenas..the place where his league IS.

So he' more than willing to let his actual customers wished count for much less than a country that has all of 2 players in his league.

A big FU back stern.

[basketballgirl25]

Originally Posted by dude1394

IMO this is another case of Stern shouting out a big FU to his paying customers. You know the ones who come to the arenas..the place where his league IS.

So he' more than willing to let his actual customers wished count for much less than a country that has all of 2 players in his league.

A big FU back stern.

yeah, maybe they should only have one vote for person that things will be better

[fluid.forty.one]

The Nets are 20-26 now. I'm not sure that a 21ppg player with that team record will make it into the all-star game.

[Kidd Karma]

Reserves:
Pau, Dirk, David West, Shaq, Billups, Roy, Parker

East
Granger, Pierce, Bosh, Lewis, Nelson, Harris, Joe Johnson

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

[BGMaverick9]

Yay....more "I told you so" talk about Harris.

That's a bummer for Jet, I really hoped he would've found a way to make the roster. He was probably battling with Billups and Parker for those last two spots.

[Kidd Karma]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

More specific link.

[jthig32]

David West?

Really?

[BGMaverick9]

Nash's All-Star run has been "splintered."

[alby]

Cleveland should have two players. Mo got snubbed, especially since Orlando got three.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by jthig32

David West?

Really?

I wonder what the lockerroom interaction would be like between him and Dirk.

[BGMaverick9]

With the All-Star game being a game for the guards...why the heck does the West have 4 C/PFs for reserves? You already have Yao, Duncan and Amare...

[Underdog]

Is anyone really surprised with the results?

(I mean, aside from Yi getting snubbed...)

[Dim499]

Hey how about Kidd not making it? Not even close. He must have made it 5-6 times in a row. Was a starter last year.

Is Dirk the black hole where PG stats go to die? Devin is an all-star this year. Add to that Nash not making the all-star team his last year in Dallas, right before winning two MVPs. ^^

[Windmill360]

I'm surprised with West making it in, and two other "Magics" making it in.

[fluid.forty.one]

Mo Williams should be an all-star.

[Zki41]

There were like 10 other people in the West more qualified than David West this year for that last spot.

Terry
Jefferson
Anthony (pending injury)
Durant
Williams
Millsap

Kidd, Nash, McGrady, and Bynum probably being the more controversial ones but I wouldn't have been surprised to see them make it.

[AxdemxO]

Has anyone noticed that Carter is NOT there??? WTF

I cant say Harris/Lewis didnt deserve it, but mann leaving Carter, Allen, and Rondo off is just crazy one of those 3 should have been there.


But it happens every year. I think this year though wer seeing player that we have really like for the last 5-10 years not make it and its more of a shock to us, like Carter. Soon Dirk wont be there either, but hayy wer going for the BIG one : )

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Mo Williams should be an all-star.

Over Harris? Nelson has better numbers across the board.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by Dim499

Hey how about Kidd not making it? Not even close. He must have made it 5-6 times in a row. Was a starter last year.

Is Dirk the black hole where PG stats go to die? Devin is an all-star this year. Add to that Nash not making the all-star team his last year in Dallas, right before winning two MVPs. ^^

Would think Dirk would be a PG assist boost, ala Malone-Stockton. Plus I think Kidd has deferred alot since getting to Dallas. When your scoring isn't double digits, difficult to get on the roster. I would think Williams would be first alternate, Nash 2nd and then Kidd....based on stats solely.