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MavKikiNYC · 01-02-2005, 10:43 AM

STEPH: KIDD & I ARE LOSERS

By MARC BERMAN

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January 2, 2005 -- KNICK NOTES

Stephon Marbury disputes that Jason Kidd should be considered superior to him, feeling Kidd is no more a winner than he is because neither has won an NBA championship.

After reiterating his claim that he's the NBA's best point guard, Marbury said he believes if you don't have a ring, you can't be called a winner. Kidd has been to two NBA Finals with the Nets; Marbury has not been out of the first round of the playoffs.

"He's just like me," Marbury said of Kidd at yesterday's morning shootaround before the Nets beat the Knicks, 93-87. "He's a loser. We're both losers. Neither of us have won a championship. Tim Duncan is a winner. Kevin Garnett is a loser just like me. Charles Barkley is a loser just like me. [TNT partner] Kenny Smith is a winner.

"Magic [Johnson], Michael Jordan, [Larry] Bird, those guys are winners. Kobe [Bryant] and Shaquille [O'Neal] are winners. Isiah Thomas is a winner. Until you win championships, we're just like everyone else. It doesn't matter how far you get in the playoffs. It doesn't matter if you get to the Finals. You lost."

Marbury didn't back down from his New Year's boast that he considers himself the "best point guard in basketball."

"I'm just saying reality and answered a question," Marbury said. "I already know I'm the best point guard. It's like asking if it's raining outside. You're going to tell them it's raining."

Lenny Wilkens said, "I don't want to get caught in this. He has great confidence in who he is. That's wonderful. Other than that, I have no comments."

Marbury was behind four other point guards in the Eastern Conference All-Star voting: Allen Iverson, Dwyane Wade, Steve Francis and Kidd. Marbury has a chance of being named to the All-Star team as a reserve.

MavKikiNYC · 01-02-2005, 10:43 AM

STEPH: KIDD & I ARE LOSERS

By MARC BERMAN

Email Archives
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January 2, 2005 -- KNICK NOTES

Stephon Marbury disputes that Jason Kidd should be considered superior to him, feeling Kidd is no more a winner than he is because neither has won an NBA championship.

After reiterating his claim that he's the NBA's best point guard, Marbury said he believes if you don't have a ring, you can't be called a winner. Kidd has been to two NBA Finals with the Nets; Marbury has not been out of the first round of the playoffs.

"He's just like me," Marbury said of Kidd at yesterday's morning shootaround before the Nets beat the Knicks, 93-87. "He's a loser. We're both losers. Neither of us have won a championship. Tim Duncan is a winner. Kevin Garnett is a loser just like me. Charles Barkley is a loser just like me. [TNT partner] Kenny Smith is a winner.

"Magic [Johnson], Michael Jordan, [Larry] Bird, those guys are winners. Kobe [Bryant] and Shaquille [O'Neal] are winners. Isiah Thomas is a winner. Until you win championships, we're just like everyone else. It doesn't matter how far you get in the playoffs. It doesn't matter if you get to the Finals. You lost."

Marbury didn't back down from his New Year's boast that he considers himself the "best point guard in basketball."

"I'm just saying reality and answered a question," Marbury said. "I already know I'm the best point guard. It's like asking if it's raining outside. You're going to tell them it's raining."

Lenny Wilkens said, "I don't want to get caught in this. He has great confidence in who he is. That's wonderful. Other than that, I have no comments."

Marbury was behind four other point guards in the Eastern Conference All-Star voting: Allen Iverson, Dwyane Wade, Steve Francis and Kidd. Marbury has a chance of being named to the All-Star team as a reserve.

Nash13 · 01-02-2005, 01:23 PM

As much as i hate Nash, that award will always be with Francis. There's nothing anybody can say to change that.

Nash13 · 01-02-2005, 01:23 PM

As much as i hate Nash, that award will always be with Francis. There's nothing anybody can say to change that.

Nash13 · 01-02-2005, 01:23 PM

Double Post

Nash13 · 01-02-2005, 01:23 PM

Double Post

seal614 · 01-02-2005, 01:29 PM

"starbury" hands down.

seal614 · 01-02-2005, 01:29 PM

"starbury" hands down.

EricaLubarsky · 01-02-2005, 01:32 PM

Marbury is leading by 3 but J-Will and Francis are a close second with two a piece.

EricaLubarsky · 01-02-2005, 01:32 PM

Marbury is leading by 3 but J-Will and Francis are a close second with two a piece.

fin4life · 01-02-2005, 03:42 PM

I guess I am the only person here who think that Damon Staudimire is an idiot... however I voted before i read the article, it might be Marbury.

fin4life · 01-02-2005, 03:42 PM

I guess I am the only person here who think that Damon Staudimire is an idiot... however I voted before i read the article, it might be Marbury.

Arne · 01-02-2005, 04:10 PM

Where's Baron Davis?

Arne · 01-02-2005, 04:10 PM

Where's Baron Davis?

SaltwaterChaffy · 01-02-2005, 04:16 PM

Idiot in real life vs. Idiot on the basketball court are two completely different things.

Francis can be quite dumb on the court.

But man, Damon has screwed up way too many times off the court to not be considered a complete moron.

SaltwaterChaffy · 01-02-2005, 04:16 PM

Idiot in real life vs. Idiot on the basketball court are two completely different things.

Francis can be quite dumb on the court.

But man, Damon has screwed up way too many times off the court to not be considered a complete moron.

EricaLubarsky · 01-02-2005, 04:22 PM

important distinction. I hadnt even thought of off-court moron. Luckily I voted for someone who is a little of both.

Steve Nash has two votes? He may be a geek and a backstabber, but I've never thought he was dumb. I'd say that once Jackson and Stockton retired, Nash became the smartest on-court player at the 1 guard position, Kidd coming in a close second.

And yeah! Where's B-Diddy?

EricaLubarsky · 01-02-2005, 04:22 PM

important distinction. I hadnt even thought of off-court moron. Luckily I voted for someone who is a little of both.

Steve Nash has two votes? He may be a geek and a backstabber, but I've never thought he was dumb. I'd say that once Jackson and Stockton retired, Nash became the smartest on-court player at the 1 guard position, Kidd coming in a close second.

And yeah! Where's B-Diddy?

birdsanctuary · 01-03-2005, 06:57 PM

Terrell Owens?

birdsanctuary · 01-03-2005, 06:57 PM

Terrell Owens?

kg_veteran · 01-03-2005, 11:35 PM

I agree with Marbury about one thing. Winning a title is what makes you a winner.

bernardos70 · 01-04-2005, 10:42 AM

I almost robotically voted on Steve Francis before reading the article. I haven't seen Marbury being an idiot, which is surprising by how hated he is around the league, apparently. I did see his interview before the PHX- SA first round matchup of 2 years ago, when he said "To beat SA we have to go up 3 levels, then we have to go up 3 more levels. We have to step up the defense and then go up 3 more levels and then 3 levels after that......" Besides that, nothing else. I tend to agree with what he said there. Until you win, you're a loser.

Steve Francis is dumb.

StvNash13 · 01-04-2005, 06:30 PM

Marbury saying he's the best point guard in the league would be like K-Mart saying he's the best power forward. What a douche.