Letting Nash Go a Mistake or the Right Move?

[Captain Disaster]

It's way too early to tell, but what does everyone think? Don't just give a knee-jerk or emotional response. Nash seems to be doing EXTREMELY well in Phoenix; even better than he did in Dallas.

[rakesh.s]

Originally posted by: Turkey
The reason why he is doing well is because phoenix is not dallas.

can you get rid your disgusting signature? were you the same guy that had the finger coming out of the eye??

[MavsFanFinley]

can you get rid your disgusting signature?

I second that.

[Max Power]

Isn't there several threads on this subject? Why start another?

[Dirkenstien]

Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley

I second that.

A strong third.

[bernardos70]

Originally posted by: Dirkenstien

A strong third.

Turkey, I like horror movies as much you probably, but I don't like to see random shots of one when I'm reading about the Mavs. Could you please kindly change it to something less likely to make people lose their lunch?

[bloodyhell]

mistake

[bloodyhell]

cuban saved money but the team has clearly suffered.

[Azn_Baller101]

if we didn't lose nash

we'd still have the more refreshed, "better than ever" nash (very happy with the contract)

we could have traded delk and walker for a PF, a 4!! cause we'd have nash and daniels we wouldn't need terry and henderson.... SHAREEF ABDUR RAHEEM anyone??

the forston - booth trade would have been excusable, or better yet we could have gotten 1st draft picks, instead of this freak!

and josh howard, won't struggle as much as he has someone to set him up

we'd have two sharpshooters in nash and nowitzki

devin harris will learn from THE BEST

and everyone on the team should theoretically do better. (see phoenix's offense, nash made all of them look real good)


given all these... yep... bad move cubes!! very bad move!

our possible line up by february if fortson were to stay

C - Dampier/Bradley/Mbenga/ Podkolzin
PF - Abdur Rahim/Forston
SF - Nowitzki(big german shootin on the little guys!)/ (scramble of Stack, and Jho)
SG - Finley/ Scramble of (daniels/stack/ Jho)
PG - Nash/ (scramble of Harris and daniels)

[dalmations202]

No way to make that determination until after at least the 3rd year, unless one or the other of these two teams wins it all.

[vinnieponte]

mistake

[#41]

of course mistake

[Ninkobei]

We can't live in the past. Why is this even a topic? It doesn't matter if it were a mistake or not, the only pg we should be worried about right now is Harris, and maybe Terry.

[Azn_Baller101]

Originally posted by: Turkey
Am I the only dallas fan that isn't a W-O-O-O-O-S?

Trading steve nash wasn't a mistake at all. Until we learn how to play team ball and have better player movement, which doesn't seem likely under Neslon, A good pg is of no use. And by the way. Steve sucks defensively. So if you add it up, we actually gained by trading him.

wow! if only we DID TRADE him... no... we lost him for NOTHING!!

[FilthyFinMavs]

It's too early to tell but as of right now it doesn't look like a mistake. Lately when I look at the Suns boxscore I see them giving up 100+ occasionally. Last night I believe they gave up 110. That looked all too familiar for me.

[jibikao]

Originally posted by: Azn_Baller101

wow! if only we DID TRADE him... no... we lost him for NOTHING!!

Hahahaha, yeah, Nash WAS NOT traded...he just left.

As far as I can tell, this is a GOOD thing right now. I love both Steve and Dirk. They are my most favorite players in NBA. I am very happy for Nash right now 'cause he, Amare and Marion are doing an excellent job there. Nash needs athletic players to finish his assists. I remember in last playoff games, Mavs missed many easy inside shots because 1.) they weren't tall enough 2.) they are not as strong as Amare and Marion. As a Steve fan, I think this is a smart move.

As a Dirk fan, just like what Nelson said, it's time for Dirk to step up. It's time for Dirk to learn how to make great passes. It's time for Dirk to be a leader and learn the process of becoming a leader. Finely is old and Dirk will have to be the one that controls the team.

Mavs' offense is great if 1.) the other can't guard Nash 2.) the other can't play fast-pace style 3.) Mavs is shooting well. I watched quite a few Mavs games last year and I have to say that no Point Guard in the league has the ball 90% of the time when he is on the court. Nash basically is the general on the team and when he's tired or just having a bad night, the team usually fails. This is not good for a playoff team because Mavs is usually the worst in 4th quarter (that's when Nash starts to show signs of fatique). lol

Mavs has more than enough talented players right now. They just need to learn how to play as a TEAM and I am sure they'll pass the first round playoff or even 2nd round. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] That's not get greedy here...hehehehe

Overall, this is a good situation for both Steve and Dirk!

Jimmy

[sike]

old news.

[sike]

dp

[Stressboy]

Short term hurts some, long term, a great move. Harris is going to be a great player, Dirk is going to rise, Nellie needs to stopped being possessed by the ghost of Rudy Tomjanavic circa 2000 because his offense sucks right now. Just one on one ball. Need to go Princeton 50% of the time and the rest run plays for dirk, or set him up.

Stressboy

[Quetzalcoatl]

Steve, I miss you [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

[The Miles]

Good move. We can actually defend opposing PGs now. Cassell has 0 assists and 4 turnovers tonight. Once Harris' shot comes around you guys will be in as much love with the kids talent as some of us already are.

[#41]

The good thing is the possibility of them both being All Star Starters! Right now they should get most votes...

[ZueriMav]

Originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl
Steve, I miss you [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

Try here There is a higher probability to find him.

[kingrex]

Nash is going to play as well as he does for atleast 2 to 3 years more. The gamble for paying would be beyond those years.

Devin Harris is also a gamble, but the early returns look promising, and his upside is way beyond 2 to 3 years.

I love Nash, but paying him the amount of money Phoenix did for 6 years is too much IMO.

[vinnieponte]

I just have to bring this back up. Yes it was a mistake ans it shows. Nash is averaging 11 assists per game, 16 point per game. Then you look at us, still trying to recover with 1 average vet pg and a rookie trying to find himself. Then we bring in armstrong, clearly it was a mistake to let him go, the question is can we turn it around.

[DubOverdose]

Everyone knew the Mavs would suffer this season from letting Nash go. The real question is in a few years from now when Nash has YEARS left on his contract and can barely play.

[TwoDeep3]

And with Dirk taking over the scoring lead as of last night, and number 5 in rebounds, there has been a silver lining to the defection of Steve Cash.

Defense and this becoming Dirk's team and he becoming the player he can be is a positive without question.

[LRB]

Originally posted by: dalmations202
No way to make that determination until after at least the 3rd year, unless one or the other of these two teams wins it all.

I agree that it will take time to see if it was a good move. We may not get a good picture of how good or not good Harris will be until his 3rd year. Remember it took Nash quite a while to become good when he got to Dallas. I can definitely say that we are hurting now on offense from not having Nash. I also feel that we are much better defensively without Nash. IMO we would have had a better record right now if we had kept Nash because he would have provided more continutity. However the Mavs goal is not to win more games in November and December, it is to win more games in May and June. Nash looks fantastic right now. How will he look come May?

Also would Dirk have blossomed as he has this year with Nash? Maybe or maybe not. One thing is for sure, is that the Mavs are clearly Dirk's team now. And IMO that is their very best shot at winning a title because it allows them to maximize one of the most uniquely talented players ever in the NBA.

I miss Nash every time I see a bumbling effort on offense resulting in a stupid turnover. I miss him whenever I see us struggling to run or screw up a break because there is skilled PG to run it. However I don't miss Nash when I see us holding our opponents under 100 on most every night. I don't miss him when I see us holding the opponents under 42% shooting. I don't miss him when I see the ball going through Dirk more than ever.

You don't replace a superb offensive talent like Nash overnight. However I still feel the Mavs best chance at winning a championship is by replacing Nash. Time will tell, but it's much too early to make a final judgement one way or another right now.

[V2M]

Originally posted by: LRB

I agree that it will take time to see if it was a good move. We may not get a good picture of how good or not good Harris will be until his 3rd year. Remember it took Nash quite a while to become good when he got to Dallas. I can definitely say that we are hurting now on offense from not having Nash. I also feel that we are much better defensively without Nash. IMO we would have had a better record right now if we had kept Nash because he would have provided more continutity. However the Mavs goal is not to win more games in November and December, it is to win more games in May and June. Nash looks fantastic right now. How will he look come May?

Also would Dirk have blossomed as he has this year with Nash? Maybe or maybe not. One thing is for sure, is that the Mavs are clearly Dirk's team now. And IMO that is their very best shot at winning a title because it allows them to maximize one of the most uniquely talented players ever in the NBA.

I miss Nash every time I see a bumbling effort on offense resulting in a stupid turnover. I miss him whenever I see us struggling to run or screw up a break because there is skilled PG to run it. However I don't miss Nash when I see us holding our opponents under 100 on most every night. I don't miss him when I see us holding the opponents under 42% shooting. I don't miss him when I see the ball going through Dirk more than ever.

You don't replace a superb offensive talent like Nash overnight. However I still feel the Mavs best chance at winning a championship is by replacing Nash. Time will tell, but it's much too early to make a final judgement one way or another right now.

Couldn't agree more.

[dude1394]

You just have to search your honest self and decide if you think better defense on the perimeter and better defense all-the-way around will be worth it in the end. There is no doubt in my mind that our perimeter defense is better, but if we had damp AND nash...Yea, i'd rather have that.

[Razor]

right move. no way you could give nash that much money.

we will find out in 3 years.

[dirk2003]

Why didnt Cuban just tell him he is the future... blah blah blah and sign him for the big money? Then after playing well till the allstar break, trade him for someone.

I dont know why he just let him go.

[Jamisonite]

Originally posted by: Azn_Baller101
if we didn't lose nash

we'd still have the more refreshed, "better than ever" nash (very happy with the contract)

we could have traded delk and walker for a PF, a 4!! cause we'd have nash and daniels we wouldn't need terry and henderson.... SHAREEF ABDUR RAHEEM anyone??

the forston - booth trade would have been excusable, or better yet we could have gotten 1st draft picks, instead of this freak!

and josh howard, won't struggle as much as he has someone to set him up

we'd have two sharpshooters in nash and nowitzki

devin harris will learn from THE BEST

and everyone on the team should theoretically do better. (see phoenix's offense, nash made all of them look real good)


given all these... yep... bad move cubes!! very bad move!

our possible line up by february if fortson were to stay

C - Dampier/Bradley/Mbenga/ Podkolzin
PF - Abdur Rahim/Forston
SF - Nowitzki(big german shootin on the little guys!)/ (scramble of Stack, and Jho)
SG - Finley/ Scramble of (daniels/stack/ Jho)
PG - Nash/ (scramble of Harris and daniels)

You are very mistaken. If we would have signed nash we probably wouldnt have gone after Dampier and i seriously doubt portland would want walker over reef